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Subject: Compilation #11 - TURNER, BURNETT, VIA, ROSS, ETC/ETC
27 Apr 1997
Hello to Everyone.
Again, there's at least one or two new folks on our list. A
special welcome to each of you. I hope there's some information
in this issue that will be of specific interest to someone. I an
enjoying all the information that is being shared on our mutual
surnames.
I am sending our eleventh compilation by a local provider
(Erols) that I'm using now. If there's a problem reading it,
just let me know. I still have the AOL account, but am trying to
phase it out.
Nyla Creed DePauk
Vienna VA
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Subj: Terisha Turner and family
Date: 96-04-14 02:21:08 EDT
From: Pat-Chesney@easy.com (Pat Chesney)
To: NCreed@aol.com
Hi, Nyla,
My sister called me last night long distance very happy to report
she had found out our William S. Turner was really William
Suddarth Turner and she was finding lots of info about his family
line. I went to the library today and discovered more and have
been writing to Jo who has more along this line but has not
gotten back with me yet. She is going to mail some things
to me. But I wanted to post what I have found to the Turner
newsletter. Hope everyone isn't tired of me. But I am real
excited to have some break throughs after a year of searching!
Terisha Turner married Sarah Wimpey - I'll put her family line
first.
Wimpeys
John Wimpey and wife Mary (found in 1718 in Essex Co. Records
and in Caroline Co. Records in 1741-46, found in 1750 in
Lunenburg Co - bought land there)
John Wimpey (d. 1761) and wife Mary (d. between 1756-61)
children
1)David
2) John Jr. (d. 1752) mar Eleanor Byrom - daughter of James Byrom
of Essex Co.
1) Henry Wimpey
2) Elizabeth Wimpey
3) Sarah mar Terisha Turner (no records of his parents or place
of birth or date of b.-it is suggested maybe he came from
Caroline Co because the Wimpeys did and he might have met his
wife there.)
Terisha Turner and Sarah Wimpey
children
1) Mary Turner mar James London (1740-1827)
2) James Turner mar Rebecca Hamner - daughter of William Hamner
and Elizabeth Henley
James died in 1806 leaving a large family (for more info
see Jo Thiesen) jogt@aol.com
1) James mar Lucy Ham (James died in Sumner Co. Tenn)
1) Elizabeth Turner mar Simpson Payne
1) Lucy Ham Payne
3) Stephen Turner mar Sarah Hamner (sister of Rebecca H.)
recieves land from his father in will in Granville Co. NC
4)JOHN TURNER mar MILDRED SUDDARTH - daughter of James and
Patience Suddarth of Albermarle Co. early settler there along
with his brother William Suddarth. Had two other children besides
Mildred - William and James Suddarth. John Turner had 519 acres
on Fry branch of Amhurst Co. and later moved to Ky.
1) Terisha mar Polly Dalton
2) William Suddarth Turner mar Elizabeth P. Smith (see
below)
3) John
4) Sally mar William Caffery (over phone didn't get spelling
right I'm sure)
5) Betsey mar Moses Turner (another case of Turner mar Turner
-happened a lot in Turner family)
5) Henry - lived on Porrage Creek in Amhurst co. Some of Henry's
children moved to Ky
6) William b. 1760 Albermale Co.
7) Sarah mar Stovall move to Ky
8) George
William Suddarth Turner born in Virginia in 1790
married Elizabeth P. Smith
children
1) William Turner
2) Calvin Smith Turner (born 1826 in Tenn, age 24 in 1850 Texas
census)
3) Lucinda Turner
4) Issac Hardin Turner
5) John Preston Turner (age 17 yrs in 1850 census)
6) Mary Mildred Turner
7) George Turner ? (Age 5 yrs in their household in 1850 census)
neither of the girls appeared in any census my sister Jeanne
looked at.
Not possitive on birth order - esp guessing on girls and guessing
George is William and Elizabeth's son because he is in the
household in 1850 census. Could be an older childs son too I
guess.
I descend from Calvin Smith Turner who mar Amanda Tucker daughter
of Eziekel and Ashbel Tucker.
Calvin's daughter
Annie Turner mar Gustave West Edmund Clark. Their daughter
Marguarite Clark mar Martin Duck Morris. Their daughter
Mildred Morris mar Hollis Bertchell Smith. Their son
Morris Bertchell Smith mar Frankie Jean Rhodes. Their
daughter
me Terri Smith mar Pat Chesney and we have five
children.
Terisha Turner is my 6th great grandfather! If anyone can help
with any of these family lines I'm going for the next generation!
And especially if anyone can help me find this family's
connection with James Turner governor of NC. I found that James
Turner's family was from Maryland before going to Virginia.
Thanks for any help in advance.
Take care and God bless you!
Terri Chesney
Pat and Terri Chesney
Rt. 5 Box 895 E
Waco, Texas 76705
fax: (817)-829-0251
phone: (817)-829-0153
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Subj: Some TURNER bits & pieces..
Date: 96-04-15 09:40:47 EDT
From: BLACK@globe.com (TERRI x2759)
To: NCreed@aol.com
CC: Pat-Chesney@easy.com
Nyla & Terri,
I'm sending this to both of you (so Nyla can throw these tidbits
out to the group & so Terri knows that I haven't fallen off the
edge of the earth in the past couple of weeks!) I was finally
able to steal a chunk of time from my work-kids-&everybody else &
make it to the National Archives for a couple of hours last week.
To fill the 'group' in, Terri & I (yes I'm a Terri, too) both
have Hardin Turners that are giving us a tough go of it. We lose
one in Tx & one in Tn, and believe they both came from NC, but
have yet to verify that.
Someone was kind enough to send me the following from the 1860
census index CD:
Hardin Turner is listed in Henry Co, VA; Martinsville P.O., page
60. I found him on reel #1354 of the 1860 census. This Hardin
Turner is 4 years old in 1860, listed as being Mulatto, and is
enumerated with either a STULTS or STALTS family (the writing
was tough to read). In case this rings a bell with anyone else
out there, here's the rest of that family:
STULTS, Thomas 60 white M, farmer
" , Mary 45
" , George 25 " ", Laborer
" , Achilles 23 " "
" , Thomas 20 " "
" , Susan 17
Turner, Hardin 4 mulatto M
Hardin Turner is listed in Rockingham Co. NC Grogansville PO, p.
207. I know it is 1860 census reel 912. Most of the pages for
Rockingham Co, NC on the reel of microfilm that I had were
completely washed out. There was absolutely no way to read
anything on this page!! I know that there has to be a copy
out there somewhere that someone can read (otherwise, none of
this info would've made it to the census cd). If anyone has
acces to a better copy of this info & gets a chance to check on
it, please let Terri & I know!!
Hardy B. Turner is listed in Lenoir Co. NC, Pinkhill PO, p. 24.
This is 1860 census reel #904. Here is the info from that page:
NUN, James 54 white M born NC
TURNER, Hardy B. 28 white M born NC
NOBLE, Elizabeth 31 white F born NC
NUN, Piercy A. 46 white F born NC
", Joseph H 23 white M
", Benj. F 22 " "
", Jake J. 17 " "
", Henry 16 " "
", Nannie 14 " F
", John 13 " M
", William 11 " "
", James 10 " "
(all born in NC)
Needless to say I was a bit disappointed as none of the above
yielded any answers to my questions. I spent about an hour
longer (until they kicked me out at closing time), looking
through the 1870 Marshall Co Tn microfilm. I believe that's
where my Hardin Turner was in 1870. I made it as far as
page 85 & here are the tidbits that I found:
TURNER, R E 43 white M born Tn
", Mary 38 white F
", Belle 18
", L?? 14 white M
", Sarah 11
", James 9
", Robert E. 3
", Mollie 4/12
GANT, R B 53 white M, Farmer
TURNER C. ?. 35 white F
TURNER, W. L. white M Farmer
", ? E. 27 white F (oops W. L. above was 24)
", ? 2 white F
", ? 1/12 white F
TURNER, H (or M) 22 white M, farmer
", Jane 20 white F
ROBINSON, L.D. 26 white M, farmer
Again all of these were from Marshall Co, TN 1870 census. I
apologize for all of the ?, but some of the handwriting just had
my eyes popping out of my head!! I hope this helps someone out
there. I'll try to get back to the archives again this week &
pickup where I left off.
Terri
black@globe.com
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Subj: ABRAHAM TURNER/LEWIS
Date: 96-04-15 14:34:16 EDT
From: mcclaran@ionet.net (McClaran)
To: NCreed@aol.com
Hello! I received some pages of the "Pioneer Lewis Families" by
Michael Cook and found it to contain some TURNER names & info.
VOL. IV:
<start page 50>
It is probably this John LEWIS who was the head right of Col.
George READE in a patent dated March 3, 1657/58 for land in
Westmoreland County (now Stafford), South side of the Potomac
River, adjoining Col. Sam MATTHEWS and the Quantecot (Quantico)
River, being land granted to Capt. Nicholas MARTEAU on Oct. 25,
1654 and deserted for want of seating. In York County records
(Wills-Deeds-Orders 1657-59, p. 46A) a certificate of this
landpatent was granted READE and also mentions John LEWIS as head
right. Note above that Samuel MATTHEWS an Col. George READE had
been Justices on York County. It is probably also the same man as
the John LEWIS who was head right for Thomas WILKINSON "above the
head of Potoamc Creek, beg. Westernmost corner of land of Mr.
MERRIWETHER now in the posession of Nicholas RUSSELL" on June 10,
1658, and the head right of Henry CORBIN on Sept. 15, 1658 (N.E.
side of Mattaponi River about 25 miles up the great swamp). Thus
by Sept. 1658 he was back almost in the area from which he had
started in March.
The names of Mitchell and TURNER are pertinent in future LEWIS
activities. One MITCHELL-TURNER-LEWIS relationship by proximity
can be shown in the York County Court Order (VA) of July 25,
1646: "The Court doth order according to an Act of Assembly that
John HANDSFORD and Robert LEWIS for Hampton Parish, Samuel SALLES
and Jeffery POWER for Yorke p'ish (note that the patent for
John LEWIS [9L001] on Poropotanke Creek was adjoining land there
of Samuel SOLLACE in 1653); Edward MITCHELL and Abraham TURNER
for Poquoson Parish, shall take a perfect list of all the
tytheable p'spms in ye s'd sev'rall p'ish, as alsoe of all cows
of three years old, horses, mares and geldingsof three years old
& upwards, sheep, goates, and that ye p'form ye smae and
deliver ye s'd list to ye sherriffe, by ye 25 of this June, and
that everyman's name be taken p'ticularly."
Abraham TURNER is believed to have been the father of James
TURNER, and if not the father of Nicholas TURNER and Zachary
TURNER, of some relation, possibly brothers of Abraham. Araham
TURNER is found in a patent dated October 10, 1642 when he
acquired 200 acres on Mockjack Bay, N.E. side of the Ware River,
adjoining Debnam, Creedle, and Turner's Creek, in Gloucester
County. He was deceased by 1649 in York County.
If we follow John LEWIS's progress by means of the land patents
in which he was a head of right, we see that he was first from
York County, to an area south of the Potomac River and near
Quantico Creek (Stafford County now), and then returned to the
New Kent (now King & Queen) County area, closely following the
path of Major William LEWIS and at aout the same times.
In a patent dated November 8, 1658, John LEWIS and James TURNER
were granted 1000 acres of "sunken land and marsh called Lewis
Island" in New Kent County (now Hanover), bounded by the Pamunkey
River and south by Pouncey's Creek, the creek being the dividing
line between this land and the land of John POUNCEY. Again John
LEWIS has followed Major William LEWIS, why by this date had
acquired Chemokins from Col. John WEST and was most probably
living there; this would have been very close, if not adjoining,
the Chemokins plantation. (In 1653, Major William LEWIS was
granted land of John POUNCEY and N.W. to Chohoake (Cohoke) Creek,
near or adjacent to land that Col. William CLAIBORNE acquired
which was 5000 acres at Pamunkey River on N.S. of freshes of York
River bounded East by Mattadecum Creek and on South side of
York River and the marshes and on the West side with Cohoake
Creek also in 1653; note that Chemokins was later divided by a
parish line which separated St. Pauls Parish and St. Peters
Parish, the sameline used later to divide the newly formed
Hanover County form New Kent County, and the line followed
the Mattadecum Creek).
In a patent dated January 15, 1662, John LEWIS and Thomas
MITCHELL were granted 1680 acres, New Kent County, beginning at
Mitchell's line, thence to Col. GOOCH's, by the Westover path.
This tract, south of Chemokins area, was later relinquished by
LEWIS to MITCHELL on February 28, 1672, as evidenced by a patent
to MITCHELL dated Feb. 28, 1682/83 "eginning at Mr. Robert
JARRETT by Westover path, by an Indian field, to tree in county
line (apparently boundary between New Kent and Henricho County),
near a branch of Skimino, by Lancelot BATHURST's fence, by
Towwink Swamp, part of sd. land granted to him January 15, 1662
and the other part to John LEWIS and LEWIS sold his title to
MITCHELL and acknowledged same in county court of New
Kent, Feb. 28, 1672."
<end page 50>
<start page 51>
It is interesting to note that on Mar. 14, 1664 James TURNER is
shown on the southside of freshes of Pamunkey River adjoining
Captain Anthony LANGSTONE in the main swamp of Totopotomoy Creek,
with Richard LITTLEPAGE, and also on Mar. 24, 1663 in grant chich
mentions Mattadecum Creek. Note the proximity to Totopotomoy
Creek to Major LEWIS's Chemokins plantation; this was property
later occupied by David CRAWFORD and was most probably adjoining
Chemokins.
[note form Karen: the LITTLEPAGE family is intermarried with the
LEWIS family according to Hayden's "Virginia Genealogies"]
To furhter identify the land that John LEWIS and James TURNER
patented in 1658, we need to take a close look at the activity of
James TURNER. In the area we are discussing, James TURNER
acquired 800 acres on S.side of York River, in the Narrows,
adjoining lands of Mr. Joseph CROSHAW, John BUTLER, and
"Mackadequin Creek" in July 17, 1653, for transportation of 16
persons.
On Nov. 6, 1658, TURNER was partner with John LEWIS, as stated,
on land that bounded with John POUNCEY. On Mar. 14, 1663/64,
James TURNER in partnership with Richard LITTLEPAGE, was granted
the 400 acres mentioned adjoining Capt. LANGSTONE in the main
swamp of Totopotomoy Creek. On Mar. 24, 1663/64, Richard
LITTLEPAGE and James TURNER acquired another 1143 acres, New Kent
County, on south side freshes of the Pamunkey River, beginning at
"an ancient development of sd. TURNER and Capt. Anthony
LANGSTONE's path, Whitings Swamp, and Matterdam (Mattadecum)
Creek, for transporting 23 persons. On June 7, 1666, Cornelious
DABNEY was granted 640 acres of land on hte lower side of
Totopotomoys Creek, beginning at upper line of land of Mr.
LITTLEPAGE adn James TURNER. On Mar. 29, 1666 Charles LOVEING
acquired 350 acres adjacent to Richard LITTLEPAGE and James
TURNER, Capt. LANGSTONE's back line, in New Kent Co. And on June
17, 1670, James TURNER patented 786 acres in New Kent Co. on both
sides of the Horse Path to Matrexem (Mattadecum) and upon upper
side of Whyting's Branch.
On Oct. 8, 1672, David CRAFFORD (CRAWFORD) patented 1000 acres on
branches of Mattadecum Creek, adjacent to John POUNCEY's land,
crossing Little Creek. (Note: this would have been adjoining the
Chemokins plantation; David CRAWFORD called his plantation
"Asequin" or "Esoquan" in various patents, an adapation of the
Indian name "Asiskewincke". Note that Major William LEWIS
had land next to Asiskewincke.) John POUNCEY acquired 800 acres
on lower side of Mattadecum Creek and by land of John GETAWAY on
June 9, 1666 (among those transported as head rights were Abraham
IVERSON and William ADDISON; Abraham IVERSON was earlier shown on
the S.W. side of North River in Mockjack Bay, Gloucester Co.,
dividing land from land of Thomas CHAPMAN and George LEVITT, June
10, 1651). This land was later desrted and regranted to William
WINSTON and John ENGELBRECHT on April 28, 1691.
On Sept. 28, 1681, John LANGSTONE(e) acquired 1316 acres in New
Kent beginning at mouth of a small swampo on S. side of York
River, dividing this from land of Sir Philip HONEYWOOD; corner to
Moses DAVIS, near the Horse Road, below the mountains, adjoining
John FLEMING, Thomas GLASS and James TURNER. John LANGSTON
assigned to William TAYLO (TAYLOE) on Oct. 28, 1681 this tract,
who assigned July 28, 1682 to David CRAWFORD. David CRAWFORD
patented this land as "Esoquan Plantation". (Note:the will of
Moses DAVIS is in the Brock Collection of the Huntington Library,
San Marino, CA., in which one of the legatees is Margaret
CRAWFORD, his daughter. Land on "Tattapotomoy" Creek is devised
to his wife and to daughter Pheobe. Richard LITTLEPAGE was named
as one of the overseers of the will, dated Feb. 2, 1687/88 in New
Kent Co. and probated Aug. 2, 1688.)
Note that the land acquired by John LEWIS with James TURNER, and
the lands acquired by Major William LEWIS (Chemokins, and smaller
tracts), are THE ONLY LAND GRANTS TO ANY LEWIS that would fall
within present Hanover Co. until well after 1700.
The St. Paul's Parish Records, (printed, p.215), state, for Mar.
14, 1708/09, thus: "The lands of David CRAWFORD, Gent., Maj.
Nicholas MERIWETHER, Thomas ANDERSON, John HILL, Edward CHAMBERS,
John LEWIS, and Margaret ARISS, lying adjacent to each other,
being made one precinct. of ehich the sadi David CRAWFORD and
Nicholas MERIWETHER were appointedoverseers." (This would be
David CRAWFORD, JR. and Councilor John LEWIS, in 1709.)
The exact date of death of Major William LEWIS cannot be
setermined, but there is little doubt that Major John LEWIS was
the beneficiary of his estate. Chemokins palntation would, thus,
be in his possession, although there is nothing to suggest that
he resided there as a permanent resident; there seems no doubt
that he maintained it in an absentee-landlord
<end page 51>...basis, operating this plantation by means of
overseers and managers, and a gang of slave labor. <end>
Karen K. Hogue McClaran of Oklahoma
mcclaran@ionet.net or kmcclar@okstate.edu
Coordinating Editor of the Lewis/Collins Email Group
Sharing my surname information freely, otherwise available for
hire
*McClaran Tree Climbers*
??? Thomas Campbell JEFFERSON: born 1806 Campbell Co, VA., died
in Arkadelphia, ALA. HELP!!!
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Subj: Turner family research
Date: 96-04-19 20:50:58 EDT
From: Pat-Chesney@easy.com (Pat Chesney)
To: NCreed@aol.com
Hi, Nyla,
In your last letter you asked about the information you sent
earlier. At first I was puzzled and looked back at my in mail and
found one of your first letters. It had lots of wonderful
information about my Turners who at that time didn't think were
mine but I had forgotten about your letter. Thank you so much
for trying to help me - you had the answer I just had to
find the right middle name to recieve it as mine! By the way -
have you sent out the 11 compilation? I haven't gotten it if you
have. Would really like to have it.
The following you can add to the next Turner newsletter -
Here is other information I have received to pass on to the
Turner newsletter in hopes it helps -Somehow this Jack E. Turner
is related to my William Suddarth Turner but at this point I
don't know how.
Maj Jack E. Turner was native of NC mar Merina Bryan of NC
they had three children
1) William K. Turner - the late Judge Turner of Nashville
2) Mrs. George W. Cheatham of Nashville
3) Mrs. Emily Oultaw (Outlaw?)
after Merina Bryan died Major Jack remarried to Wealthy S. Bryan
daughter of James H. Bryan of Robertson Co.
1 child
Jack E. Turner b. 1822 mar Emily Darden a daughter of Jesse and
Amelia (Polk )Darden
they had one child
Jesse J. Turner in 1850
This information was given to me by the comptroller of Tenn-
Anthony Turner, who may be related to my Turners there in Sumner
Co. He sent me the land transactions of Turners from 1803-1838.
I found some very interesting things among the names of people
buying and selling land to Turners. The most exciting was a note
at the end of the computer list - a Hust family and an Issac
Preston and wife and Alexander Smith and wife Jane bought or sold
some land to a Turner there in Sumner Co. My William and
Elizabeth Smith Turner named their sons Issac Hardin Turner and
John Preston Turner probably after relatives for their other two
sons obviously were named after he and his wife -William Suddarth
Turner Jr.and Calvin Smith Turner.
If anyone has Turners in Tenn -Anthony said he is researching
Turners in the middle part of Tenn and has a list of 600 from I
guess land transactions. He was willing to send it to me. I
wasn't going to ask for it but if it would help you'll maybe I'd
better. I have the list for Turners in Sumner Co if anyone has
Turners there they want to look for.
The more unusual Turner names there include a Frederick Turner,
Lemuel Turner, Yancy Turner, Seaton H. Turner, Nelson Turner and
Martin Turner.
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Subj: TURNER Family
Date: 96-04-23 10:50:59 EDT
From: dmonreal@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (Dianne Monreal)
To: ncreed@aol.com
Dear Nyla:
I just received an e-mail from Pat Chesney suggesting that I
send you my information on my Turner family. Here goes:
William Turner is my oldest Turner ancestor. He was born in
VA and dissapeared enroute to KY in 1794. His spouse is not
known to me. His son was Thomas Turner. Thomas was born on
Nov. 16, 1792 in Harpers Ferry, VA and died Jan. 30, 1884 in
Huntsville, Butler Co., KY. Thomas married Hannah Carsen (b.
Nov. 5, 1797 in VA and d. Oct. 2, 1844 in Huntsville, Butler
Co., KY). They had the following children: Carsen; John Smith;
James William (b. 1828/9, m. Elizabeth J. ___); Edward Carroll
(b. Sept 29, 1831 in KY; m. Mary McMillan and Margaret Susan
Mansfield; d. Nov. 5, 1896 in Pine Island, Jefferson Co., TX);
Hamilton Bate (b. 1831/2; m. Mary C. _____); Susan (b. 1831/2);
Henry (b. {834/5); Mary (b. 1836/7) and Elizabeth (b. 1841/2).
Thomas remarried Rachel Porter Cook.
I will continue this later.
Dianne Monreal
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Subj: Re: TURNER Family
Date: 96-04-23 20:09:36 EDT
From: dmonreal@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (Dianne Monreal)
To: NCreed@aol.com
Here is part 2 of my Turner family.
Edward Carroll Turner married Mary McMillan (or Martha L.
McMillan) who was born in KY. Their only child was Benjamin
Franklin Turner who was born either June 9, 1852 or April 11,
1852. He was born in either Queensboro (possibly Owensboro) or
Logan Co., KY. He married Ruth Reeks in 1890/91. (Ruth Reeks
was the daughter of James and Indiana Reeks.) Benjamin died on
July 8, 1908 in China, Jefferson Co., TX.
Edward Carroll Turner remarried. His second wife was
Margaret Susan Mansfield who was born on June 15, 1836 in KY.
They had the following children: Thomas Granville (b. 1854/5 in
KY); Mary Louisa (b.1856/7 in KY); Virginia Francis (b. 1858/9 in
KY; m. William F. Flener on Oct. 21, 1880); David Carsen (b.
1861/2 in KY); Anna Eilizabeth (b. 1862/3 in KY; m. Obediah
Beller on July 4, 1878); Martha Isabel (b. 1864/5 in KY); Sherman
(d. infant); Ternesia (b. 1868/9 in KY); James (b. 1870/1 in KY);
Samuel (b.1872/3 in KY); ____ E. (a boy) (b. 1873/4 in KY);
William (b. 1875/6 in KY) and Ida O. (b. 1877/8 in KY.
Benjamin Franklin Turner and Ruth Reeks had the following
children:
Marvin Everett (b. May 29, 1893 in Fairmont, KS; m. Katie Bell
Inman; d. Dec. 25, 1959); Gladys Irene (b. Nov. 9, 1899 in China,
Jefferson Co., TX; m. (1) Bert Nelson and (2) Fred Lee Sifford on
Jan. 16, 1919; d. Sept. 21, 1981 in Beaumont, Jefferson Co., TX);
and Shirley Virgil (b. Sept. 28, 1902 in China, Jefferson Co.,
TX; m. Rose Tortorige).
I hope that this is useful.
Sincerely,
Dianne Monreal
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Subj: Turner Newsletter
Date: 96-04-27 03:03:17 EDT
From: Pat-Chesney@easy.com (Pat Chesney)
To:NCreed@aol.com
Hi, Nyla,
Here's an obituary for the Turner newsletter for John Preston
Turner the son of William Suddarth Turner and wife Elizabeth
Smith the son of John Turner and wife Mildred Suddarth son of
Terisha Turner and wife Sarah Wimpey.
Haven't gotten the 11th newsletter yet. Have you sent it out?
Take care.
Terri Chesney
We hear with much sorrow of the death of another Guad. Co.
oldest settlers, one of that pioneer type which are fast
disappearing. "Uncle John Turner, who has passed from your midst
after a continous residence of seventy years in Texas.
This aged citizen was bound to the writer by the stongest ties
of nature and friendship and we deeply and sincerely mourn his
death.
During the long years of his residence in Texas, he faithfully
did his part in his humble way in redeeming this great
commonwealth from the wilderness and savage and would not
willingly see him pass away--forgotten and unnoticed. And
yielding to a kind and friendly request and moved by our
affection for the dead, we will here attempt to record some poor
tribute to his memory and virtues.
Reared from his tender childhood in the wilds of Tx. he was to
a great extent deprived of the advantages of that character of
education which is derived from books and was but little
acquainted with the social and business usages of the world, but
his long life close to Nature and Natures God--coupled with the
far away influence of his gentle birth gave a polish to his
nature that appealed strangely to all who knew him well.
John Preston Turner, was born in Nashville, Tennessee about
1830 (we regret that we have lost the record of his birth which
we once had) He was born of a family distinguished in the civil
and military annuals of their country. A family which furnished
many eminent lawyers, soldiers and statesmen and a Governor of
one of the States.(No. Carolina) His father, Maj. William S.
Turner was a native of Summer County, Tenn. He won distinction as
a soldier under Andrew Jackson in the Indian Wars and in the war
of 1812. He was noted for his great personal courage and was
known throughout Tenn. for his fearless and daring contests with
the outlaws who infested the country from the mountains to the
Gulf in the day and the time when he was the only sheriff west of
the Alleghaney Mountains. He was the friend and near neighbor of
Gen. Jackson, was a Major on his staff in the Tenn. Militia and
espoused his cause against the Bentons, "as brave as Bill Turner"
was a saying with Jackson.
Such, briefly, was the father of John P. Turner. His mother,
prior to her marriage with Maj. Turner, was Elizabeth Smith, a
lady of gentle birth whose family was one of great respectability
in Jackson, Tenn., where she was reared.
In 1836 Maj. Turner having suffered financial losses which
deprived him of land and slaves, emigrated to the young Republic
of Texas. Stopping on his way for a time at New Orleans where he
and his family were lavishly entertained by his nephew, Mr.
Sumpter Turner, for many weeks. Maj. Turner had aided in the
establishment of his nephew in business many years before
and he had become on e of the wealthiest merchants of the city
where his decendants still live.
Taking a steamer the family proceeded to Texas, reaching
Columbia on the Brazos, where the subject of this sketch first
placed foot on Texas sil late in the spring of 1837. Here the
family were kindly received by their kinsman, Mr. Isaac Kinsley
and his family, where they remained for a while and then
proceeded to their wilderness home on the Guadalupe.
Here the older sons of Maj. Turner, William, Calvin and Hardin
soon ranked among the best marksmen and the most expert horsemen
of the country and were constantly in the service as scouts and
rangers, serving under Hays, the McCulloch's, Gillispie and
Callahan.
John being of tender age and the youngest of the family was
not so much engaged in distant campaigns against the Indians, but
being a born woodsman, a gifted hunter and a good horseman did
valuable service to the lonely settlements as a vidette not only
in time of need, furnishing supplies of venison and buffalo meat,
but keeping watch and ward, hanging upon the tail of blood-
thirsty war parties of Indians, accertaining their course of
march and by hard and fearless riding give timely warning to the
settlers of their approach, all this was his employment when he
was a lad in the 15th year of his age.
At the beginning of the war with Mexico in 1846 John was but
16 years of age. His brothers were constantly absent and we do
not think he did any service in that war as an enlisted soldier,
his services being required at home. He told us in the days gone
by many long and interesting stories of his adventures in the
wilderness, he often alluded to being in camp with Ad Gillispie,
Kit Acklin, Curtis Caldwell, Arch Gibson and other well known
Indian fighters of that day and time, but what actual field
service he performed we regret we are unable to record.
During the Civil War his infirm health exempted him from
military service but his devoted attention to and care of
families of his neighbors who were absent in the Confederate
service is a matter which can be testified to by many yet living.
The night was never too dark and tempestuous or the road
too long for him to go to the relief of any who were in want,
sickness or distress.
In his early manhood he was united in marriage to Rachel, the
only daughter of William A. Sowell who lost his life at Gonzales
in the early days. They lived together in great harmony and
happiness and prospered. His devotion to his wife was one of the
beautiful sentiments that characterized him, his affection for
her was boundless and when she passed out of his life it was as
if the mainspring of his existence was broken.
When the writer was a boy Uncle John was one of the well known
stockmen of the country, owning a ranch and cattle on the range
from the forks of the river to the mountains. He kept an open
house for the cattlemen of his range and the wayfaring man could
always find food and shelter under his roof without money and
without price.
The death of his wife, way back in the seventies, was a blow
from which he never fully recovered, the sad event changed the
trend of his existence. He sold his cattle and ranch and removed
to the southside of the Guadalupe where he has lived in
comparitive seclusion for the past 25 or 30 years of his life.
His mind dwelt so constantly on his loss that many thought his
reason was giving way at times, but the writer who visited him
often in his loneliness, knew that he had only fallen into a
gentle melancholy and nursed with a kind of sad pleasure
affectionate recollections of her with whom so many prosperous
years of his life had been spent and when we heard him, with
his subdued and gentle voice, pronounce her name, "Rachel," we
were not surprised that he spoke as if he stood in her visible
presence.
A thought of this departed loved one, his other self, was ever
present with him and to us it was no sign of failing mind that he
saw her form in the gathering shadows of evening and heard her
voice in the whispering winds of the night.
We have never known in life a kinder or more gentle spirit
that that which dwelt in his bosom, always ready to aid and
comfort those in want and distress. Poor himself, he gave of his
poverty to his more needy neighbors, and was ever ready to serve
them no matter at what personal sacrifice to himself.
While he was quick to resent mistreatment, directed towards
himself or those near and dear to him, and while smarting under
wrongs, real or imaginary, he knew not the sentiment of fear.
Yet his heart was ever open to overtures of peace and quick to
forgive and forget.
No one knew his good and gentle heart better than he who pens
these lines. We knew his abiding faith and belief in a life
beyond the grave, and we trust and hope that his por maimed, bent
and crippled mortal body has taken on that immortality in which
he believed and that in that great beyond the reach of sorrow and
suffering he has found his Rachel agian and with her dwells in
everlasting peace.
Pat and Terri Chesney
Rt. 5 Box 895 E
Waco, Texas 76705
fax: (817)-829-0251
phone: (817)-829-0153
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