Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:22:41 -0500
From: NCreed@aol.com
To: ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu, ALABAMA233@aol.com, BLACK@globe.com,
    bonham@roots.iii.net, burnett@kaizen.net, cgaunt@umich.edu,
    ChickFlet@aol.com, chlamy@acpub.duke.edu, davidcon@microsoft.com,
    JudyH246@aol.com, MikeB55266@aol.com, mlsaps@mcn.net, N4JED@aol.com,
    NCreed@aol.com, r.hoffman1@genie.com, shauck@d.umn.edu,
    TURNER@mail.loc.gov
Subject: BURNETT - TURNER - VIA

I am attaching a file to this document.  If you can't read it for some
reason, let me know what format you can read.  I'll try again.  It's about 19
pages of recent Burnett-Turner-Via information.

Hopefully, we can all keep in touch and learn more about our mutual lines.

Merry Christmas to all.  May 1996 be our best genealogy year ever.

Nyla Creed DePauk
2832 Andiron Lane
Vienna VA  22180


P.S.
Yes, I realize I used BAR for BUR. 


ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu
ALABAMA233@aol.com
BLACK@globe.com 
bonham@roots.iii.net
burnett@kaizen.net
cgaunt@umich.edu 
Chick Flet
chlamy@acpub.duke.edu
davidcon@microsoft.com
JudyH246
MikeB55266
mlsaps@mcn.net
N4JED
NCreed@aol.com
r.hoffman1@genie.com
shauck@d.umn.edu
TURNER@MAIL.LOC.GOV 

This is the inquiry I sent on 7 Dec 1995.  I am attaching all the
responses that I received.  
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Subj:     BURNETT - VIA - TURNER
Date:     95-12-07 18:04:11 EST
From:     NCreed@aol.com

A lot of folks seems to be researching these three families from
Patrick Co/Henry Co VA.  If you are researching these families, I
would love to hear from you.

If you will send me your oldest ancestor's name (along with
spouse if you know the name) and dates of major events (birth,
marriage, death), I will compile a list and send a copy to
everyone who responds.  I will be glad to include other families
who are related to these PatrickCo/Henry Co VA  BURNETTs, VIAs,
and TURNERs if you will send the names to me.

How about replying by 15 December. Looking forward to hearing
from you.  Nyla

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Subj:     Turner Family
Date:     95-12-18 17:59:54 EST
From:     MikeB55266

Seeking Turner information...
My 3rd g-grandmother is Mary Polly Turner.  She married John
Broadwell in 1843 at Elbert Co. GA.  I am seeking information on
her family and hope you can help me.  She died around 1893.  I
found where she was buried but there are no dates on her marker.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.   
Mike Broadwell - Nashville, TN
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Subj:     Turner
Date:     95-12-15 23:39:20 EST
From:     JudyH246
CC:  chlamy@acpub.duke.edu

Hello!  I am looking for a William TURNER b. in Virginia. That is
all I know about him but he had 4 child in TX around 1857-1860. 
In the 1860 census the children were with a SPENCER family in
Stephen Co. TX.  The story passed down through the family is that
his wife died and he was going back to VA for a wife and was
killed. The children - William, Jr., Walter Scott, Mary Alice,
and Rebecca TURNER grew up with the Jos P and M. C. SPENCER
family.  Any information would be appreciated.  Thanks and Merry
Christmas.    Judy Hampton/ JudyH246@aol.com
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Subj:     Re: BURNETTs - VA
Date:     95-12-12 22:02:41 EST
From:     Chick Flet

I am a 2nd cousin 4 times removed to Nancy Burnett Turner. 
Please send correction and additions.  June Bork says that
Nancy's father, John, was son of Isaac, son of Jeremiah Sr.
Chick Fletcher
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Subj:     BURNETT-VIA-TURNER
Date:     95-12-12 21:40:22 EST
From:     r.hoffman1@genie.com

I have these ancestors from Henry Co VA. Would appreciate any
additional data.

Charles BURNETT (s/o Jeremiah and Mary McDANIEL BURNETT) b. ca
1743/5 possibly Spotsylvania Co VA; d. soon af 1810 Grainger Co
TN; m. ca 1765 possibly Albermarle Co VA Catherine BROCK (d/o
George and ? BROCK) b. ca 1744 VA; d. soon af 1810 Grainger Co
TN. They lived on Leatherwood Creek Henry Co VA from 1778-1796.
Their children:
1. Joseph BURNETT b. ca 1765; d. by 1845 Grainger Co TN; m. ab
1786 in VA to Sarah "Sally" ACUFF b. 1766 VA; d. after 1850
Grainger Co TN
2. Moses BURNETT m. Elizabeth MELVIN 2 Aug 1792 Henry Co VA
3. John BURNETT m. 1st cousin Lucy Allen BROCK 30 Nov 1795 Henry
Co
4. Catherine b. 1780 Henry Co VA; m. 7 Mar 1796 Franklin Co VA
Meredith MANNING/MANNEN
5. Claiborn b. 1783/5 Henry Co VA; m. 4 Aug 1809 Grainger Co TN
Deliah BUNCH

Sarah "Sally" ACUFF d/o John and Sarah ? ACUFF, John b. 1740 and
fought in French and Indian War from Lunenburg Co VA. The ACUFF's
also lived on Leatherwood Creek in Henry Co. I need more proof of
relationsships. Who were your BURNETTS.
Pat Hoffman
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Subj:     RE: BURNETT - VIA - TURNER
Date:     95-12-12 12:02:20 EST
From:     BLACK@globe.com (TERRI x2759)

I'm not 100% sure that my TURNER comes from Virginia (but it's a
reasonable guess, as everyone else on this side of my family
started in Virginia [England before that, in most cases...].

My mystery man is Hardin TURNER.  Born (according to family
sources) 1810 in NC.
Hardin Married Nancy Graham, d/o Samuel Graham, 1853 in Marshall
Co., TN.They had 10 children, that I know of:
  Martha D. Turner dob 1854
  Nancy J. Turner dob 1855
  Sarah H. Turner dob 1858
  Margaret F. "Puss" Turner dob 1859
  Stephen "Bud" Turner dob 1860
  Harriet "Hattie" Turner dob 1-18-1864
  George Hardin Turner dob Feb. 1867
  John Robert Turner dob 3-30-1869
  James Crawford Turner
  Daisy Beulah Turner dob 8-21-1877  (Daisy is my ggrandmother,
she married Andrew Johnson Hardiman 12-9-1896 in Giles, Co TN).

Please, let me know if anybody looks familiar here (or don't).
Thanks a bunch,
Terri Black
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Subj:     RE: INGRAMs 
Date:     95-12-11 21:27:02 EST
From:     davidcon@microsoft.com (David Conner)

IF, I typed in everything correctly, Family Treemaker says we're 
5th Cousins, once removed. My father and you are 5th cousins
(makes sense since you are of the same generation, he was born
1939 and my mother 1944, I was born 1964). 

Sarah Elizabeth Ingram is your 3rd Gr Grandmother and James
Ingram, Jr. is my 4th Gr. Grandfather.

Elizabeth Hall was James Ingram, Jr.'s first wife (m. 14 Nov
1816) Jane Turner was his 2nd wife (m. 14 Apr 1859) she was born 
4 Jun 1825 d. 18 Feb 1865. She died 18 days after her son, 
Abraham Monroe Ingram was born.

I have some questions about the info Turners, but will compile
those in another email.

Talk later,
David
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Subj:     RE: TURNER FAMILY
Date:     95-12-12 08:49:03 EST
From:     TURNER@MAIL.LOC.GOV (PHILIP A TURNER)

It seems that we  are  both researching the Turner family in 
VA.  My Turner ancestors lived in Indiana for several 
generations.  Recently, I discovered that  my  ggg grandfather,
William Turner, was born in VA in about 1788  and settled in 
Switzerland Cty., IN  by 1820.  His wife, Tabitha Pruitt, was
also VA born. Wm Turner was a farmer and a member of the Baptist
Church.  He and his wife had a large family, and  I suspect that
almost all of the past and present Turners in southeast IN are
descended or related to him.  If you would like to exchange more
information, you can email.
  
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Subj:     Burnetts in VA
Date:     95-12-10 14:59:38 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  burnett@kaizen.net
CC:  NCreed, cgaunt@umich.edu, ALABAMA233

Saw your note on VA-ROOTS about the Burnetts in VA.
Following is a list of the BURNETT family as I have it.
Supposedly  there were 6 brothers and sisters who came over first
to VA and then spreading out all over.  Again, most ofthis comes
from the 1978 Partick-Henry Allied Families of Virginia, Inc
annual meeting handout put together by May Ross McDOWELL. The
info was based on the book "The Burnett Family" by Charles Howard
Burnett.  Additional books listed as being in the Patrick County
Public Library at that time includes "Family of Burnett of Leys"
by Colonel James Allardyce, LLD and printed in Scotland and
"Thomas Burnett and Descendents"  by Frances Gass.

1.)John BURNETT, Sr.  b.abt 1727  - d. 1827
    m. 1st. about 1744 to Elizabeth _________ who died after 1825
    m. 2nd  Nancy  __________

Children of John BURNETT, Sr.
1a.) John BURNETT, Jr.  m. Judith__________
1b.) Crawford BURNETT    m.29 Dec 1810   Viny SHARP
1c.) Cornelius BURNETT   m. 1st. Lucretia HOOD
               2nd. Elizabeth BISHOP
1d.) Nancy BURNETT   m. 1st. Elisha PACKWOOD
               2nd. John TURNER
1e.) Jane BURNETT   m.22 Nov 1800  James HALL
1f.) Mahala BURNETT  m. William ROSS
1g.) James BURNETT
1h.) Elizabeth BURNETT  m. on 3/13/1810  Jesse CORN, Jr 
                 b. 3/11/1787.  Jesse was magistrate, teacher, 
                 primitive Baptist preacher and Judge of Patrick
                 County Court. (Also m. of 15 Nov 1810 listed)
1i.) Jeremiah BURNETT  m. 6 Jan 1807  Patsy HUGHS
1j.) David Bluford BURNETT  b. 1/29/1833  d. 5/2/1863  
                 m. 6/15/1854 to Exoney NOLEN  b. 10/7/1838
1k.) Amelia BURNETT  m. Harden STOVALL

Children of 1j.)  David Bluford BURNETT and Exoney NOLEN
2a.) Charlie Marshall BURNETT  m. Alice WEST
2b.) Mary Ellen BURNETT  b. 6/17/1859  m.7/12/1877 to
                Joab Joseph MEADOWS

Children of 1h.) Elizabeth BURNETT and Jesse CORN, Jr.
2c.) Permelia CORN  m. James Madison STOVALL  b. 11/5/1805
                  d. 3/8/1902
2d.) Mary (Polly) CORN  b. 5/11/1812 d. 11/5/1896  m. 9/1/1835 
               to Fleming VIA b. 6/14/1808  d. 6/25/1893
2e.) Jane CORN  m. Joe WIMBISH
2f.) Judy CORN  m. Roy Pate ROSS
2g.) Dicea (Dicy)  m. Charles Peyton ROSS
2h.) Peter CORN  m. Clemantine TURNER

Children of 1a.) John BURNETT, Jr.  m. Judith__________
2i.) Judith BURNETT  b. 11/26/1797  d. 1/15/1872    m. 1/28/1813
to 
              Shadrack TURNER II  b. 8/26/1788  d. 11/2/1872


As you can see my entry 1g.) is a James but probably not in the
right time slot for your James but I have no further info at the
minute to back that up.   Will keep your note around in case
something comes up.

David R. Jones, Jr.   Architect
Vinton, VA
n4jed@aol.com
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Subj:     Re: TURNERs
Date:     95-12-10 00:15:19 EST
From:     mlsaps@mcn.net

I saw your message of 8 Dec re TURNER 1750 - ?

1.  Where in KY did Richard Turner live?
   Richard lived only in TN as far as I can tell. He was b in
Dickson Co, TN and all of his children were b in Humphreys Co,TN.

2.  Did George go from Dickson Co TN, where Richard was born,  on
to KY?
   No. he was b in Halifax Co,VA and at sometime moved to TN. He
died in 1862  and was a Baptist Minister and Rev War Vet. He was
married to Sarah Adams who was b in Halifax Co, VA also. As far
as I know he never lived in KY.


3.  Or did George die in Dikson Co TN?
    George died in 1862 but I think he was still in Dickson or
Humphreys Co TN.

Here's a couple bits of info that I located in the TURNER
NEWSLETTERS (Vol I, #5 - Jan 1976, pg 60):
VA WILLS & ADMINISTRATION
Halifax Co:
Jas Turner    1756 i
Jas Turner    1762 i
Jno Turner    1764 w
Jas Turner    1773 w
Jno Turner    1781 w
Jas Turner    1783 w
Jas Turner    1785 w
Tandy Turner 1793 w
     None of these look familiar but I don't know George's father
either.

HALIFAX Co, VA MARRIAGES
George Turner married Sarah Adams 7 Nov 1799
     This is my George THANK YOU!!!!

1-Richard Turner b 19 Sep 1806 Dickson Co,Tn d after 1886 TN
 m-Sarah Finch b 1809 VA d before 1860
   2-Nancy b 1825
   2-Hannah b 1826
   2-Ritchie b 1827
   2-Susan E b 1829 humphreys Co,TN m Wm Autry @ 1850
      3-James b 1850
      3-William b 1852
      3-Amanda b 1853
      3-Martha b 1855
      3-George b 1858
   2-Elizabeth b 1830 Humphreys Co,TN m Edward Carmack in 1851 in
Marshall Co,TN
   2-Caroline Dillard b 1832 Humphreys Co d 1860's, m John
Trogdon @ 1857 Humphreys Co
      3-William E b 1858 Humphreys Co m Mollie Dye 28 Jun 1880
Bedford Co,Tn d 1944 Humphreys Co
      3-Georgia Ann b 1859 Humphreys Co m W S Lumsden 10 Mar 1877
Humphreys Co
      3-Sara b 1861 Humphreys Co m I M Perry 29 Dec 1878
Humphreys Co
      3-Mary b 1862 Humphreys Co
      3-Elisha b 1857
   2-Mary A b 1833 Humphreys Co
   2-Howard William b 22 Sep 1835 Humphreys Co m Caroline Norman
19 Dec 1858 Humphreys Co
      3-James Howard b 9 Aug 1862 Humphreys Co
      3-Mary Jane b 1 Sep 1864 Humphreys Co
      3-Valerie Valentine b 3 Jun 1867 Humphreys Co
      3-Samuel E b 28 Nov 1869 Humphreys Co
      3-Finey W b 15 Nov 1871 Humphreys Co
      3-Margaret Ann b 10 Jul 1874 Humphreys Co
      3-Maud B b 4 Dec 1877 Humphreys Co
      3-John E b 12 Apr 1880 Humphreys Co
      3-William F b 3 Apr 1882 Humphreys Co
      3-Richard Dillard b 1 Sep 1860 Humphreys Co
   2-George Washington b 1837 m Fredonia A Thomas 3 May 1859
Humphreys Co
      3-Richard b 1860 Humphreys Co
      3-Sarah Florence b 23 Jul 1861 Waverly,Humphreys,TN
   2-Isaac b 1839 Humphreys Co m Jane Hobbs 8 Aug 1862 Humphreys
Co
   2- James Robert b 21 Feb 1841 Humphreys Co m Winnie Lawson
1865(lived in KY)She was b in 1850 in VA or TN and died in 1928
buried in the Luttrell Cemetary on Turner Ridge,Casey Co,KY
      NOTE: IN 1865 JAME PURCHASED A FARM NEAR DUNNVILLE,KY WHICH
WAS PASSED TO HIS SON DOC AND THEN TO HIS GRANDAUGHTER ROXIE WHO
OWNS IT NOW.
      3-William Carter b Mar 1865 KY
      3-Thomas Green b 1866 Casey Co,KY d 1942
      3-John R b Aug 1867 Casey Co,KY m Nancy? 1893
      3-Mary Melvinia b 1872 Casey Co,KY d 1952
      3-James Park b Jun 1876 Casey Co,KY
      3-Patric P b Dec 1877 Casey Co,KY d 1959 m Prudie ? 1899
      3-Winnie Elizabeth b 10 Jan 1880 Casey Co d 3 Jul 1942 MO m
William Isaac Thomas(no relation to Fredonia Thomas above) 
          4-Betty Frances b 19 Jun 1907 Casey Co,KY m Robert
Stanhope
          4-Charles b 25 Dec 1909 Casey Co
          4-Herbert b 4 Aug 1911 Casey Co,KY
      3-Doc b Oct 1890 Casey Co,KY m Ora ?
           4-Roxie m Vernon Harrison
   2-Martha Susan b 1842 Humphreys Co m Edward Matlock 10 Dec
1863 Humphreys Co
      3-Saphronia Alice b 3 May 1866 Humphreys Co
   2-William H M b 1844 Humphreys Co m M M Smith 14 Dec 1866
Humphreys Co
   2-Richard D b 1847 Humphreys Co m Lydia Norman @ 1865
Humphreys Co He then m on 26 Dec 1860 Mrs Wm Tubbs(Mary J
White)who was b in 1825 and the daughter of Whidbea White. 
   2-David b 1862
   2-Elisha b 1864
   2-Francis b 1867
He then m on 3 Feb 1879 Mrs David Robertson(Mary M Gillmore) 
Mike & Allison Stanhope
mlsaps@mcn.net
Baker,MT
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Subj:     Re: BURNETT - VIA - TURNER
Date:     95-12-09 21:09:17 EST
From:     burnett@kaizen.net (Russ & Carole Burnett)

Thank for the offer.  My questions is not so much about burnetts
in patrick co/Henry co, rather an attempt to find my
gggggrandfather.  Per the 1840 census he was born in VA in 1815. 
But I know not where nor who his parents, siblings, etc.  His
name was James W. Burnett.  If you come across him or have any
idea how I might proceed, please let me know.  I do know
that in 1840 he and his family were living in Buchanan co
Missouri.

If you also have some ideas on how I might proceed as I'm
relatively new to this research stuff, I would certainly
appreciate.
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Subj:     Re: BURNETT - VIA - TURNER
Date:     95-12-08 20:16:23 EST
From:     shauck@d.umn.edu (steven hauck)

My wife's ancestors are:

John ? TURNER, b. 1689, who married Elizabeth ??.  John was the
father of Shadrack TURNER, who married Ann??.

For the BURNETTs, I have Jeremiah BURNETT (no dates, etc.) who
was apparently the father of Obidiah BURNETT (no dates, etc.),
who married Ruth MAYO (no dates, etc.).

I also have John BURNETT, Sr., b. ABt 1727, d. 1827,  who married
Elizabeth TATE/TAIT, b. Abt 1744, d. Abt 1825.

The VIAs (peripheral and related my marriage to siblings) I have
in my database are:  James VIA m. Elizabeth INGRAM, and Fleming
VIA m. 1 Sept. 1835, Mary (Polly) CORN.

Thanks for the post.

Steve Hauck
Duluth, MN
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Subj:     Re: BURNETTs of Patrick and Henry Co's. 
Date:     95-12-07 12:23:01 EST
From:     ALABAMA233@aol.com

I had a Polly Burnett marry Richard Nowlin in Patrick Co., VA on
30 Jun 1796.  Her father was a Jeremiah Burnett.  I don't know
anything about him.  Does anyone else?
Contact me at ALABAMA233@AOL.COM.  Thanks!

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Subj:     Re: Burnett and Turner
Date:     95-12-07 10:31:02 EST
From:     chlamy@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Harris)

I'm running several days behind on reading genealogy, but would
just like to raise my hand as yet another person interested in
the TURNER family.  My connection is through William TURNER and
Jane HUNTER.  Please include me, as some of you have already
done, in any off-list e-mail correspondence. I'll be happy to
share what I have.

Elizabeth Harris
chlamy@acpub.duke.edu

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Subj:     Re: ShadWTurner
Date:     95-12-06 07:21:42 EST
From:     cgaunt@umich.edu (Christine E. Gaunt)

Hi, Nyla,

I've been getting alot of email, too.  And there are several
(many?) on Compuserve discussing Turners and Burnetts.  Is it the
same on AOL?

There are also Turners in New England.... Or was it Burnetts? 
It's so easy to confuse the two families. 

Maybe we'll find several hundred thousand descendants. (grin)
Chris
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Subj:     Re: Patrick & Henry Counties
Date:     95-12-04 21:08:08 EST
From:     bonham@roots.iii.net (Barbara Bonham)

There are reported to be three books in the Patrick County Public
Library (1978 info) in Stuart, VA on the BURNETT family.  I have
not seen them.  

There are three BURNETT books by June Bork, of which I have all
3.  The information you have appears to be right.  All the data
she published was from either census, court, land or tax records.

I am a descendant of a John BURNETT of Pittsylvania Co.

Good luck.
                              Barbara Farthing Bonham
                              Framingham MA and Summerville, SC
                              (2)bbonham@gnn.com
                              Prodigy CCLB68A

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Subj:     RE: Patrick & Henry Counties
Date:     95-12-04 15:37:34 EST
From:     davidcon@microsoft.com

Nyla,

I saw you posted this:

8.  As to the children of SAMUEL CLAIRBORNE TURNER, I would
"love" anything you care to share on that line.  All I have on
Samuel is he was born 24 Mar1833 at Elamsville, Patrick Co VA and
died 20 Apr 1916 at Elamsville.  Nancy M. STOVALL was born ca
1841 and died ca 1883. Here is information I received from Mrs.
Eunice Kirkman....
David
                       Descendants of: Samuel Claiborne Turner    
     
 
    1 Samuel Claiborne Turner b. 22-Mar-1833 d. 20-Apr-1916 
       m. 12-Nov-1857 Nancy M. Stovall b. 26-Nov-1840 d.
          23-Jul-1883 
        2 Peter Frank Turner b. 4-Dec-1858 d. 4-Jun-1928 
          m. 11-Dec-1884 Lucy A. Law b. 12-Jul-1867 d.
               16-Sep-1900  
          m. aft 1883 Eura Woolwine b. 19-Mar-1882 d. 18-Jun-1964 
          3 James Claiborne Turner b. 5-Feb-1886 d. 9-Feb-1963 
             m. 18-Oct-1908 Laura Lera Vaughan b 2-May-1888 d1977 
             4 Lucy Virginia Turner b. 23-Jul-1910 d. 8-Feb-1914  
             4 Vivian Emma Turner b. 12-May-1912 
                m. 25-Mar-1933 Chester Kyle Bowling b.17-Nov-1905 
                5 Chester Harlowe Bowling 
                5 Gorden Kyle Bowling 
                5 Frieda Lee Bowling 
              4 James Kermit Turner b. 17-Aug-1915 
                m. 19-Nov-1938 Pauline Estelle Hall b.22-Mar-1922 
                5 Tiny Priscilla Turner b. 13-Jul-1939 
              4 Judy Lee Turner b. 1917 m. Harold Campbell d.1992 
                 5 Rebecca Dee Campbell 
                 5 Mary Catherine Campbell 
                 5 Harold F. Campbell 
              4 Steven Tony Turner b. 25-Nov-1921 
                m. 28-Sep-1942 Grace J. Simpson d. 1986  
                m. 18-Dec-1946 Eunice Mae Bateman b. 24-Apr-1926 
                m. Lucille Fields 
                 5 Audrey Faye Turner b. 1943 
                 5 James Stephen Turner b. 31-Aug-1947 
                   m. 22-Dec-1978 Patricia Janice Hitchings b.
                         8-Sep-1952  
                   m. 18-Jun-1994 Madelyn Racho Cacabelos b.
                         20-Jan-1970 
                 5 Roger Bryon Turner b. 4-Jul-1949 
                   m. 15-Dec-1979 Julia Catherine Mahoney b.
                         8-May-1959 
                 5 Linda Turner 
                 5 Laura "Sissy" Turner 
                 5 Tony Marie Turner 
              4 Neva Merle Turner b. 12-Jun-1924 
                m. 14-Feb-1943 Samuel Akers Cooper 
                 5 Jack Mason Cooper b. 9-Oct-1943 
                 5 Leona Kermeen Cooper b. 26-Jan-1948 
              4 Juel McKay Turner b. 11-Sep-1927 m. Mary Frances
                    Love 
                 5 Richard Allen Turner 
                 5 Jeffery Turner 
           3 Susan Turner b. 2-Oct-1887 d. 24-Oct-1975 
             m. 25-Dec-1904 J. Witcher Law b. cir 1885 
           3 Nancy "Nan" Turner b. 3-Oct-1889 d. 19-Aug-1986 
             m. 23-Apr-1905 Emmett Green "Brud" Newman b.cir 1885 
              4 James Clyde Newman b. 17-Mar-1906 d. 1914 
              4 Infant Newman b. 1908 
              4 Lucy Mae Newman b. Feb 1909 
              4 Clarence Frank Newman b. 19-May-1910 d. 1980 
              4 Essie Evelyn Newman b. 1-Oct-1912 
                m. 1-Oct-1936 Alvis Edward Wright b. 3-Jun-1913
                    d. 13-Sep-1953 
                 5 Lois Imogene Wright b. 29-Aug-1937 
                 5 Shelma Lorene Wright b. 27-Jan-1939 
              4 Ester Eugene "Buster" Newman b. 29-Aug-1914 d.
                    June 1980 
              4 Irene Embrazetta Newman b. 1916 
              4 Roy Gilbert Newman b. April 1919 
              4 Luther Elwood Newman b. 11-Mar-1920 d. Aug. 1991 
              4 Ralph Jefferson Newman b. 4-May-1922 
              4 Clara Beatrice Newman b. 22-Mar-1924 
              4 Charlie Ray Newman b. 29-Dec-1926 
              4 John Calvin Newman b. 15-Mar-1928 
              4 Curtis Green Newman b. Feb 1930 
              4 Cecil Emmett Newman b. Feb 1930 
           3 Emma Judith Turner b. 13-Oct-1892 d. 6-Dec-1918 
             m. Walter Henry Craddock b. cir 1890 
           3 Stephen Homer Turner b. 4-Aug-1894 d. 1-Apr-1977 
             m. Dollie Vaughn b. 1-Aug-1901 d. 17-Jan-1923  
             m.Lillian Mize b. cir 1900 
           3 Georgia Turner b. 30-Jun-1896 d. 20-Dec-1955 
             m. John Taylor Massey b. cir 1892 
           3 Kittie Lou Turner b. 30-May-1898 d. 7-Jan-1938 
             m. Charles H. Vaughn b. 11-Dec-1898 d. 30-Nov-1918  
             m.20-Apr-1932 John Peter Rorrer b. 7-Apr-1898 d.
               24-Dec-1964 
              4 Charlie Vaughn m. 11-Feb-1939 Hattie Gay Morrison 
              4 Lindberg Vaughn 
              4 John Vaughn 
              4 Resnald Vaughn 
           3 Crawford Chapman "Dick" Turner 
             m. 26-Oct-1938 Wilma Adeline Lawless b. 1918 
           3 Wallace Turner b. 1914 d. 28-Jul-1980 
             m. 29-Jun-1940 Elsie V. Foley 
              4 Faye Turner b. abt 1942 
           3 Thomas Turner m. Margaret Hiatt 
              4 Betty Turner 
              4 Anne Turner 
              4 Mary Turner 
              4 Ida Turner 
              4 Charles Edward "Buck" Turner b. 1950 d.           
                    21-Jun-1994 
           3 John Turner m. Eleanor Hatcher 
           3 Mary Turner m. Estien M. Hylton 
           3 Alice Mae Turner m. 28-Nov-1935 Nelson Edward Thomas 
       2 Ruth Elizabeth Turner b. 2-Jun-1860 d. 6-Mar-1953 
          m. 28-Nov-1876 Henry H. Hall, Jr. b. 1854 
           3 Turner Clay Hall b. 18-Mar-1897 d. 6-Feb-1927 
             m. abt 1920 Flora Shelton b. 31-Jul-1900 d.
               25-Apr-1991 
              4 Pauline Estelle Hall b. 22-Mar-1922 
                m. 19-Nov-1938 James Kermit Turner b. 17-Aug-1915 
                5 see children above 
        2 Samuel Caliborne Turner, Jr. b.4-Nov-1861 d.10-Jun-1948 
              m. 20-Oct-1897 Bessie Powell b. cir 1860 
        2 Joseph L. Turner b. 22-Nov-1864 d. 12-Jul-1865 
        2 Judith P. Turner b. 23-Feb-1866 d. 21-May-1945 
          m. 7-Jul-1920 Joel H. Wheeler b. cir 1862 
        2 George Stephen Turner b. 9-Jun-1867 d. 12-Aug-1946 
          m. dd-mm-1886 Lillian Hatfield b. cir 1870 
           3 Peter Claiborne Turner b. 4-Apr-1887 d. 6-Aug-1973 
             m. 1909 Lula Susan Spencer b.6-Apr-1893
                    d.24-Nov-1976 
              4 Eulas Greene Turner b. 24-Dec-1909 m. Myrtle E.
                    Shelton 
                 5 Curtis Turner 
                 5 Louise Turner 
                 5 Jean Ann Turner 
                 5 Henry Turner 
                 5 Leon Turner 
              4 James Roy Turner m. Evelyn Turner 
                 5 Evelyn Turner 
                 5 Ned Turner 
                 5 Anita Turner 
                 5 Bobby Turner 
              4 Ethel Frances Turner b. 1-Oct-1912 
                m. Leonard Jefferson Turner 
                 5 Lera Mae Turner b. 25-Oct-1919 
                 5 Lena Turner b. 20-May-1922 
                 5 Mary Alice Turner b. 7-Sep-1934 
              4 Lera Mae Turner b. 25-Oct-1919 
              4 Lena Turner b. 20-May-1922 
              4 Edgar Lee Turner b. 1-Feb-1926 
              4 Walter Daniel Turner b. 22-May-1928 
                 5 Walter Lee Turner 
                 5 Joy Faye Turner 
              4 William Frank Turner b. 15-Apr-1932 m. Peggy Ross 
                5 Susan Lee Turner b. 1-Jan-1963 
                 5 Ann Marie Turner b. 14-Jul-1966 
              4 Mary Alice Turner b. 7-Sep-1934 
        2 John Tyler Turner b. 24-Nov-1868 d. 18-Jul-1869 
        2 Susan Clementine Turner b. 9-Jun-1870 d. 8-Nov-1953 
          m. 8-Jun-1891 Elmer A. Ross b.31-Jan-1850 d.31-Jul-1923 
          3 May Ross b.5-May-1898 m.George H. McDowell
                    b.15-Jan-1898 
           3 Dr. Ella Ross 
        2 Mary Ann Turner b. 24-Jun-1872 d. 22-Jun-1962 
          m. 4-Jul-1894 Ben B. Pedigo b. cir 1870 
        2 Thomas J. Turner b. 5-Sep-1874 d. 5-Feb-1953 
          m. 3-Mar-1909 Lela Janney b. cir 1878 
        2 Emmett Turner b. 14-Jul-1877 d. 19-Apr-1935 m. Amy Wood
               b. cir 1880 

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Subj:     Re: TURNER and BURNETT
Date:     95-12-03 18:24:11 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  NCreed
CC:  N4JED

Nyla,

Thanks for your note on our common families. I will go thru your
list over the next day or so (as the kids let me use the
computer) and answer some of  your questions and compare info.
Please bear with me as I am a beginner at this from a serious
standpoint though I started collecting info on paper in
the 1970's.

First off, most of the data you have seen from me is from the
1978 Patrick-Henry Allied Families  of Virginia, Inc annual
meeting program (they started in 1952 
and continue today). As founder May ROSS MCDOWELL says 
in the beginning, the data is as much based on hearsay and family
recollections as solid research (the ROSS line and BURNETT were
researched at the time).

My list from this meeting specifically shows Elizabeth Turner
marrying 1/2/1804 to Charles Foster but the way the list is typed
it could be in the wrong place as Exony was right above with no
marriage listed.  I would  tend to believe your and Christine's
info since it lists more marriages than I have for the rest of
the family.

Samual C. TURNER and Nancy STOVALL are my great great
grandparents.  The info I have on their children was put together
by my grandmother from family bibles, etc so it is in good shape.
My great grandmother was Mary Ann TURNER who Married Benjamin B.
PEDIGO. I did know my great grandmother though the memories are
faint.  Here is the listing.

Children of Samuel C. TURNER and Nancy STOVALL;
  Peter Frank TURNER born 12/4/1858 d. 6/4/1928 married first to
                Lucy LAWS on 12/14/1885 and 2nd. to Eura WOOLWINE
                  on12/25/1904
  Ruth E. TURNER  b. 6/2/1860. d. 3/6/1953 married Henry H. HALL
                   on 12/14/1876
  Samual C. TURNER, Jr. b. 11/4/1861  d. 6/10/1948  married
                   Bessie POWELL on 10/20/1897
  Joseph L. TURNER b. 11/22/1864  d. 7/12/1865
  Judith P. TURNER  b. 2/23/1866  d. 5/21/1949  married Joel H.
                   Wheeler on 7/7/1894
  George Stephen TURNER b. 6/9/1867  d. 8/12/1946 married
                    Lillian HATFIELD
  John Tyler TURNER  b. 11/24/1868  d. 7/18/1869
  Mary Ann TURNER   b. 6/24/1872  d. 6/22/1962 (I personally
                      knew her-my great grandmother) married
                      Benjamin B. PEDIGO on 7/4/1894
  Thomas J. TURNER  b. 9/5/1874  d. 2/5/1953 married Lela
                      JANEY on 3/3/1909
  Emmett TURNER  b. 7/14/1877  d. 4/19/1935 married Amy WOOD
                       on 12/20/1908
  Susan Clementine TURNER  b. 6/9/1870 d. 11/8/1953 married
                        Elmer A. ROSS on 6/8/1891.
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Subj:     HUNTER
Date:     95-12-02 23:16:44 EST
From:     ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu (Ann Avery Hunter)

Nyla,  Saw your posting in VA-ROOTS saying that you are a
descendant of William Turner and Jane Hunter. Jane's parents, as
you know, were William Hunter and Charity Loftus (or Loftis).
William Hunter was the son of Andrew Hunter and his wife Jane who
were living in that part of Hanover Co. that became Louisa Co. in
1742. So far no one has been able to trace Andrew's parents, as
the Hanover records are gone, but I do have a lot of information
on his descendants (over 600 in my database). I would very much
like to have your descent from William and Charity Hunter to add
to my information and any other descendants of theirs that you
have. I notice that you asked about GEDCOM files. I don't know
how to do that yet. Also I can't figure out how to download
anything in my Freenet or do anything that would smack of
computer literacy. I will be happy to send you postage to
snail-mail me your info. if you wouldn't mind.  My address is 9
Malvern Ave., #1, Richmond, VA 23221.

It is always exciting to find another Hunter descendant.
Ann
--
Ann Avery Hunter
Richmond, Virginia
ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu

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Subj:     Re: Burnett and Turner
Date:     95-12-02 23:09:27 EST
From:     ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu (Ann Avery Hunter)

If any of you Turner researchers are interested, I have
information on the family of Jane HUNTER who married William
TURNER, son of Shadrack.

--
Ann Avery Hunter
Richmond, Virginia
ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu

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Subj:     Patrick & Henry Counties
Date:     95-12-02 14:37:22 EST
From:     N4JED@aol.com
Sender:   va-roots@leo.vsla.edu
Reply-to: va-roots@leo.vsla.edu
To:  va-roots@leo.vsla.edu (Multiple recipients of list)

BURNETT and TURNER  in Patrick and Henry Counties, VA

I recently typed these portions of my family history out for
another VA-ROOTS reader and thought I would  post it here looking
for anyone with additional fills. Being a beginner, I hope the
format prints out right for everyone. It looked correct on my
email editor.

[NOTE:  BY THE TIME I RECEIVED THIS, IT WAS A LITTLE OUT OF LINE. 
I ATTEMPTED TO LINE THIS UP, BUT IF SOMETHING APPEARS OUT OF
LINE, CHECK WITH "N4JED" SINCE IT'S HIS INFO.  NYLA]

There were three TURNER brothers arrived in VA from England
around 1735  Shadrack, Meshack, and Abednego who settled in
southside VA.  Shadrack and Meshack ended up in and remained in
Henry County, VA while Abednego went to SC.

1.) Shadrack TURNER ( b.abt 1720) m. Ann ? (b. abt 1724)
    Josiah TURNER
    William TURNER  (b. 1753)    m.  Jane HUNTER
    Mary TURNER    m  ?  HUNTER
    Larkin TURNER  
    Jeremiah TURNER m.  Rachel ROSS
    Exony Turner
    Elizabeth TURNER  m. Charles FOSTER
2.) and John Turner  ( b. 1747) m.  Elizabeth PRICE
   Mary Ann TURNER              m.  William STONE
   Benjamin TURNER
   John TURNER, Jr.
   Shores Price TURNER
   Clementine TURNER   m.  Thomas CAHILL
3.) and  Shadrack TURNER II (b.  1788) m. Judith BURNETT (b.1797)
    Mary A. TURNER m. ?  NOLEN
    Elizabeth TURNER  (b. 1813)    m.  David J. ROSS
    Joseph T. TURNER                              
  4.) and Samuel Clairborne TURNER  (b. 1833)  m. Nancy STOVALL
      had 10 children ( I have info on all) including
  5.)   Mary Ann TURNER   (b. 1872) m. Benjamin  Barbour Pedigo 
          (b. 1863)
and these are my great grandparents.)

1.) John BURNETT  (b.1727)    m.  Elizabeth ?   then Nancy ?
    Crawford BURNETT     m.  Viny SHARP
     Cornelius BURNETT   m.  Lucretia HOOD  then Elizabeth BISHOP
     Nancy BURNETT       m.  Elisha PACKWOOD then John TURNER
     Jane BURNETT        m. James HALL
     Mahala BURNETT      m. William ROSS
     Elizabeth BURNETT    m. Jesse CORN, Jr.  (See family below)
     Jeremiah BURNETT
     David Buford BURNETT (b. 1833) m. Exoney NOLEN  (b. 1838)
     Amelia BURNETT       m. Harden STOVALL
  2.) and John BURNETT, Jr.    m. Judith
  3.) Judith BURNETT (b. 1797)    m Shadrack TURNER II (see
          TURNER family above)

1.)  Elizabeth BURNETT  m   Jesse CORN, Jr.  (b. 1787)
2.) Permelia CORN m.  Joseph Madison STOVALL (b. 1805)
3.) Nancy STOVALL   m.  Samuel Clairborne TURNER  (see TURNER
family above)  

There are reported to be three books in the Patrick County Public
Library (1978 info) in Stuart, VA on the BURNETT family.  I have
not seen them.  The info above comes from the Patrick-Henry
Allied Families of Virginia and personal conversations.

I have additional information branching off from the above people
so let me know what you have and where we cross.  Hope you find
this useful with your hunting and I would appreciate anything you
can send. 

David Jones, Architect
Vinton, VA
n4jed@aol.com
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Subj:     Re: Burnett and Turner
Date:     95-12-02 17:26:17 EST
From:     cgaunt@umich.edu (Christine E. Gaunt)

David,

Thanks for the info on your Turners and Burnetts - we are distant
cousins, I think.  You have Shadrack (b 1720) with a daughter
Elizabeth who married Charles Foster.  I have her marrying Samuel
Packwood, and her sister Exony marrying Charles Foster.  But the
info I have is not documented; I'm waiting for it.  I'm descended
from Samuel Packwood.

Your post did get mangled in the transmission, which makes
following the descendants somewhat difficult as the lines
wrapped.

Here's what I have for the Shadrack and Ann (Pollard) (Hill)
TURNER family:
     Elizabeth P. TURNER b. abt 1747 m. Samuel PACKWOOD
     John TURNER b 1747 m Elizabeth PRICE
     Josiah TURNER b bef 1751 m Mildred (Milly) KEY
     William TURNER b 1753 m Jane HUNTER
     Mary TURNER b 1755 m William HUNTER
     Larkington (Larkin) TURNER b 1757 m Mary HICKEY
     Jeremiah TURNER b abt 1765 m Rachel ROSS
     Exonia TURNER b abt 1771 m Charles FOSTER

In your listing, is your John Turner (b 1747) the son of Shadrack
(b abt 1720)?  This is what I think you have for John's line:

John Turner (b 1747) m. Elizabeth PRICE
     Mary Ann TURNER  m. William STONE
     Benjamin TURNER
     John TURNER, Jr 
     Shores Price TURNER
     Clementine TURNER m. Thomas CAHILL
     Shadrack TURNER II (b. 1788)  m. Judith BURNETT (b. 1797)

And what I think you have for Shadrack and Judith Burnett
Turner's family:
     Mary A. TURNER m. ? NOLEN
     Elizabeth TURNER (b. 1813) m. David J. ROSS
     Joseph T. TURNER
     Samuel Clairborne TURNER (b. 1833) m. Nancy STOVALL

Is Mary Ann TURNER [(b. 1872) m. Benjamin B. PEDIGO (b. 1863)]
the daughter of Samuel C. and Nancy Stovall Turner?

I know of someone else with Shadrack and Judith Turner in their
line; I'll forward your info to her once I make sure I've got it
straight. (AOL's mail editor seems to allow more characters per
line than most Internet mail programs.  If you can, try setting
your characters per line at 72 or less.)

Here's the info she sent me on Shadrack and Judith's family:

l.Shadrack "Shady" Turner, born about 1790 and Judith Burnett,
born   November 26, 1797, Elamsville, Patrick County, Virginia,
had the following children:
      1. Elizabeth Betsy G. Turner, born December 22, 1813
      2. Mary Ann Turner, born about 1815
      3. Amanda Burnett Turner, born March 17, 1819 (my husband's
          ancestor, who married Robert Anderson Ross).
      4. Mahala A. Turner, born January 2, 1821
      5. Joseph Shores Turner, born about 1822
      6. Soloma Turner, born about 1823
      7. Permelia Corn Turner, born about 1825
      8. Martha Jane Turner, born April 16, 1829
      9. Malissa Ruth Turner, called Mi Ruth, born May 2, 1831
      10. Samuel Claiborne Turner, born March 24, 1833
      11. Nancy Clementine Jane "Tinie" Turner, born February 4,
          1836
      12. Thomas Turner, born about 1838

Here's what I have on the BURNETTs, from John Burnett's estate
papers:

John Burnett d. abt 1827, m Elizabeth (TATE per "The Burnetts and
their Connections" by June Bork.  I've not seen the book, just
had messages from those who have it.)
     People in the estate papers:
    Crawford Burnett  
    William Ross 
    Cornelius Burnett 
    John Turner  
    James Hall 
    Samuel Corn 
    Shadrick Turner 
    Jess Corn 
    Elisha Packwood

>From the Burnett book, the children were:
     John Jr.
     Cornelius
     Jane m. James Hall
     Mary  (went by Polly) m Elisha Packwood
     Crawford
     Nancy m. John Turner
     Elizabeth m. Jesse Corn
     Permelia m. Samuel Corn
     Judith m. Shadrick Turner
     Mahala m. William Ross

You have John Burnett marrying Elizabeth first, then Nancy.  I've
got a widow's dower document for Elizabeth Burnett, widow of John
Burnett. Could the order have been reversed?  Also, you have
Jeremiah, David, and Amelia as well as John Jr as children of
John Burnett (b. 1727).  I'm confused.  Do you have John Burnett
Jr's children?  When did your two Johns die?

Many thanks for your post,
Chris Gaunt
cgaunt@umich.edu
Chelsea, MI

