Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:43:34 -0500
From: ncreed <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Compilation #96 - Burnett, Turner, Ross, Via, Etc/Etc

27 March 1997

Hello to Everyone this beautiful Spring day:

A special welcome to the new "cousins".  If you haven't done so
already, check out all our compilations on Chris Gaunt's home
page.  The address is:

     http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt

Several of our "cousins" have homepages.  Sharon tells us about
her homepage below.  Check it out. I found it very helpful.  Lots
of links to other homepages.

Have a wonderful Easter.

Nyla CREED DePauk

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:15:52 -0600
From: Sharon Crawford <scburn1@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: scburn1@earthlink.net
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: Burnetts Homepage

Nyla,

Never thought about sending in info about my homepage. It is at
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6432  "My Burnett Line" also
you will find a link to my FTM page which has an 18 page report
on "Burnetts and Related Families" with birth, death, spouse and
marriage dates.

Sharon Burnett Crawford
-- 
mailto:scburn1@earthlink.net
Burnett*Wright: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6432
Crawford*Gosser: http://home.earthlink.net/~scburn1/
Pontotoc Co. Oklahoma usgenweb page:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpontot/pontotoc.htm
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BURNETT*WRIGHT*CRAWFORD*GOSSER*UNDERWOOD*JOHNSON*UPTON*ALLEN
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Date: 22 Mar 97 11:41:14 EST
From: "Philip A. Turner" <72650.74@CompuServe.COM>
To: Nyla Creed <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Mayflower: John Turner

Hi Nyla,

     I'm volunteering as a Mayflower expert, until a real expert
comes along.   :-)

     The Turner family that came to the Plymouth Colony in 1620
did not survive the first winter.  If you remember from high
school history, the first winter was one of famine and about half
of the colonists perished.

   I have a Mayflower ancestor, Edward Doty, but my Turner
ancestors came at another time and on another ship.

                     Phil Turner
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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:39:04 -0800
From: Ricky L Burnett <ttenrubr@ptw.com>
Reply-To: ttenrubr@ptw.com
To: "P. Light" <plight@fsi.net>
CC: Nyla Creed <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Martha A Burnett ancestors

Peggy,
This is what I have found:
1.John Burnett I m. Lucretia ?
 2.John Burnett II m. Amy Gatewood
  3.Jeremiah Burnett Sr m. 1.Mary McDaniel 2.Rebecca Browne
   4.Jeremiah Burnett II m. 2 or 3 times last wife Rosa
    5.William Burnett Sr m. Elizabeth
     6.William Burnett Jr m. Gartha Thompson
      7.Henry Burnett m. Mary "Polly" Hall
       8.Martha A Burnett never married had 4 children
        9.John Burnett
There is a lot more information in the Bork Books The Burnett's
and their Connections.   When I get more time I will send you all
the information I can find.  Most of the information is in the
first volume.  I am in the middle of purchsing a new home and
moving so it may be a while before I can get you more info.

Ricky Lane Burnett

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X-Sender: Pat-Chesney@hobby.easy.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 16:39:25 -0600
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
From: Pat-Chesney@easy.com (Pat Chesney)
Subject: Mayflower Turner

To help on the Mayflower question -any research on those Turners
on the Mayflower -

I've pasted on to this letter some copies of info I was given
over last couple of years on the Turners that were on the famous
Mayflower boat.

The following is from Mayflower Increasings - 2nd Edition by
Susan E. Roser

Govenor Bradford's list of Mayflower passengers -

-John Turner, and 2 sons; he had a daughter came some years after
to Salem, where she was living at the time list was made.
_______________

They do give the name of the town he came from before the trip,
being Leyden, Holland of the Netherlands.  We forgot to write
down the name of the book that we got this info. out of, but will
try to find it the next time we go.  This is what was written: 
John Turner (with wife) and 2 sons came to Plymouth and are
classed with the Leyden contingent.  All died in the first
winter, but a daughter came some years after to Salem and married
there.(Bradford) Her identity has not been established.  In 1592
a John Turner sold a messuage in Doncaster to William Bradforth
and it is probable that the Mayflower Pilgrim was of the original
Pilgrim band in 1610 emigrating to Leyden with Bradford and
Brewster.  John Turner, a merchant, was admitted burgess of
Leyden that year. 

A John Turner was married at Whitechapel in 1615, where later
Stephen Hopkins took a second wife.  Several persons connected
with the Pilgrims lived in that parish. end.  This could be him
if it was a second marriage.  In another book it said that the
children with no names given on the roster were under the age of
20.
____________________________
The part about (with wife) is wrong according to other research.
_________________________
One book showed the name of his daughter (Signers of the
Mayflower Compact) as Marjorie who married the first Richard Paul
in 1638.  They place her in Salem, Mass. This article also states
the possibility that the tradition in one family is that the son
or grandson of John Turner, Mayflower Pilgrim, was one of the
first settlers in New Haven, Conn.  His name was Nathaniel
Turner. One of descendants, a first settler of Hartford,
Conn.-from there John Turner also a descendant - went to Norfolk,
Conn. and was one of the first settlers there about 1758.

In connection with the above, there is some Pilgrim evidence in
the fact that the Windsor, Conn., Browns who are supposed to
descend from Peter Brown, went as was natural under such
circumstances, to Hartford and Norfolk, Conn., as well, with the
Turners.  The author's attention was called to "Historical
Collections of Grantham, England," by Edward Tunour, Grantham,
southwestern part of Lincolnshire.
____________________________
Humphrey Turner had a son named Nathaniel.
______________________________

Other mention of Turner family -
Humphrey Turner's son -John-
John Turner (b. probably Essex, England; d. between Mar. 4, 1695
and May 20, 1697 in Scituate) married Nov. 10/12, 1645
Mary Brewster (b. Apr. 16, 1627, Plymouth; d. after Mar. 23,
1697/8 probably in Scituate
_____________________

What I have learned in my research about the Turners on the
Mayflower besides the above is that the Mayflower society doesn't
recognize any descendants of the John Turner on the Mayflower in
their society.  Which I am sure many have over the years tried to
get to be a part of. Perhaps with better research in the future
there might be  a change in that but as of right now that is
still the case to my understanding.  It is possible that
John Turner had sons left behind in England that came over later
since he had a daughter that did. But there is no known record of
it at this point.

Humphrey Turner arrived a few years after the famous Mayflower on
another ship named mayflower and he had a son named John actually
two of them. One called John the elder and one called John the
younger. There are records of these Turners and their
descendants. One of the John's married Mary Brewster the
granddaughter of William Brewster and through her the Turners
become descendants of the Mayflower people.  I have the family 
line of governor of NC in 1803 James Turner from Humphrey down to
him and his children.

My ancestor William Suddarth Turner claimed kinship to Gov James
Turner and descent from the Mayflower. At this point all I have
been able to find is that William's cousin Rhoda Turner married a
grandson Jacob Davis of James Turner the governor. And I have
discovered James Turner's family line down from Humphrey and his
son John that married Mary Brewster. 

I think it is highly probable that Humphrey was related to the
John Turner on the Mayflower but there is no record of it that I
know of.  If it were possible to research more about how the
Mayflower John's daughter came to America and with what people
she was connected then possibly more could be learned about this
famous Turner family.

I also read that he John Turner on the Mayflower was a widow and
know that those Mayflower people remarried quickly when they had
young children so he probably lost his wife not long before the
trip. I feel sure that his sons were under age 12 to not have
their names recorded and feel sure he would not have taken a very
young child under say four yrs of age without a wife or related
female relative to help on such a dangerous voyage. And since
children came quite regularly every two years after marriage in
those days - that he had two sons with him age probably five to
ten and a daughter left behind leaves room for the possiblity
that there was another child or two. That's my opinion :)

Terri

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From: Arlyn99@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:24:52 -0500 (EST)
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: TURNER 

Nyla,

I got directed to you by Eunice, ekirkman@swva.net, regarding my
TURNER search.

I am looking for anything on ancesters/descendants of:
Elisha E. TURNER, born 1 Oct 1788, died 1873; one source
indicated that he was the son of Zadoc(k) TURNER and (Eliza.?)
MAGBY, however, another says that none of the research shows that
connection, so... Elisha was married about 1815 to Rachel WHITE,
born about 1790.  son, Samuel White TURNER, born 13 December
1815, died 1902, married to spouse (2) before 1871, Delphia Ann
FANNIN(G), born 23 February 1834, died 17 October 1928,
son, Martin Luther TURNER, born 6 April 1871, died 7 November
1956, married 25 June 1894, to Rosa Lee ENSOR (questionable, as
this was her mother's maiden name!), born 25 June 1878, died 22
February 1965, son, Silas Benjamin TURNER, born 27 May 1903, died
13 June 1989, married 25 October 1943 to spouse (2) Neatta Maria
WELCH, born 20 March 1914, died 29 April 1996, son, Arlyn Welch
TURNER, me.

Eunice indicated that you have a mailing list for those looking
for TURNERs and others.  How do I get on this list?  Is it e-mail
or regular mail?

I am still new to much of this, so I need all the assistance I
can get!

My e-mail addresses are:  Arlyn99@aol.com
                          Arlyn99@juno.com

My regular mail address is:  Arlyn W. Turner
                             P O Box 2091
                             West Sacramento, California
                             95691-7091

Any information I have is readily available to those who can
utilize it.

Thanks,

Arlyn 
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Subject: FW: Your Query re Pleasants

Hello all,

Some information re Pleasants who married into Suddarth line.
Nat Turner

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From:  jonesc@sprynet.com
Sent:  Tuesday, March 25, 1997 9:52 AM
To:  Nat Turner
Subject:  Re: Your Query re Pleasants

Nat,

Your Pleasants are related, though a different branch.  They are
the offspring of Richard Pleasants who married Anne Porter. 
Richard was son of Joseph Pleasants and grandson of John
Pleasants, the emigrant.  The Pleasants line I'm tracing is
through Richard's older brother, Joseph who married Sarah Goode
(1) and then Elizabeth Woodson.

Thanks for your reply

Christine

On Tue, 25 Mar 97, "Nat Turner" <naturn@msn.com> wrote:
>Hi Christine,
>I picked up your query re Pleasants on GENNAM-L.  You might
check my website, 

>http://www.naturn.com, where I have a few Pleasants and Woodsons
in my TURNER database.  I do not have enough information to
connect them to the Pleasants you list, but I would bet that they
are related.  My Suddarth ancestor married Margaret Pleasants in
Goochland Co., VA.  An extract of my only Pleasants is below: 
>
>Descendants of Richard Pleasants
>                   
>    1    Richard Pleasants        
>.....    2    Margaret Patsy Pleasants      
>.........          +William Suddarth   b: 2 Feb 1745/46 in VA   
                    d: 1832
>............  3    William H. Suddarth b: 1804   
>............  3    James W. Suddarth        
>............  3    Sarah "Sally" Suddarth        d: Aft Nov 1873
>................        +Robert. D. Porterfield       
>............       *2nd Husband of Sarah "Sally" Suddarth:      
>................        +W. Page       
>............  3    Martha R. "Patsey" Suddarth        
>................        +Richard Littleford      
>............  3    Richard Pleasants? Suddarth, Capt. b: ABT 
                    1800 d: ABT  Nov 1893 in Albemarle Co., VA
>................        +Martha "Patsy" Monro/Morris?      
>...................     4    Sarah Suddarth      
>.......................      +Henry ????         
>...................     4    Jane Suddarth       
>.......................      +John Toole    b: in prob Wash. DC 
>...................     4    Martha Suddarth          
>.......................      +John Mann          
>...................     4    William Suddarth         
>.......................      +???? McCutchin          
>...................     4    James Suddarth      
>...................     4    LeGrand Suddarth         
>............  3    Nancy Suddarth      
>................        +W. Diggs      
>............  3    Elizabeth D. "Betsy" Suddarth      
>................        +Dice Detts         
>............  3    Mildred Suddarth         
>................        +William Page       
>......   2    ???? Pleasants      
>............  3    John Hampden Pleasants, Esq.       
>
>Offshoots of a number of these VA families, including several of
mine, migrated to TN and KY in the lates 1700s.  I am not sure
whether the Pleasants are one of those families, but I would not
be surprised.  

>By the way, as you may have guessed, I am not related to the
famous Nat Turner.  My Turner ancestors were all named Thomas,
John, etc. until one of them married a daughter of Nathaniel
Parker just before the Civil War.  

>Good luck in your search.
>Nat Turner

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:10:44 -0800 (PST)
X-Sender: waddie@earthlink.net
To: ncreed@EROLS.COM
From: "Bos'n Mate" <waddie@earthlink.net>
Subject: BURNETT UPDATE #3

Hi Cuzins!

Here I am again!  Been VERY busy finding more cuzins than you can
shake a stick at!  A BIG part of it is due to the work and effort
of NYLA and CHRIS!  A BIG, BIG cyber-hug (((((NYLA & CHRIS)))))
to them both.  I think all will agree they deserve one!

I have updated information on the following kin people.  If you
can add to, find a mistake, or have a question PLEASE email me. 
I have a lot more info coming soon and in greater detail.

ELLIS MOORMAN BURNETT - Son of AUSTIN BANKS BURNETT

AUSTIN BANKS BURNETT - Son of CHRISTOPHER AMMON BURNETT

NONA BURTON BURNETT - Daughter of AUSTIN BANKS BURNETT

Good hunting!
Cuzin Waddie

SALMON FAMILY GENEALOGY
http://www.geocities/Heartland/3348/

SALMON - BURNETT - MASON - CARWILE
HUDSON - SPROUSE - MINNICK - SOWELL
REYNOLDS

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WADDIE:  Thanks for the BIG, BIG cyber-hug.  It's folks like you
that make this list work.  Nyla

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