BTRVETC-L Digest		Volume 99 : Issue 11
7 Mar 1999

Today's Topics:
	 RE: BTRVETC-L Digest V99 #10
	 Re: BTRVETC-L Digest V99 #10
	 TURNER'S of AL. & TN.
	 Ok, does anyone recognize this BURNETT?
	 Re: Ok, does anyone recognize this BURNETT?
	 re: do you recognize this Burnett??
	 RE: BTRVETC-L Digest V99 #10
	 A new hint for dates of birth
	 glendab@cmc.net
	 My VIA Line
	 RE: My VIA Line
	 Re: My VIA Line
	 Wife of Thomas Jefferson Turner
	 Re: Wife of Thomas Jefferson Turner
	 Re: Wife of Thomas Jefferson Turner
	 Thomas Jefferson Turner

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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:49:26 -0600
From: "Kevin K. Stephenson" <kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
To: <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Cc: <tdohms@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: BTRVETC-L Digest V99 #10
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Caroline--
  I'm going to write to Travis.  I don't see a direct connection yet, but
many of the California Burnett's were descended from Kentucky Burnett's,
through Peter Hardeman Burnett, 1st Governor of California.  Peter H.
Burnett's uncle was James Cunningham Burnett, my direct ancestor.  Peter, as
some of you may remember, led a wagon train to Oregon and then went to
California during the Gold Rush.
  I don't find a reference to John Courtlan (possibly Courtland?) Burnett,
or John Percival Burnett.  However, we have some Burnetts from several
lines, including the ones that went to Kentucky, who had ties to South
Carolina.  Anything's possible.
  Travis--write me and we'll compare notes!

Subject:  TRAVIS BURNETT in KANSAS...a cousin of KEVIN's?

tdohms@yahoo.com

TRAVIS JACK BURNETT

Forwarded by Caroline Burnett Cook
 <<<snip>>>>

  My name is Travis Burnett and I am currently attending Baker University,
  which is located in eastern Kansas. I have decided that it was time for
  me to trace back a little family history for myself, and thought that
  this would be a good place to start. Below I will try to chart neatly
  what little I know of my family past.

  To make it a little easier on myself I am going to start at myself to as
  far back as I currently know---which isn't far, sadly enough.

  I, Travis Jack Burnett, was born February 12, 1980 to Travis Norman
  Burnett, II and Teresa Ann Garrett. I am their only child together.

  My father, Travis Norman Burnett, II, was born to Travis Norman Burnett
  and Frances Carlene Grace on October 17, 1956.

  My grandfather, Travis Norman Burnett, was born to John Percival Burnett
  and Mamie Bernice Taylor on date unknown, 1933.

  My great-grandfather, John Percival Burnett, was born to John Courtlan
  (sp?) Burnett and Mattie [middle?] Travis on date unknown, 1906.

  To my knowledge it was my great-grandfathers dad, John Courtlan (sp?)
  Burnett and what family he had then, were the first Burnett's of mine to
  migrate to America. I am right now awaiting information from my
  great-grandfather, John Percival Burnett, on whether this is correct or
  not, however.

  I am also under the impression that they first settled in South Carolina
  before traveling west and settling in either Montana or Wyoming for a
  while, before finally settling down for good in the Fresno, California
  area somewhere between 1915 and 1920. One other fact which would be
  helpful is that in my Burnett heritage line there were no women born for
  eleven generations! I found this to be very interesting. No women were
  born until my great-grandfather's generation when three of his four
  brothers, named Harvey, Bill, Travis (died at age 9), John (?), birthed
  only women.

  This is everything that I know about my Burnett heritage. Should there
  be anyone that has any useful information to me, I would greatly
  appreciate it.

  Thank You,
  Travis Jack Burnett
  e-mail: tdohms@yahoo.com
  ICQ# 8217873

  >>

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:32:56 EST
From: CarBurCo@aol.com
To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org
Cc: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: BTRVETC-L Digest V99 #10
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Kevin,

  I am interested in what you said about PETER HARDEMAN BURNETT...I do vaguely
remember your mentioning the connection. My interest was peaked because I
found a note among my grandmother's notes on Granddad's Burnett ancestors. She
had info as far back as his grandfather (my great great grandfather)  COL
JOSEPH BOLING BURNETT (1800-1848) Dinwiddie County, Va - Williamson County,
Tn.(moved to Tennessee in 1815)
           Among the notes she had on JOSEPH was a note written on the same
sheet as a description of his tombstone at the old BURNETT cemetary at the
site of their old family home  (2 miles south of Burwood on Carter's Creek
Pike in Williamson County, Tennessee.) The note she wrote  said that PETER
HARDEMAN BURNETT the governor of California was a cousin of some sort....but
there was no documentation mentioned. Maybe it is a very distant tie.

  Do you know if your line is connected with these Va>Middle Tennessee
Burnetts?

Thanks for all your good work,

Caroline

In a message dated 3/3/99 8:58:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu writes:

<< 
 Caroline--
   I'm going to write to Travis.  I don't see a direct connection yet, but
 many of the California Burnett's were descended from Kentucky Burnett's,
 through Peter Hardeman Burnett, 1st Governor of California.  Peter H.
 Burnett's uncle was James Cunningham Burnett, my direct ancestor.  Peter, as
 some of you may remember, led a wagon train to Oregon and then went to
 California during the Gold Rush.
   I don't find a reference to John Courtlan (possibly Courtland?) Burnett,
 or John Percival Burnett.  However, we have some Burnetts from several
 lines, including the ones that went to Kentucky, who had ties to South
 Carolina.  Anything's possible.
   Travis--write me and we'll compare notes! >>

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:25:44 -0500 (EST)
From: gailturner@webtv.net (gail barnfather)
To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org
Subject: TURNER'S of AL. & TN.
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HI Group
This Turner newbie in Florida was thrilled to find your list.-------Boy
do I need help___
I found my Turner family in North Alabama from 1880 to present.  I have
only been able to progress as far as my G G Grandfather Zachariah B.
Turner (the B may stand for Bennett or Burnett) b. 1821 Bedford Co. TN.
who m. Nancy Jane Trammell also b. Bedford Co. TN.  They had 13 children
according to Nancy Jane but have ony accounted for 9 so far and they are
--Mary Jane Turner b. 1843--Sarah Elizabeth--William L. born 1848--James
R.--Andrew J.--Zachariah B. Jr.--Martha B.--Harvey Franklin b. 1862 and
John J.   Is anyone in the group working on the TN. Turner's.  Any help
with this line would be gratefully appreciated---Gail


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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 10:25:17 -0500
From: Terri Black <black@globe.com>
To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org
Subject: Ok, does anyone recognize this BURNETT?
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Please, no one take offense about this one, but I seemed to remember that
this was one of the lists that I subscribe to that has a sense of humor (&
no,
I did not change her name to fit the list...this was the story as I got
it)....

> > Subject:  Attempted Murder
> > > > > > >WANTED FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER (the actual AP headline)
> > >
> > >Linda Burnett, 23, a resident of San Diego, was visiting her
> > >inlaws, and while there went to a nearby supermarket to pick
> > >up some groceries. Several people noticed her sitting in her
> > >car with the windows rolled up and with her eyes closed, with
> > >both hands behind the back of her head. One customer who had
> > >been at the store for a while became concerned and walked
> > >over to the car. He noticed that Linda's eyes were now open,
> > >and she looked very strange.
> > >
> > >He asked her if she was okay, and Linda replied that she'd
> > >been shot in the back of the head, and had been holding her
> > >brains in for over an hour.  The man called the paramedics,
> > >who broke into the car because the doors were locked and Linda
> > >refused to remove her hands from her head. When they finally
> > >got in, they found that Linda had a wad of bread dough on the
> > >back of her head. A Pillsbury biscuit canister had exploded
> > >from the heat, making a loud noise that sounded like a gunshot,
> > >and the wad of dough hit her in the back of her head. When she
> > >reached back to find out what it was, she felt the dough and
> > >thought it was her brains. She initially passed out, but quickly
> > >recovered and tried to hold her brains in for over an hour until
> > >someone noticed and came to her aid.
> > >

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:09:43 EST
From: CarBurCo@aol.com
To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org
Subject: Re: Ok, does anyone recognize this BURNETT?
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Terri that is FABULOUS.....

   And it sound just like some of my relatives!!! <G> 

Caroline Burnett Cook

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:43:06 -0500
From: "lndshll" <lndshll@sprynet.com>
To: "Burnett Turner News Letter" <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: re: do you recognize this Burnett??
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I just rolled laughing!! Sounds like a "Linda Burnett".
                       Linda Burnett Shull

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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:30:16 -0600
From: "Kevin K. Stephenson" <kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
To: <CarBurCo@aol.com>
Cc: "Burnett Family Newsgroup \(E-mail\)" <btrvetc-l@genealogy.org>
Subject: RE: BTRVETC-L Digest V99 #10
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Caroline--
  The Hardemans were from Davidson County, Tennessee, and most of the
Burnett family which resulted from the marriage of George Burnett and
Dorothy Hardeman(Peter's Parents) were born in Tennessee.  This particular
branch of the Burnetts was related not only to Peter, first Governor of
California, but also to...Cole Younger, the outlaw who belonged to the James
Gang (Frank, Jesse, et al), and who rode with Quantrill in the Civil War
raid on Lawrence, Kansas(where I now live).  I believe this branch also has
ties to President James Polk.  (By the way, there is, or was, a Hardeman
County, Tennessee)
  I seem to remember a reference to a Joseph Bolling Burnett, but I am
unable to find it right now.
Anyone else remember where they've seen it?
	Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: CarBurCo@aol.com [mailto:CarBurCo@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:33 AM
To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org
Cc: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: BTRVETC-L Digest V99 #10



Kevin,

  I am interested in what you said about PETER HARDEMAN BURNETT...I do
vaguely
remember your mentioning the connection. My interest was peaked because I
found a note among my grandmother's notes on Granddad's Burnett ancestors.
She
had info as far back as his grandfather (my great great grandfather)  COL
JOSEPH BOLING BURNETT (1800-1848) Dinwiddie County, Va - Williamson County,
Tn.(moved to Tennessee in 1815)
           Among the notes she had on JOSEPH was a note written on the same
sheet as a description of his tombstone at the old BURNETT cemetary at the
site of their old family home  (2 miles south of Burwood on Carter's Creek
Pike in Williamson County, Tennessee.) The note she wrote  said that PETER
HARDEMAN BURNETT the governor of California was a cousin of some sort....but
there was no documentation mentioned. Maybe it is a very distant tie.

  Do you know if your line is connected with these Va>Middle Tennessee
Burnetts?

Thanks for all your good work,

Caroline

In a message dated 3/3/99 8:58:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu writes:

<<
 Caroline--
   I'm going to write to Travis.  I don't see a direct connection yet, but
 many of the California Burnett's were descended from Kentucky Burnett's,
 through Peter Hardeman Burnett, 1st Governor of California.  Peter H.
 Burnett's uncle was James Cunningham Burnett, my direct ancestor.  Peter,
as
 some of you may remember, led a wagon train to Oregon and then went to
 California during the Gold Rush.
   I don't find a reference to John Courtlan (possibly Courtland?) Burnett,
 or John Percival Burnett.  However, we have some Burnetts from several
 lines, including the ones that went to Kentucky, who had ties to South
 Carolina.  Anything's possible.
   Travis--write me and we'll compare notes! >>

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:26:29 -0500
From: Jane Matherly <jmather@swva.net>
To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org
Subject: A new hint for dates of birth
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990305102629.007c54e0@swva.net>
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DETERMINING DATE OF BIRTH

Bette Butcher Topp provided the following simple formula for determining a
birthdate when you know the date of
death and age. It's called "Formula 8870."

Example:  Died 6 May 1889               18890506
                  Age 71 years 7 mos. 9 days      710709
                                                _________
                                                18179797
                                                   -8870
                                                ________
                                                18170927

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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:46:58 -0500
From: Jane Matherly <jmather@swva.net>
To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org
Subject: My VIA Line
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990305124658.007bb090@swva.net>
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My g grandmother was ELIZABETH (Betty) VIA, b Oct 11, 1840 in Patrick
Co.,Va-d.Jan 13, 1929 in Franklin Co.,VA & married to Charles T Nolen on
Jan 18, 1866 in Floyd Co.,Va
She was the D/O SAMUEL VIA,b.abt 1807 in Franklin Co.,Va-d. before 1870 in
FCVA & married to Emma Hetty Edwards(D/O of Brice Edwards) on Oct 30, 1826
in FCVA
He was the S/O of JOSIAS VIA,b. abt 1774 in_________d.______in_______ &
married on Jan 2, 1800 to Rachel Hale(d/o of Benjamin Hale) in Franklin CO,Va
I believe him to be the S/O DAVID VIA, b.______in Amhurst
co.,VA(?)-d._____in____ & married to Elizabeth (Bishop?)

As you can see, I really don't have very much on my VIA line as yet, so any
help would be appreciated,
	JANE

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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 08:25:53 -0500
From: "leroyf" <leroyf@chesapeake.net>
To: "BTRVETC-L" <btrvetc-l@genealogy.org>
Subject: RE: My VIA Line
Message-Id: <199903061322.IAA15217@chesapeake.net>

Jane,
I have a large file on my Turner Family from VA. In the file I have:
68 Nolen's
41 Via's
16 Edwards's
6 Hale's

none of which match any of those in your message.
Sorry!

Morris L. Ferguson
mailto:leroyf@chesapeake.net



-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Matherly [mailto:jmather@swva.net]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 12:47 PM
To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org
Subject: My VIA Line


My g grandmother was ELIZABETH (Betty) VIA, b Oct 11, 1840 in Patrick
Co.,Va-d.Jan 13, 1929 in Franklin Co.,VA & married to Charles T Nolen on
Jan 18, 1866 in Floyd Co.,Va
She was the D/O SAMUEL VIA,b.abt 1807 in Franklin Co.,Va-d. before 1870 in
FCVA & married to Emma Hetty Edwards(D/O of Brice Edwards) on Oct 30, 1826
in FCVA
He was the S/O of JOSIAS VIA,b. abt 1774 in_________d.______in_______ &
married on Jan 2, 1800 to Rachel Hale(d/o of Benjamin Hale) in Franklin
CO,Va
I believe him to be the S/O DAVID VIA, b.______in Amhurst
co.,VA(?)-d._____in____ & married to Elizabeth (Bishop?)

As you can see, I really don't have very much on my VIA line as yet, so any
help would be appreciated,
	JANE

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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 10:09:54 -0500
From: "turners" <turners@naxs.com>
To: "BTRVETC-L" <btrvetc-l@genealogy.org>
Subject: Re: My VIA Line
Message-ID: <001101be67e3$65a4f860$9b5cc797@newmicronpc>
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My records may not help you because much was recorded before I realized the
importance of documentation.  I have Samuel born in 1809 and dying in 1880.
The children of Samuel and Hetty on my list are Mary Jane (my gg-grandma,
Lewis, Rachel, Larkin, Isaac, Joseph, and Louisa.  Is there another name to
go with Rachel or Louisa or do I need to add Elizabeth?  I have the same
marriage date that you have although "my" marriage location is Franklin Co.

I have a marriage date for Josiah Via and Rachel Hale of January 02, 1800,
but no location.  The only children that I have on my list are Samuel, Mary,
and Isaac.

I have Josiah's father as John Via, born 1760, died 1834, wife, Sarah.
The children as Josias, Anderson, John Jr., Sarah, and Elizabeth.  This may
be wrong since it indicates that Josiah and Josias are the same person.

Maybe this will help.  I would appreciate hearing from you as you learn
more.

Jack Turner

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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 13:57:00 -0500
From: Jane Matherly <jmather@swva.net>
To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org
Subject: Wife of Thomas Jefferson Turner
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990306135700.007b6470@swva.net>
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I have the wife of him as SUSANNA ( Susie) MAY NOLEN; however, I have 2
different dates for her birth( Dec 24, 1879 & Aug 12, 1873 in Patrick
Co.,VA) and 2 different dates for her death(June 28, 1944 in Patrick Co.,Va
& May 1, 1966 in Radford,Va while living with her dau., Lessie ALice  who
m. Frank Pennington.)
Also, I don't have exacet DOB & DOD & places for THOMAS JEFFERSON TURNER.

Would appreciate help in getting my dates correct,
	Jane

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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 17:25:22 EST
From: Bervi@aol.com
To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org
Subject: Re: Wife of Thomas Jefferson Turner
Message-ID: <eb8cf0c2.36e1ab52@aol.com>
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Jane,
Here's what I have on those folks...sounds like you've got dates of 2
different Susannah's...I got this from early compilation, no other
documentation.
Peter Ramsey
Bervi@aol.com
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Thomas Jefferson Turner, b.=A08 January 1859 at Patrick Co., VA

=A0=A0=A0=A0Father: Jeremiah Turner (2), b.=A029 November 1826 at Patrick =
Co., VA,
d.=A01896
=A0=A0=A0=A0Mother: Martha Jane Turner (2), b.=A016 April 1829 at Patrick =
Co., VA, d.=A025
December 1915 at Patrick Co., VA

Spouse: Susannah Mae Nolen, b.=A024 December 1879, d.=A021 May 1966

=A0=A0=A0=A0Father: Isaac Alexander Nolen
=A0=A0=A0=A0Mother: Judith Ann Elizabeth Turner

=A0=A0=A0=A0Married 19 August 1897 at Patrick Co., VA.

=01
Family group report created by Gene 4.2.1, Sat, Mar 6, 1999

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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 18:02:02 -0500
From: Jane Matherly <jmather@swva.net>
To: BTRVETC-L <btrvetc-l@genealogy.org>
Subject: Re: Wife of Thomas Jefferson Turner
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990306180202.007ba760@swva.net>
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THOMAS JEFFERSON TURNER:
I have his death as Jan 23, 1950 in Patrick Co.,VA & buried in Jeremiah
Turner cemetery.
I also have his mother's mother,Judith Ann (Judy) Elizabeth Turner, as same
but have her the D/O Thomas J Turner and Susan Short.  Is that correct?
	Jane



At 05:25 PM 3/6/99 EST, you wrote:
>Jane,
>Here's what I have on those folks...sounds like you've got dates of 2
>different Susannah's...I got this from early compilation, no other
>documentation.
>Peter Ramsey
>Bervi@aol.com
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>Thomas Jefferson Turner, b.=A08 January 1859 at Patrick Co., VA
>
>=A0=A0=A0=A0Father: Jeremiah Turner (2), b.=A029 November 1826 at Patrick=
 Co., VA,
>d.=A01896
>=A0=A0=A0=A0Mother: Martha Jane Turner (2), b.=A016 April 1829 at Patrick=
 Co., VA,
d.=A025
>December 1915 at Patrick Co., VA
>
>Spouse: Susannah Mae Nolen, b.=A024 December 1879, d.=A021 May 1966
>
>=A0=A0=A0=A0Father: Isaac Alexander Nolen
>=A0=A0=A0=A0Mother: Judith Ann Elizabeth Turner
>
>=A0=A0=A0=A0Married 19 August 1897 at Patrick Co., VA.
>
>=01
>Family group report created by Gene 4.2.1, Sat, Mar 6, 1999
>
>

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:39:22 -0500
From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" <ekirkman@swva.net>
To: "BTRVETC List" <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: Thomas Jefferson Turner
Message-ID: <000101be68b9$58435a00$fdac99ce@ekirkman>
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The dates on the gravestones for this couple are:
Thomas J. Turner b. 8 Jan 1859, d. 23 Jan 1950
Susanna M. Turner b. 24 Dec 1879, d. 21 May 1966

Good luck!

Eunice B. Kirkman ***** ekirkman@swva.net

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