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Subject: TURNER-BURNETT-VIA-ETC #4 - 2ND TRY- 1st part

Several on the list tell me they couldn't read the file to the mail I sent
last night.  I will copy it below.  Sorry for any inconvenience.  If you have
any suggestions on how I can ensure it works every time, please let me know.
 Thanks.  Nyla
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Subj:     TURNER-BURNETT-VIA-ETC/E
Date:     96-01-20 15:43:23 EST
From:     72650.74@compuserve.com (Philip A. Turner)
To:  NCreed@aol.com

Hi Nyla,
   I am enjoying the information coming in about the Turners of Patrick and
Henry Counties, VA.  So far, I have not found a connection to any of my
Turners who migrated to IN in the early 1800s.  In case you didn't put that
information in the compilation, I am looking for a William Turner (b. @1788,
 VA) who married Tabitha Pruitt (b. @1788, VA). A William Turner appears on
the 1807 territorian census in Decatur County, but I don't know if he is my
 Wm. Turner or another.  He is definitely in Switzerland Cty. by
1820.
BTW, I have looked at "The Turner Family Magazine" that is in the Library of
Congress microfilm collection.  It is odds and ends of information and not
very helpful.  There is only one or two paragraphs about the three brother,
Shadrack, Meshack, and Abednigo.  This line is written up better in some of
the other Turner genealogies.    If you would be interested, I could make up
a bibliography of books on the Turner family that are in the LoC collection.
 There are some 40 to 50 books about the Turners so it would be a fairly long
file.    
                       Phil Turner
===============================================================Subj:
    Burnett line
Date:     96-01-20 14:57:45 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  NCreed
CC:  Knights5

Nyla,
Was looking at the BURNETT listing you sent Kurt and I have a question.  What
happened to the family and descendents of Issac BURNETT, son of Jeremiah
BURNETT Sr. and brother of Jeremiah Jr.???

Has something shifted I was unaware of or do I have someone out of place?

Your help as always is appreciated.

David Jones  Architect
Vinton, VA
n4jed@aol.com
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Subj:     Re: Burnett line
Date:     96-02-04 17:54:23 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  NCreed

Nyla,
Maybe I have it right and dont realize it. I thought the following info came
from you that John BURNETT Sr. was son of Issac BURNETT who was son of
Jeremiah BURNETT Sr. The quoted source for all this was Borks book.  Please
look at the following
and see if it is right with what you know.  Is the family in the Dec 20
listing tied in  to person number 3 listed below? Your help much appreciated
as I keep having a hard time with this line.

Descendants of Jeremiah BURNETT Sr.
First Generation
1.  Jeremiah BURNETT Sr..
He had the following children:
     +    2    M    i.   Isaac BURNETT.
          3    M    ii.  Jeremiah BURNETT Jr..

Second Generation
2.  Isaac BURNETT.
He had the following children:
     +    4    M    i.   John BURNETT Sr. was born 1761 and died 1827.

Third Generation
4.  John BURNETT Sr. was born 1761 in Hanover Co., VA. He died
1827 in Patrick Co., VA.  John married (1) Elizabeth TATE in Hanover Co., VA.
Elizabeth died after 1825.   They had the following children:
          5    M    i.   John BURNETT Jr..  John married (1) Mary Ann
PRILLIMAN, daughter of Jacob PRILLIMAN and Nancy SNIDOW.
          6    M    ii.  Crawford BURNETT.  Crawford married (1) Viny SHARP
on 29 Dec 1810.
          7    M    iii. Cornelius BURNETT.   Cornelius married (1) Lucretia
HOOD.
Cornelius also married (2) Elizabeth BISHOP.
          8    F    iv.  Nancy BURNETT was born 15 Aug 1787 in Hanover Co.,
VA. She died 19 Nov 1871 in Patrick Co., VA.  Nancy married (1) Elisha
PACKWOOD.
Nancy also married (2) John TURNER Rev., son of William TURNER
and Jane HUNTER on 15 Oct 1804 in Patrick Co., VA. John was born
21 Sep 1779 in Henry Co., VA. He died 20 May 1874 in Patrick Co.,
VA.
          9    F    v.   Jane BURNETT.  Jane married (1) James HALL on 22 Nov
1800.
          10   F    vi.  Mahala BURNETT.   Mahala married (1) William ROSS.
          11   F    vii. Elizabeth BURNETT.   Elizabeth married (1) Jesse
CORN Jr, son of Jesse CORN and Nancy HANCOCK on 13 Mar 1810. Jesse was born
11 Mar 1787.
          12   F    viii.     Judith BURNETT was born 26 Nov 1797 in
Elamsville, Patrick Co., VA. She died 15 Jan 1872 in Elamsville, Patrick Co.,
VA. Judith married (1) Shadrack TURNER II, son of John TURNER and Elizabeth
PRICE on 28 Jan 1813 in Patrick Co., VA. Shadrack was born 26 Aug 1788 in
Elamsville, Henry Co., (later Patrick), VA.  He died 2 Nov 1872 in Patrick
Co., VA.

Thanks, 
David R. Jones, Jr.
Architect
Vinton, VA
n4jed@aol.com
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Subj:     Re: Burnett line
Date:     96-02-10 10:27:12 EST
From:     Knights5
To:  NCreed

In a message dated 96-02-04 15:31:31 EST, you write:

<< David:
     I found an Isaac Burnett, s/o Jeremiah Sr, and brother to John Jr.   See
below.  Is this the one you were asking about?    The message you are
referring to that I sent Kurt was dated 20 Dec, I believe.  It seems to me
that Jeremiah Burnett Sr is a
different person than the one who was father of Isaac.  Is this wrong?
      I would appreciate your comments, etc.  Any help is always
 appreciated.
     Thanks.     Nyla >>

Thanks for including me in your note.  I was unable to make connections with
anyone in that list.  I am always looking for info on the Jeremiah Burnett
that had daughter
Mary (Polly) that married Richard Nowlin on 3 Jun 1796 in Patrick CO, VA.
 Thanks again!
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Subj:     TURNER-BURNETT-VIA-ETC/E
Date:     96-01-20 15:43:23 EST
From:     72650.74@compuserve.com (Philip A. Turner)
To:  NCreed@aol.com

Hi Nyla,
   I am enjoying the information coming in about the Turners of Patrick and 
Henry Counties, VA.  So far, I have not found a connection to any of my
Turners who migrated to IN in the early 1800s.  In case you didn't put that
 information in the compilation, I am looking for a William Turner (b. @1788,
 VA) who married Tabitha Pruitt (b. @1788, VA).  A William Turner appears on
 the 1807 territorian census in Decatur County, but I don't know if he is my
 Wm. Turner or another.  He is definitely in Switzerland Cty. by 1820.

BTW, I have looked at "The Turner Family Magazine" that is in the Library 
of Congress microfilm collection.  It is odds and ends of information and not

very helpful.  There is only one or two paragraphs about the three brother, 
Shadrack, Meshack, and Abednigo.  This line is written up better  in some of 
the other Turner genealogies.    If you would be interested, I could make up
a bibliography of books on the  Turner family that are in the LoC collection.
 There are some 40 to 50 books  about the Turners so it would be a fairly
long file.
                        Phil Turner
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Subj:     Turners list
Date:     96-01-20 11:27:01 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  NCreed
CC:  102125.3126@compuserve.com

Nyla,

Kathe Young in her library research has come up with another wife
or name for one of our ancestors. Please review this for me...

In your last list out for Larkin TURNER, son of Shadrach TURNER
and Ann HILL, you have listed Mary HICKEY as Larkin's wife. 
Kathe has provided me with the name Jane HEARD as his wife.

Please review this and let me know what you decide.

Thanks
David Jones   Architect
n4jed@aol.com
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[DAVID:  I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.  MAYBE SOMEONE CAN HELP US WITH
THIS?  ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY WIVES LARKIN TURNER HAD?  Nyla]
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To:  NCreed

Nyla,
In looking at your latest list I found the following info given
to me by Ann Hunter that appears to be missing in your list. 
Would you please review this and let me know if I have something wrong.

In the list of children for William TURNER and Jane HUNTER I have
this additional child provided by Ann; Sarah TURNER  b. 21 Dec 1788  d. 27
Apr 1874  m. Jul 1809 to Christian SNIDOW

This would fit the time line right. Please let me know.

David Jones   Architect
n4jed@aol.com
===============================================================David:

You are correct.  This definitely belongs with the family.  I find this
SNIDOW family is mentioned in HISTORY OF THE MIDDLE NEW RIVER SETTLEMENTS AND
CONTIGUOUS TERRITORY by David E. Johnston (1906).  Thanks for pointing that
out.
Nyla

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Subj:     Turner's
Date:     96-02-05 18:27:50 EST
From:     PWhetzel
To:  NCreed
I was reading your posting about the Turner line and would like to know if
you have any whetzel's or westfall's.  I myself have a lot of Turner's

Paul
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Subj:     Re: TURNERs/WHETZELs or WESTFALLs
Date:     02/06/96
To:  PWhetzel

Paul:

Right off I don't recall anything on either of those names.  Where were they
living?  How do they connect with TURNERs?   There's lots of TURNER stuff
being exchanged.

Nyla
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Subj:     TURNER
Date:     96-01-18 15:39:38 EST
From:     majie@sava.gulfnet.com (Mary Alley)
To:  NCreed@aol.com

Nyla,
I just got this piece of information sent to me by another Barnes researcher.
It's from Pioneer Families of America p. 347:

SIMMS. - Matthew Simms and his wife, who was a Miss Emory, removed from 
North Carolina to Madison County, Ky., in 1779.  Their children were  -
Nancy,  William, Elizabeth, Lucinda, and Josiah.  William married Sally
Barnes, of Kentucky and settled in Howard County, Mo., in 1818.  His children
were.......Elias married Elizabeth Martin, and settled in Missouri in  1819.
 William married Mary Gay and settled in Audrain County in 1835.   Irvin
married Elizabeth Turner, and settled in Boone County in 1819.  John married
Martha Crews, and settled in Boone County the same year.  Elizabeth
married James Barnes, who settled in Boone County in 1815.  Rebecca married
Azal Barnes, who settled in Missouri in 1835. Lucretia married Benjamin
Barnes,
who settled in Boone county in 1816. Nancy married Ezekiel Hickman, who
settled
in Boone County in 1816.  Sally married George Hickman, who settled in Boone
County in 1835.

Has anybody in the group run across the Elizabeth Turner who married  Irvin
Simms and settled in Boone Co., MO  in 1819? I'm guessing that both of them
were related to my Barnes/Turner line, as well as to each other (cousins).
Majie Alley

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Subj:     Turner Information
Date:     96-01-28 00:00:55 EST
From:     DP6195

CC:  DP6195

I saw your posting about the Turner family on the bulletin board. 
While I do not have much data, I thought it would be worthwhile
to pass along what I do have since we might be looking in the
same neighborhood.  Please let me know if you can add anything to
my fragment.  Thanks.

Sarah Turner married Christopher Long in 1773 in Culpepper
County, Virginia.  She died in 1822 but I don't know where. 
Christopher and Sarah's daughter Ellen "Nelly" Long later married
Henry Fee.  My only information about them is that their son
Thomas Fee Sr. was born 5/17/1811 in Henry Co., Virginia so that
helps set the overall timeframe and could lead one to speculate
that Sarah and Christopher probably remained in Virginia.  That's
it!  Good luck.
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Subj:     TURNER family
Date:     96-01-18 10:55:22 EST
From:     BKeys26433
To:  N4JED
CC:  Cgaunt@umich.edu, NCreed

Hi,
I am very behind in reading my VA-ROOTS digests. I just read the
postings of December 2, 1995 and saw the mention of Shadrack,
Meshack, and Abednego Turner.  I have no Turners in my line, however I do
have a book titled "Deep East Texas Folk: The Tillers, Crenshaws, Woodleys,
Goldens,
and Other Related Families of Panola and Harrison Counties". It
is written by Terry G. Jordan and Mary Lynn Tiller Wier.  I purchased the
book from a used book store hoping to learn a little more about Panola Co.
TX..

Anyway, It has a mention of those TURNERS, the daughter of Shaderack II, Mary
Turner (born March 1, 1776), married William M. Golden and they moved to
Madison Co. Alabama. Their first son Richard G. Golden later moved to Panola
Co. Tx. There is more information given about the Turners, about 3 pages,
then a lot more on Richard and his dedcendants.

The book says a limited edition of 400 copies were published in 1976, mine is
#129. There are two addresses given: 
Terry G. Jordan
315 Ridgecrest Circle
Denton, TX 76201

Mary Lynn Weir
1804 Twentieth St.
Orange, TX 77630

I hope this information may be off some help to you.

Copies of this message were sent to: N4Jed@aol.com ,
Cgaunt@umich.edu , NCreed@aol.com

Good Luck!
Barbara Keys
BKeys26433
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Subj:     Re: TURNER family
Date:     96-01-19 20:30:18 EST
From:     BKeys26433
To:  NCreed

Nyla,

Feel free to pass it on to anyone you think may be interested. I hope it will
be of some help to someone.   Good Luck!

Barbara

BKeys26433
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[PLEASE NOTE WHEN I COPIED FROM EMAIL TO THIS DOCUMENT THE LINE
LENGTH IN THE FOLLOWING FOUR LETTERS SUBMITTED BY N4JED WAS
CHANGED.   THEY ARE ON CHRIS GAUNT'S HOME PAGE.  TAKE A LOOK AT
THEM THERE.  ALSO, IF YOU HAVEN'T VISITED CHRIS' HOME PAGE, TRY IT.   

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/gene
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Subj:     TURNER letters from 1800's
Date:     96-01-28 15:34:56 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  NCreed

(My grandmother saved several TURNER letters from the 1800's 
that she passed down to me. Whenever she got them out she was 
so proud of the fact that her ancestors could write. I will type
out the letters as I get time in the same style and line length
as the originals for other TURNER searchers to enjoy. Your
comments are appreciated. The following letter is from Joseph
Shores TURNER and his wife Rachel TURNER in Wright Co. MO to 
Joseph's parents Shadrack TURNER and Judith BURNETT in 
Patrick Co. VA. References to other people in the letter I can 
identify include Robert Anderson ROSS and his wife Amanda 
Burnett TURNER (Joseph's sister). Any other people you can 
figure out I would appreciate knowing about. Contact me at 
n4jed@aol.com    )

                                                     1860
                                        december 26 

Wright County Mo  december
dear farther and mother    i agane 
seet my self to wright you a 
few lines to let you no that we ar awl 
well hoping theas few lins may 
find you all well    i have settle 
in Mo  i have got 162 akers land 
40 akers clerd    thar is 100 akers of 
it as level as your flore and will 
make from 10 to 15 barrels per aker    
thare is congrefs land awl arond 
my land at 75 cents per aker thou 
i hant got no use for it    i have 
got as much a gin as i ever can 
tend my self and i never exspet 
to have any help    awl of ower 
children is old    Ped and bina move 
out with us to this country    they 
live 1 mile from us    Bob rofs and Mand 
has bin to see us this sumer     i exspet 
they will move next fall   Carter is 
coming next fawl and rachels 2 sisters
and famlys sais they ar coming next 
fawl   bina has a fine girl and cawl it 
Amanda Elizabeth    thar will be a 
rale road from St lewis to Spring field    
it will run in 20 mils of us     it is 
graded in 40 mils of us now and 
they think they will have they 
cars a runing in 20 mile by next 
winter    when we got here last spring 
they grafs was nee hy awl over the 
woods

(next page)
i have bin a hunting to day    
i have seen 50 turkeys i exspet 
to day    i dident see no dear but 
they is a heep here    i live on a creek 
and i can go to hole and hunderds 
of fish 2 feet long    i will now tell 
what els i have got    i have got a 
plnty meet and corn to do mee   
1 mule worth $125   one colt $75 + 20 hogs 
5 sheep 2 cows and calvs 12 chickens 
1 dog 1 cat 1 wagon $90   i will now give you they 
prices   corn 50 cts per bushel   wheet $1.25 a 
bushel   Pork $5.00 a hundred    Stock of 
awl kinds brings far price    so i will 
quit for this time and do better next
i want you to wrigt to mee
as soon as you git this and tell 
the rest to wright    i hant got they 
scratch of a pen from noe of you 
in 4 years   so no thing more but 
i remin your effetint son

Rachel Turner                          J. S. Turner

Direct your letter to harts vill Mo

         Harts vill Mo
                            Wright Co  Mo

     My land cost $500.00

(end of letter)


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Subj:     Amanda B. TURNER and Robert A. ROSS letter
Date:     96-02-02 11:11:00 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  NCreed

(Here is letter number 3.  My grandmother saved several TURNER
 letters from the 1800's that she passed down to me. Whenever 
she got them out she was so proud of the fact that her ancestors 
could write. I will type out the letters as I get time in the
same style and line length as the originals for other TURNER searchers to 
enjoy. Boy, is it hard to keep from correcting spelling, etc. 
Your comments are appreciated.   The following letter is from
Amanda Burnett (TURNER) ROSS  in Monroe Co., KY to her 
parents Shadrack and Judith (BURNETT) TURNER in Patrick 
Co. VA References to other people in the letter I can 
identify include Joseph Shores TURNER and his wife Rachael among
others.Contact me at n4jed@aol.com    )

Monroe County Ky August the 11th 1856
Dear Father and Mother Sisters and Brother  I take my pen
in hand to write you as few lines to let you know that
we are in common health at this time  hoping thes lines
may find you all enjoying the same blefsing
I have nothing of much importance to write   it is very
healthy here   so far, we have had a very 
dry hot summer here   corn crops is sorryier than ever
was known here   there will be no tobacco raised if
it dont rain shortly   we will almost loose seed
of all kind of vegitables   I have not had a mefs
of corn field beens this summer   The ground has
not bin to wet to plow since may and verry
few showers since, there was good crops of oats
and wheat made here, so there will be no danger
of people suffering though I fear stock will suffer
We have raised 50 bushels of wheat this summer
and Carter 25, Joseph raised none though it 
wont take much to do them for Rachael can make
a little do   She can cook as good as aunt Nancy 
Turner   Jo is doing well   he has two likely mares
and a mule colt  a good stock of hogs and
cattle,   Carter will have a bad chance this year
he is gettin along prety well a fixing abut his
house   he has made him a loom and two new

(page two)

bed steads  a set of chairs and a wheel   Robert has
twenty two acres in corn  If it had bin seasonable
he would of raised 210 barrels   he thinks he wont
raise more than fifty  we have some old corn  se have
40 hogs to fatten and as many to winter   we have
five head of horses and five mule colts a good stock
of cattle and sheep,  we can rub through by buying 
some corn with our oats,   Our children go to school
Jo J is steadying the arithmetic   Cafs learns very fast
Sam runs away and goes every day   the school house
is not more than two hundred yds of Permelias
two oldest children goes,   I have not heard from any
of you this summer   we are getting uneasy   Permelia
and myself has both wrote and have received no
answers,   I want you to write as soon as you get
this letter   write how you are all doing  tell sister
Betsy I want her to write and let me know how
she is doing  I oftenen think her and the children
and want to see them   I want to see you all once
more  I think we will come next summer if we 
all live,   Bennett Stone and his wife come up
to see us last week and said uncle AWm and
all the ballance was well   uncle Benjamin
was not very well when we heard from thare
and marinda morris was verry low withe
dropsy,   If you and mother would come and see
us it would be  more satisfaction to me than any
else on earth   I want Sam and Tiny to come 

(page three)

and see us this fall if they can    Albina is grown and
can do any kind of businefs   She is weaving coverlids
now,   I believe I have wrote everything I can
think of   tell Lewis Turner that Susan Carter
is very low with her breast,   Robert and the 
children joins in sending our love to all our
connections and friends,   I remain your affectional
daughter until death           Amanda B Rofs

Shadrack Turner
Judith Turner
Samuel and Clemantine

August the 12th   We had a fine shower of rain
this morning   tobacco is not to far
spent to make pretty good crops yet
we have 10 thousand plants growing
and Jo and carter 8 thousan each  Jo and
Carter will both make plenty of coin to do them
I weigh 150  Robert 147  Albina 121  Jo 89
I have forgot what Cafs and Sam weighs,
Jo and Rachael bothot look verry healthy  Carters
family looks as well as they did when they left
thare   I believe I will quit     A B Rofs

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Subj:     More TURNER lettersw
Date:     96-02-02 09:30:38 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  NCreed

(Here is another of my TURNER letters from our ancestors.
My grandmother saved several TURNER letters from the 1800's 
that she passed down to me. Whenever she got them out she was 
so proud of the fact that her ancestors could write. I will type
out  the letters as I get time in the same style and line length as
the  originals for other TURNER searchers to enjoy. Your comments 
are appreciated. The following letter is from John H. HIN ? and 
Permilia TURNER CARTER  in Monroe Co. KY to Samuel C. TURNER
in Patrick Co. VA.  Contact me at n4jed@aol.com    )
   
(This 12 inch by 15 inch letter was folded to mail size, sealed 
with a red wax, addressed;)

Mr
     Samuel C Turner
             Elamsville  Patrick Co.
                     Virginia

(across the top of the address face in another handwriting it
says)

Centre point  Ky                   paid 3

(page one)

Monroe Cty   Kentucky
Dec 30  1855

        Dear Sam and Tiny   I 
will write you as few lines to 
let you now something of Kentucky   
you have both perused shooting 
creek and this is as fair a 
sample as I can come at though 
not quite as god a looking a 
place as that on the account 
of dry creeks choise mills and 
people in general   the ladys 
hear all wear yarn dresses striped 
in the filfen   shorter than any 
little children ther and no pa____
lets   squar handkerchiefs round 
the neck with the dirtest bon
nets i ever seen on all the 
tim  white yarn stockings well 
soled and coars peged shoes  
no maner of politeness about 
them   I have been tryig ever since 
I came hear to get one to sit 
down longenough to set up to 
her    though have give it up 
as a bad jod    as tha apear 
so wild and savage  I have travel
ed over seven countys in the 
State but I dont think she 
hear   So fair as the geantleman 
is concerned if I must call them 
geantlemen  drinking and gambling 

(second page)

is there ocupation   Sam mee 
and Jo is just in one noch 
waying 100 and 90 and Joes wife 
is a small woman waying 100 
and 66 lbs   tell Margaret Ferguson 
i have been to Sandfords and 
found them all well and doing 
well a pearenty   Say to mr 
I S _dams  I received his leter on 
the 25 and was glad to hear 
they was all well   I will 
write to him soon   Sam 
you must write to mee and 
give the news generally as 
ther is nothing hear to write 
about   be shore to write whether 
Mat Roberson is dead or not 
and how you come on at wits 
spur since you got your dith 
coat   Tiny tell mee who is 
your bea since the old wons 
is all dead   give my respects 
to unkle Shady and Aunt 
Judy and Dicy Corn   tell her 
to write to mee and give mee 
the news from goblintown  
give my respects to Haty Ann 
and the widow  allso I must 
come to  a close by saying 
farewell
                                     John H. Hin?
(third page)

      Sam  I will write you 
and Tiny a few lines as Hampton 
cant fill up sheet   I promist 
to write what sort of a look
ing woman joes wife was  she 
is fair skined  blue eyed  light 
hair  white eye brows rezembly 
lithe helton moor than any 
body els I ever saw though very 
kind and friendly   I like her 
tolerable well for the acquaintence  
She had a good bed frog  bedstead 
and a few bed quilts is all I now 
of in the way of beding  4 chairs 
a pair of fire dogs and aunt rachels 
saddle   is all she had that I know 
of   tha hav two beds a good table 
and a box for a cubboard   a house 
a bout the sise of the lewry nailed 
boards plank laft and dirt chimney 
a nother little house for a kitchen 
and smokehouse   we want you to write 
whether Mr and old Betsy is maried 
or not   I will deseribe Bobs folks 
in the next letter as I hav no 
rom this time   Mary is to be 
maried wednes day to Eaf willia
ms  She will marry at old 
Smiths makes   no weding pleas  
if you rite any thing you dont 
wish all to no put it in hamps 
letter   I must come to a close by 
saying fare well Sam and Tiny
                          Permelia Carter

(n4jed@aol.com)
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Subj:     Turner family letters
Date:     96-02-04 11:43:39 EST
From:     N4JED
To:  NCreed

(Here is letter number 4.  My grandmother saved several TURNER
 letters from the 1800's that she passed down to me. Whenever 
she got them out she was so proud of the fact that her ancestors 
could write. I will type out the letters  in the same style
and line length as the originals for other TURNER searchers to 
enjoy. Your comments are appreciated. The following letter is from
Permelia Corn (TURNER) CARTER  in Monroe Co., KY to her 
parents Shadrack and Judith (BURNETT) TURNER in Patrick 
Co. VA References to other people in the letter I can 
identify include Joseph Shores TURNER and his wife Rachael among
others.  Contact me at n4jed@aol.com    )


                     Monroe Cty Kentucky
                              June the 28 1856

Dear Father Mother Brothers and 
Sisters   I will now in form you er
are all well and have enjoyed as good
health hear as we did there   Amanda
is complaining som   Jos and Rachel is
well   Jo received your letter   I received
Tinys and would of answerd it long
a go though had nothing to write
worth sending and if I wait for something
you wont hear from mee   so you shall 
hear from mee if it is only to say
howdy   we had a cool spring   at this
time the wether is warm and very dry
weve made 25 bushels of good wheat
and have a very good crop of oats
corn and 4 thousand plants of to bacco
planted   we are not quite half done
planting   if it rains by the middle 
of July I have a promising flax and
cotten patch  a good many vegetables
though they ar sorry on the account
of the drouth   we have a very pretty
young orchard coming on and some
froot on them  and some peaches   our
gray filly provd to be a splendid nag
we keep her yet   we bought a cow and 
yearlin calf this spring for 15$    the
foxes has deprived mee of many cicanes (chickens?)
I have 4 goslins   I have white washed
my house and got a high post bedstid
and a cup board   my house looks quite

(page 2)

grand for kentucky   the water geting
very sorry generally though our spring
never fails and is as good water as i ever
drank   Jo sais tell you all he has forgot
how to write   you must excuse him for
not writing   Mr Hin is hear and well
he has had some work to do thoug
finds it scearce  J has not desided whet
her he will come to Va this fall
or not   if he does it will be lat
he wants you all to write to him
and give him the news ginerally
Tiny you accused us of making
fun of your letter   not so   it just
such as I want tot hear all of
you   pleas write to mee often
I would be glad to hear every
weak   the children has growd so
you would hardle no them    Merit
can walk good   I recon I would
way a hundred lbs   I must come 
to a close for the want fo something
to write
                        Permelia Carter


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Subj:     Frances Burnett m. John Bates in Patrick CoVA
Date:     96-02-01 22:41:45 EST
From:     Witt Bates
To:  NCreed

Seeking lineage/information covering Frances Burnett who
married John Bates on 1 Nov.1796 in Patrick CoVa.  This
couple moved south, finally in GA.  Have listing of some
of their descendants.

Frances Burnett was daughter of Philip and Mary Stephens (sic). 
Witness to the wedding was Rev. War Sol.  William Fuson who had
married Hannah Bates in 1784 in Henry Co (guess that part now
Patrick CoVA)

Speaking of name Stephens, on 24 Dec 1804 Polly Bates married
John Derben Stephen in adjoining Franklin CoVA.  Surety Isaac
Bates.

In 1785 Tax list shows Isaac Bates & John Bates in Henry CoVA,
in that part cutoff for Franklin CoVA.   1787 tax list shows
them in Franklin CoVA.

Number of Bates marriages in this timeframe in
Franklin Co. where Bateses have not be identified
with certainty:

In 1787, Lucy Bates m. John Renfro
In 1790, Hannah Bates m. Charles Bradshaw.  
     John Bates Surety.
In 1793, Daniel Bates m. Lydia Bradshaw
In 1798, Sarah Bates m. Moses Bradshaw

In 1793, William Bates m. Elizabeth Harris,
     dau., John Harris;  Surety JONAS TURNER.
In 1800, Eliza. Bates m. Rolen Harris

Trust you had good stay in a warmer climate.    
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More in 2ND TRY - 2nd part



Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:09:22 -0500
From: NCreed@aol.com
To: 102125.3126@compuserve.com, 72650.74@compuserve.com,
    ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu, ALABAMA233@aol.com, BKeys26433@aol.com,
    BLACK@globe.com, burnett@kaizen.net, cgaunt@umich.edu,
    ChickFlet@aol.com, chlamy@acpub.duke.edu, connie.spaw@cbis.com,
    davidcon@microsoft.com, dfullam@albany.net, DP6195@aol.com,
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    mlsaps@mcn.net, N4JED@aol.com, NCreed@aol.com, PWhetzel@aol.com,
    rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us, ross@interramp.com, shauck@d.umn.edu,
    waddiesalmon@usa.pipeline.com, WittBates@aol.com
Subject: TURNER-BURNETT-VIA-ETC #4 - 2ND TRY- 2nd part

Subj:     Re: TURNER
Date:     96-02-11 12:45:57 EST
From:     mlsaps@mcn.net
To:  NCreed@aol.com

Nyla,
...Yes I have been able to add a little more to my line because
of the list. In the original posting of mine I didn't know where
George TUrner was born. I know have found out that he was born
about 1780 in NC. So I have been "talking" with Mary about her NC
line. Shadrack had a son William had a son George b 1776. That
would have made him 23 when he married Susannah Adams.
Also the fact that Shadrack was a landowner in Halifax Co, VA.
The same county that my George and Susannah were married in and
Susannah was born there.  Alos found out that Susannah's parents
were Richard and Hannah Boyd and Hannah's parents were Goerge and
Amy Boyd. Richard was b in Halifax Co, VA in 1762 and married in
1781. George Boyd died in 1803 in Halifax Co, VA and
at that time Richard Adams was dead but Hannah (Boyd) Adams was
still living. Also learned that Susannah died in 1840 in
Humphreys Co, TN. 

Mary had a query from a Hawkins Co, TN magazine that had a query
on my Carter Turner. I was able to take a 11 year old query, find
a current address, and called her yesterday. She still lives in
KY and her and my grandmother and her are second cousins. She was
able to connect up my grandma and her long lost cousin that she
played with as a child in KY and hasn't heard from her since
1966. Boy was she happy :) All do to u and your list. Thanks so
much for your effort an dtime u spend doing this :) :) :) 


At 08:27 AM 2/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 96-02-09 17:33:25 EST, you write:
>>>haven't received any posts
>>since my computer crashed a few weeks ago. Did I get dropped
form the list?
>>Or have there not been any posts?
>
>Allison:
>
>You're still on the list!  
>I was in CA two weeks, and been back home only one week.  So
>I've not posted any additional TURNER-BURNETT-VIA-ETC
>compilations for some time.  I'm trying to get caught up, but am
>not moving as fast as I'd like.  

>If you've got anything more you'd like to share, send it my way. 
I think I've got almost enough for another mailing.
>BTW, has anyone been able to help you on your line as a result
of the compilation? 
>Nyla
===============================================================Subj:
    Family Tree
Date:     96-02-12 12:48:31 EST
From:     waddiesalmon@usa.pipeline.com (WADDIE SALMON)
To:  ncreed@aol.com

   My grandmother who died in 1976 was 98 and a Burnett.  I have
traces out tree from her back to a Williamson Burnett.  I have
compiled a LOT of information on them.  Mostly records from
Bedford County, Va.  Basically it is as follows: 
 
   AUGUSTA FRANCES BURNETT: b. 14 Nov 1880 in Bedford, Va., the
first of six children I know about.  M. Waddie B. Salmon on 27
Dec. 1899 in Bedford.

    AUSTIN BANKS BURNETT: b. 16 March 1850.  Died 19 October 1929
in Campbell Co., Va.  Married AUGUSTA FRANCES JACKSON.  Their
children: ELLIS MOORMAN, ROSA B., FRANCES ELIZABETH, NONA BURTON
and ALICE.  
    CHRISTOPHER AMMON BURNETT: b. 07 January 1810 in Bedford. 
Married ORPHY JANE LEFTWICH on 26 December 1829 in Bedford. 
Their children: AUSTIN BANKS (above), WILLIAM, JOSEPH, SARAH ANN,
BENJAMIN HENRY and ISAACC. 
    JAMES H. BURNETT: b. abt. 1792 in Buckingham Co., Va. 
Married Nancy Phelps.  Children: CHRISTOPHER AMMON (above). 
    WILLIAMSON BURNETT: b. abt 1753 or 63 in Buckingham County,
Va. Married NANCY PHELPS, 15 March 1792.  He died 03 June 1833 in
Bedford. 
   This is a very small part of what I have on Burnett.  I have a
lot of pages of records from Bedford.  Their courthouse NEVER
burned. 
    What is the best way for me to forward all this information? 
Hardcopy, a disk.  Either  way is not a problem?  I use Family
Tree Maker to compile all my information. 
    I e-mailed a couple of people about Burnetts' and they both
said I should get in touch with you as you are the compiler of a
lot of information on them. 
    Question:  Are you old enough to remember who Smiley Burnett
is? (Grin)
  My 82 year old aunt said when she was a little girl she came to
their house and spent the day as he was kin. 
  It's Monday, but have a good week.  Hope I can help. 
-- 
 
Waddie Salmon  
BM1 - USN - Ret.
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Subj:     BURNETT-TURNER-VIA-ETC #1
Date:     02/14/96
To:  waddiesalmon@usa.pipeline.com

Waddie:

Thanks for your mail.  In a message dated 96-02-12 12:48:31 EST,
you write:

>Question:  Are you old enough to remember who Smiley Burnett is?
(Grin)
>  My 82 year old aunt said when she was a little girl she came
to their
>house and spent the day as he was kin. 

You got me.  I have no idea who Smiley Burnett might be.  I
should have asked my mom when I talked to her on the phone last
night.  She's 83.  So who was Smiley?

>What is the best way for me to forward all this information?  

Let me tell you what I've been doing.  A lot of folks on line
were researching some Patrick-Henry Co VA surnames that I was
also searching.  So I volunteered to compile a mailing list for
several  lines--TURNERs, BURNETTs, VIAs, ETC/ETC from the
Patrick-Henry-Bedford-Franklin area of VA.  (The list has grown
and the info is flowing.)  I'm not looking for a lot of info,
just enough, that when someone else reads it they will know if
there might be a possible connection.

I'm take a look at your info from your mail message, bounce it
against mine, and see if we might have some mutual lines.   I'll
also copy your mail message to a document that I'm compiling of
other mail messages that I've recently received re these
families.  Within the next few days, I'll mail the entire
listing, 20 pages or so, to about 20 some people.  I suspect most
of these folks will scan it for connections and will get in touch
with the originator if they find a match.

To get you caught up with the rest of the folks, I'm going to
send you the BIG COMPILATION.  I think I originally sent about 3
small ones.  But Chris Gaunt put the BIG COMPILATION on
Compuserve.  So it should have it all.  I will send as a
ANSCI-DOS file.  If that doesn't work at your end, let me know
and I'll resend.

Looking forward to hearing from you.  Good luck.
Nyla

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Subj:     No Subject
Date:     96-01-19 20:45:27 EST
From:     rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Bob Hobson)
To:  NCreed@aol.com

Nyla Creed,

        I am looking for information about Jubal Turner.  He is
the father of Wahington Turner who was born in 1823 in Virginia,
probably Franklin Co.   I heard from Elizabeth Harris over the
internet that you had a summary of Turner information.  Do you
have anything that might help my search?
Thanks,  Bob Hobson
rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us

Dr. Bob Hobson, Principal
Rio Seco School
9545 Cuyamaca Street, Santee, CA  92071-2674
Tel.    (619) 258-2380
FAX     (619) 258-2249
V-Mail  (619) 258-2250 ext. 2445
e-mail  rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us
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Subj:     TURNER
Date:     96-02-08 00:05:21 EST
From:     rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Bob Hobson)
To:  NCreed@aol.com

Nyla Creed

        Just getting back to you in hopes that you may have some
information on my Turner relative.   I'm looking for information
on Jubal Turner, father of Washington Turner.  Washington Turner
was born in 1823 in Virginia.  He died 1889 in Newton Co.,
Missouri.  Washington's first wife was Eva Brubaker born 1825 in
Franklin Co., Virginia.  She died in 1862 in Elkart Co., Indiana. 
His second wife was Judith ?*.  Washington's children were:

Mary dob 18 Oct. 1846   dod 1876 married Mike Montgomery in 1867
Owen    dob 25 Dec 1849 dod 18 Feb 1934 married Cindarilla
Hopping 19 Oct 1873
Joel    dob 14 Dec 1851 dod?
Benjamin dob Jan 1853   dod ?
Nancy   dob 1855        dod 1875
Daniel  dob 1859        dod 1875
Christian       dob 1862        dod 1862
Samuel*  dob 25 July 1864    dod ?   married Rachel Brubaker 1904
Sarah*   dob April 1867  dod ?   married William Miller

Bob Hobson, Ed.D.
Principal
Rio Seco School
9545 Cuyamaca Street, Santee, CA  92071-2674
Tel.    (619) 258-2380
FAX     (619) 258-2249
V-Mail  (619) 258-2250 ext. 2445
e-mail  rhobson@sdcoe.k12.ca.us
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Subj:     TURNER
Date:     96-02-15 10:58:55 EST
From:     connie.spaw@CBIS.COM (Connie Spaw)
To:  NCreed@aol.com

Last week I made a trip to Falmouth library to look through
"Barton Papers" to research Evan Turner b. 1822, d Oct 1 1879.
There I found lots of information on Turners but much of it was
conflicting. Evan was listed as son of John Turner and Catherine
Lewis and grandson of Richard Turner; great grandson of
John Turner Sr. b. 1740 in Prince Frederick Maryland. On other
papers Evan was the son of Isaac (John  Turner's brother) and
Nancy Hook. Reading further, Evan's parents are listed as Richard
Turner and Minerva Ellis, with a brother Acey Turner.
At this point I'm totally confused and don't know how to sort
this out. 

Anyone working on this family or have suggestions how to find
Evan's true parents?
Thanks, Connie
connie.spaw@cbis.com

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Hope this worked for everyone.  Nyla
