Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:58:52 -0500 (EST)
From: ncreed <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Compilation #80 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via

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14 December 1996

Hello to Everyone,

     On 18 November, I challenged everyone to submit information
on their family so we would have 52 compilations by 25 December,
our first anniversary.   We certainly reached our goal.   A big
"Thank You" to Everyone.  

     It's been a week since the last compilation.  Although this
is a short one, I wanted to send this to everyone rather than
wait for more eMails.  

     Seasons Greetings to All.  Hope you have a Merry Christmas
and may the New Year bring good health, good friends, and
prosperity to you and your family.  

     Please continue to share your family information.   

                              Nyla

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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 17:28:57 -0500
From: Allen Richmond <tarich@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: tarich@ix.netcom.com
Organization: Scioto Publishing Ltd.
[mailto:sciotopublishing@usa.net]
[http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/1943]
To: Nyla Creed DePauk <ncreed@erols.com>
Subject: Fifth Cousins Once Removed? Not quite...

Hi Nyla:

Just waded through Comp 79, and will have to go back through it
again, since Shadrach Turner's mentioned (one of the connections
to my GOODEs), but I saw this note and thought I'd add my $.02
worth:

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EVELYN:  Based on my calculations, we are 5th cousins.  That's
pretty close kin.  Is this how you calcuate it?  You and my
children would be 5th cousins, once removed?  NYLA

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          Relationship between Nyla & Evelyn

Shadrack Turner                    Shadrack Turner
William Turner                     William Turner
Rev. John Turner         brothers  George Wilson Turner
John Burnett Turner, Sr.   1st C   Elizabeth Turner
Mary Jane (Turner) Dickens 2nd C   Martha Jane (Turner) King
Leota (Dickens) Williams   3rd C   George Whitfield Turner, Sr. 
Wilda (Williams) Creed     4th C   George Whitfield Turner, Jr.
Nyla Creed DePauk          5th C   Evelyn Beryl(Turner) Alexander

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"You and my children would be 5th cousins, once removed?" No, not
quite.  Your children and her children would be 6th cousins;
however, YOU and her children (or your children and Evelyn) would
be 5th cousins, once removed (one generation displaced from the
common connection). Anytime there's a displacement by a
generation (or more) is where the "X removed" comes in. So, for
example:

Tom      Bill     <- brothers with common ancestry
Mary     Jane     <- 1st cousins
Daniel   William  <- 2nd cousins
John              <- relationship to above?

But how does John fit into the picture? He's Bill's 3rd nephew,
Jane's 1st cousin twice removed (because there is a 2-generation
difference between himself and Jane), 2nd cousin once removed to
William (since there's only ONE generational level difference
between John & Wm), and thus, if William had children, they would
be John's 3rd cousin(s). The same formula works for *any*
generation working in *any* direction.  The only key to the great
mystery of "X removed" is knowing where the common generations
are, and how far away (# of generations) you are from the most
common connection point. 

Clear as mud?!?  :)

Really, it's an easy system that's been misconstrued a long way
from its original intent! Hope this clears some of that mystery
up, and if I haven't elucidated very well here, please let me
know and I'll send the full report on this! [Didn't want to choke
the lines, in case someone else beat me to the punch on this.
Overkill has its merits, but I think this might be the exception
here!]

Let me know how I can help more.
Thanks!
Cousin Allen

tarich@ix.netcom.com
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/1943   (Scioto County Genealogy)
Researching:
BAKER, COTTLE, DAVIS, FLEMING, GOODE, HALTERMAN, 
HATFIELD, LAIR, RICHMOND, UTZLER, WELCH, WHALEY & WYATT
Son of:
 Martha Cottle (1947-now) & Alfred Richmond (1943-1979)
  Pearl Cottle (1923-now) & Zelma Cottle (1925-now)
   William Cottle (1890-1953) & Mary Wyatt (1895-1954)
    Dewey Wyatt (1873-1940) & Nancy Goode (1878-1928)
     Levi Goode (1856-1929) & Sarah Mitchell (?-?)
      David Goode (1819-1910) & Nancy Thomas (1821-1891)
       Jacob Goode (1793-1887) & Alice Mullens (1800-?)
        David Goode (1740-1819) & Elizabeth Waltz (?-?)

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ALLEN:
     I agree with your explanation.  That's the same way I calculated
it, too.  But I still stand behind my comment.   Here it is again:

>EVELYN:  Based on my calculations, we are 5th cousins.  That's
>pretty close kin.  Is this how you calcuate it?  You and my
>children would be 5th cousins, once removed?  NYLA

     Since I didn't know if Evelyn had children, I didn't mention
her children.  However, if I had said "Your children and my children", 6th
cousins would be correct.  
                 Nyla 

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From: JJKALI@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:11:29 -0500
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: Re: Compilation #79 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc

HI Nyla - sorry for the mixup.  Yes, I do have the children, etc.
but have not been able to locate any siblings for him.  There is
a good possibility that he came from MA and  is a desc. of
Humphrey Turner.  In the Humphrey Turner line of desc. two of his
sons desc. carried the name Elisha Turner from one gen. to the
next, thus, it makes it very confusing to track.  Will get it
together and post it.  June Turner Kalipolites

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From: GDBurnette@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:55:41 -0500
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: Re: Compilation #79 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc

Nyla, does it cost a bunch to get a Maiser list ? Have you
considered that instead of the compilations?  Might be easier for
you ... not sure.  Maybe others would help with the
administration...  Gary 

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GARY:  I have no knowledge of Maiser lists.  Perhaps Chris can
answer your questions.  Nyla

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