Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:28:05 -0400
From: ncreed <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
To: ncreed1@aol.com
Subject: Compilation #121 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc

14 May 1997

Greetings to One and All,

We have a lot of new cuzins joining us this time.  Also, we've
heard from some folks that haven't written to us in a while. 
It's always nice to hear from new folks, but we treasure those
cuzins who pop in from time to time to share their research.  

It's always exciting when someone is willing to share their
concerns about published information that doesn't seems to be
correct.   I trust that this group would point out any obvious
errors that I might contribute.  I think our Spirit of Family
helps us work together in our research efforts.   

Will you please make a note of my change in eMail address:  
        NCreed1@aol.com.

You can start using this eMail address now as I will have access
to NCreed@erols.com for less than a month longer.  I will
be disconnected since I am relocating with my job to San Diego. 
My daughter will be able to forward any of my eMails sent to AOL
since she has AOL.  I will probably go with AOL when I get to San
Diego, unless someone recommends a local inexpensive server that
has a genealogy forum as good as AOL's.

I will be leaving here about 10 June.  I will start work on 24
June.  If you see me driving through your neighborhood, wave to
me since I'll probably be lost.

Nyla CREED DePauk
Vienna, VA

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Sender: szedney@burgoyne.com
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 11:30:19 -0600
From: Steve Zedney <szedney@burgoyne.com>
Subject: Turner Query

Hi Nyla,  Please include this query to the group:  

Seeking information on family of Wiley TURNER, b. 1818 in NC,
living in Cleveland County, NC in 1850 and 1860, and in
Rutherford County in 1870.  Wife Martha; children Margaret,
Huldah, Startling, Minerva Jane, Nancy, Mary, Sarah, Fanny,
Louis, John, Ellen, Marah, and Robert, all born 1842-1865.  

Thanks, Steve Zedney szedney@burgoyne.com

Thanks for your help!  Steve

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From: SSprad25@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 02:45:40 -0400 (EDT)
To: MAISER-L@rootsweb.com, roots@myfamily.org,
ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: VIA Family

I am looking for the ancestors of Charles VIA b. Abt 1845 m.
Emily Ann.   Children, Monroe (William), Lewis, Ruth and twins,
Benjamin and Allen.  The 1880 census shows them living in
Franklin County, VA.

William Monroe is my great grandfather.  Does anyone on the list
have any information on the other siblings or the ancestors of
Charles VIA.

Thank you,
Sandy Spradling
SSprad25@AOL.com
http://members.aol.com/ssprad25/index.html

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Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 11:18:23 -0700
From: Glenda Subyak <gsubyak@vivanet.com>
Reply-To: gsubyak@vivanet.com
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: BURNETT, James Warren

I am searching for my ggrandfather's parents.
James Warren Burnett (b) 1849 in Louisiana (according to census
records) married Julia (Thomas) Angel 28 Sep 1874 in Lamar Co. TX
they had 4 daughters Mary Jane - Mattie - Evia Lena - Alma Ethel.
I found a James Burnett age 11 on the 1860 Collin Co. TX census,
which would fit into the age bracket.
parents listed are:

M.B.L. Burnett - age 28  (b) GA
Mary  (wife)   - age 27  (b) Ten
James          - age 11  (B) LA
Sarah          - age 9   (b) TX
James J.       - age 6   (b) TX
Elizabeth      - age 4   (b) TX
Louisa A.      - age 2 mo.(b)TX

If anyone connects to any of the above, Please contact me.
Thanks
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rom: Kyrajo2526@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 14:37:30 -0400 (EDT)
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: my BURNETT family!

Hi Nyla and everyone!

I see that we have some new people on the list, so I'd like to
share my line again!

*********************
Descendants of Thomas Burnett
                         
     1    Thomas Burnett b: Abt 1780 in England        d: June
1826 in Oldham County, KY
.         +Mary Jane Duvall   b: Abt 1780 in MD   m: January 21,
1805 in Henry County, KY d: 1853 in Trimble County, KY
........  2    Stephen Burnett     b: Abt 1806         d: Bef
1860
............        +Polly Hancock b: Abt 1800 in North Carolina 
m: October 14, 1823 in Henry County, KY d: May 03, 1878 in
Trimble County, KY
................... 3    Elizabeth Burnett   b: August 07, 1834
in Bedford, Trimble County, KY          d: March 20, 1905
.......................       +Edd Louden    b: Abt 1830    m:
March 23, 1856 d: Unknown
..............................     4    Stephen Kirby Louden     
b: Abt 1857 in KY        d: Unknown
..................................      +Ruth Adeline Greenwood  
b: Abt 1860    m: September 29, 1886    d: Unknown
..............................     4    W. S. Louden   b: Abt
1859      d: Unknown
..............................     4    Edd Louden     b: Abt
1860      d: Unknown
..............................     4    Shell Louden   b: Abt
1862      d: Unknown
..............................     4    Lucy Louden    b: Abt
1864      d: Unknown
..............................     4    Anna Louden    b: Abt
1866      d: Unknown
..............................     4    Lizzie Louden  b: Abt
1868      d: Unknown
................... 3    William Henry Burnett    b: August 07,
1837 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY          d: December 28, 1883
in Bedford, Trimble County, KY
.......................       +Nancy Dillon Spillman   b: July
14, 1843 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY m: November 14, 1861 in
probably Bedford, Trimble County, KY    d: September 21, 1899 in
Bedford, Trimble County, KY
..............................     4    William Eddie Burnett    
b: January 21, 1862 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY          d:
March 11, 1862 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY
..............................     4    James Henry Burnett b:
December 23, 1864 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY       d:
November 19, 1919
..................................      +Amanda Tiller b: Abt
1865      d: Unknown
..............................     4    Nancy Dillon Burnett     
b: October 10, 1867 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY          d:
January 30, 1957
..............................     4    Stephen Harve Burnett    
b: September 19, 1870 in Trimble County, KY       d: December 06,
1964 in Carmel, Hamilton County, IN  (nursing home)
..................................      +Susan Adeline Gividen   
b: March 01, 1874 in KY  m: February 25, 1891 in Madison,
Jefferson County, IN     d: January 26, 1952 in Southport, Marion
County, IN
.........................................    5    Henry Clayton
"Barney" Burnett    b: December 10, 1891 in Milton, Trimble
County, KY          d: September 11, 1967 in Noblesville,
Hamilton County, IN
.............................................          +unknown  
b: Unknown          d: Unknown
.........................................         *2nd Wife of
Henry Clayton "Barney" Burnett:              
.............................................          +Hazel
(Isabel) Ross  b: September 01, 1893 in Indianapolis, Marion
County, IN     m: September 25, 1919 in Indianapolis, Marion
County, IN     d: February 06, 1962 in Noblesville, Hamilton
County, IN
.........................................    5    Ollie M.
Burnett   b: January 23, 1893 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY     
d: Unknown in Richwood, W. VA
.............................................          +Carroll
H. Deem   b: Abt 1890    m: 1936   d: June 22, 1956
.........................................    5    Ruby C.
Burnett   b: April 29, 1894 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY       
d: Unknown 
.........................................    5    William H.
Burnett   b: September 10, 1895 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY   
d: Unknown
.............................................          +Lillian
unknown   b: Abt 1895         d: Unknown
.........................................    5    Mamie Catherine
Burnett   b: July 31, 1897 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY        
d: Unknown
.........................................    5    Logan T.
Burnett   b: August 23, 1899 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN  
d: Unknown
.............................................          +Catherine
unknown   b: Abt 1900         d: Unknown
.........................................    5    Helen Burnett  
b: February 01, 1906 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN          
d: Unknown 
.............................................          +Louis
Johnson   b: Abt 1900         d: Unknown
.........................................    5    Pauline
Burnett   b: September 21, 1909 in Indianapolis, Marion County,
IN        d: Unknown
.............................................          +Thomas
Hoffman   b: Abt 1905         d: Unknown
.........................................    5    Hildred
Burnett   b: May 22, 1915 in Indianapolis, Marion County, IN     
d: Unknown
.............................................          +Richard
Kottcamp  b: Abt 1910         d: Unknown
.........................................    5    triplet
Burnett   b: Abt 1918         d: Abt 1918
.........................................    5    triplet
Burnett   b: Abt 1918         d: Abt 1918
.........................................    5    triplet
Burnett   b: Abt 1918         d: Abt 1918
.........................................    5    twin Burnett   
b: Abt 1920         d: Abt 1920
.........................................    5    twin Burnett   
b: Abt 1920         
..............................     4    Catherine Isabel Burnett 
b: April 21, 1873 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY       d: June
06, 1922 
..............................     4    Ira Clarence Burnett     
b: January 01, 1876 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY          d:
May 23, 1943
..............................     4    Cora Lee Burnett    b:
September 11, 1878 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY      d: January
10, 1922
..................................      +Joseph Ball   b: Abt
1875      d: Unknown
..............................     4    Hettie Jane Burnett b:
April 05, 1881 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY          d:
February 23, 1969
..................................      +Joseph Welty  b: Abt
1880 m: April 23, 1902   d: Unknown
..............................     4    Gracie B. Burnett   b:
September 23, 1883 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY      d:
November 10, 1970
..................................      +Ben Ford b: Abt 1880    
d: Unknown
..............................          *2nd Husband of Gracie B.
Burnett:            
..................................      +Alva Tyra     b: Abt
1880      
................... 3    Stephen Burnett     b: 1841 in Trimble
County, KY          d: Unknown
................... 3    Elgin Burnett  b: 1853        d: Unknown
........  2    Keziah Burnett b: August 01, 1807 in KY      d:
March 20, 1886 in Harrison County, MO
............        +Peter J. Rowlett   b: August 21, 1805 in VA 
m: March 14, 1825 in Oldham County, KY  d: July 1856 in Harrison
County, MO
................... 3    Thomas Burnett Rowlett   b: 1825 in KY  
d: September 02, 1863 in Jackson County, AR
.......................       +Sarah Ann Pinnell  b: Abt 1825    
m: August 1845 in Trimble County, KY    d: Unknown in probably
Jackson County, AR
................... 3    Harriet Ann Rowlett b: 1828 in Monroe
County, IN          d: September 1859 in Gentry County, MO
.......................       +Charles Wesley Spillman b: October
12, 1823 in Culpeper County, VA    m: August 20, 1845 in Trimble
County, KY     d: February 21, 1908 in Harrison County, MO
................... 3    William Francis Rowlett  b: Abt 1830 in
KY        d: Abt 1863 in St. Louis, MO  (Benton Barricks)
.......................       +Elizabeth Persinger     b: Abt
1830 m: in MO  d: Unknown
................... 3    Mary Jane Rowlett   b: Abt 1833 in KY   
d: Unknown
.......................       +William Cox   b: Abt 1830    m:
May 03, 1864 in Harrison County, MO     d: Unknown
................... 3    Nancy Rowlett  b: Abt 1835 in KY        
d: Bef 1869
.......................       +Joseph McGinity    b: Abt 1835    
d: Unknown
................... 3    Emily Rowlett  b: Abt 1837 in KY        
d: Aft June 1920 in probably Plainville, Rooks County, KS
.......................       +Virgil Coleman     b: Abt 1835    
d: Unknown
................... 3    Martha Ellen Rowlett     b: January 21,
1840 in KY          d: August 30, 1906
.......................       +William T. Coleman b: Abt 1840    
d: Unknown
................... 3    Amanda Rowlett b: Abt 1842 in KY        
d: December 29, 1867
.......................       +Jesse Power   b: Abt 1840         
d: Unknown
................... 3    Peter Jackson Rowlett    b: April 11,
1844 in Green County, KY      d: June 26, 1920 in St. Joseph,
Buchanan County, MO
.......................       +Mary Margaret Kelly     b: Abt
1845 m: 1870 in MO  d:
Unknown 
................... 3    Zachariah Rowlett   b: Abt 1845 in KY   
d: Abt 1845 in KY (in infancy)
................... 3    Sarah Elizabeth Rowlett  b: Abt 1848 in
KY        d: Unknown
.......................       +unknown Whitely    b: Abt 1845    
d: Unknown
................... 3    Joanna Rowlett Rowlett   b: Abt 1851 in
KY        d: Unknown
........  2    Thomas Burnett b: Abt 1808         d: Aft 1850
............        +Sarah unknown b: Abt 1810    d: Aft 1850

****************************
If you share my line, please contact me at:  kyrajo2526@aol.com 

Thanks very much!

Kyra Jo Hatke
Lafayette, IN  :-)

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Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 13:19:49 -0700
From: Evelyn Alexander <beryl@northwest.com>
Subject: Ross/Turner

Nyla,

I am concerned with some seemingly misleading information that is
out there, even in the Mormon archives, and on the latest Family
Tree world wide pedigrees, that I believe to be probable
misinformation.

We have exchanged information before on the James Turner lineage,
and on the Shadrach line.  My Jubal Turner was the youngest son
of Admire Turner.  The information I believe is probably wrong
(no proof as yet) is the parents of Jubal's wife Milly Ross,
supposedly the John Ross and wife Nancy of Adair Co., KY.  I now
believe (no proof as yet) that her parents are actually the John
Ross of Franklin Co., VA, who died in Bedford Co., VA, who was
the father of Sutherland Ross, and that she was probably a sister
of Sutherland.  Sutherland is the person who was surety for Milly
when she married Jubal.  

I have never been comfortable with the family in Adair Co., KY. 
His  children all (except Milly?) were born in NC.  Possibly
there are two Milly Ross's, born a year apart?

This is the information I feel is possibly correct:

John Ross, b. ca 1770 Scotland, d. 1823, Bedford Co., VA., he
married ca 1790 Bedford Co., VA Relender Baswell.  I have only
one child for him, and that is Sutherland Ross.  He very probably
had others, possibly female children that were never listed.

Sutherland Ross, b. ca 1793 Franklin Co., VA, d. 9 May 1870,
Franklin Co., VA, married Docia Turner/Farmer, ca 1819, Children: 
(1) Robert Venable Ross, b. ca 1820, Franklin Co., VA; (2) Emily
Ross, b. ca 1822, Franklin Co., VA, married 6 Nov 1837, Franklin
Co., VA, Ludwick Boon;  (3) James H. Ross, b. ca 1824, Franklin
Co., VA.

I now believe it is possible that Milly (Mildred or Emily?) is a
sister to Sutherland Ross.  Sutherland Ross was born the same
year 1793, as Jubal Turner, they knew each other, or knew of each
other.  Milly was born 1797 (taken from her tombstone).

The Milly Ross listed as a daughter of John Ross of Adair Co.,
KY, was born 1796.  In Salt Lake there are (or were in 1989) 2
group sheets showing the same parents, John and Nancy (?) Ross of
KY, for Milly, in one she is married to Jubal Turner, in the
other she is married to John Ross, and the marriage date was the
same as Jubal and Milly's marriage date.  Milly who married Jubal
Turner is supposed to have been born in Virginia.  All of the
John Ross of Adair Co., KY children are supposed to have been
born in NC, except for Milly?  I have never been comfortable with
this information, and now believe it is wrong.

What I have, (not proved) so far, and am trying hard to connect
is:

Admire Turner and Sally Turner as parents of Jubal Franklin
Turner.  John Ross and Relender Baswell, as parents of Milly
Ross.

Jubal Franklin Turner, b. 2 Oct 1793, Bedford Co., VA, d. 18 Sep
1862, Monroe Co., IA; married 16 May 1818, Franklin Co., VA,
Millie Ross, Sutherland Ross, surety.  Children:

1. John S. Turner,

2. Robert L. Turner, b. 1 Mar 1818, Franklin Co., VA, d. 10 Nov
1862, Keokuk, IA, (Civil War); m. ca 1858, Franklin Co., VA
Minerva Johnson.
Children:
     (1) Mary S. Turner, b. 1859, Monroe Co. IA, d. 21 Mar 1864,
Monroe Co., IA.
     (2) Robert L. Turner, Jr., b. ca 1862, Monroe Co., IA, m. 17
Oct 1882, Monroe Co., IA, Iva Collins.

3. Whitfield Ross Turner, b. 29 Apr 1819, Henry Co., VA, d. 11
Apr 1880, Monroe Co., IA, m. 12 Jan 1853, Franklin Co., VA,
Martha Jane King, b. 5 Dec 1830, Lynchburg, VA, d. 18 Apr 1920,
Plano, Appanoose Co., IA. This couple's second child (Elizabeth)
was born 1854 in Adair Co., KY, where the entire family of
emigrants stayed for a period of time, arriving in Monroe Co., IA
about 1855.
Children:
    (1)  Amanda Ellen Turner, b. 23 Oct 1853, Franklin Co., VA,
d. 14 Sep 1908 (of TB), Centerville, Appanoose Co., IA, married
30 Dec 1881, Monroe Co., IA, James Marion Cate,
    (2)  Elizabeth K. Turner, b. 6 Oct 1854, Adair Co., KY, d. 30
Jan 1885, Cedar Mines, Monroe Co., IA, m. 31 Dec 1877, Albia,
Monroe Co., IA, Thomas F. Watkins.
    (3)  George Whitfield Turner, Sr. b. 6 Feb 1857, monroe Co.,
IA, d. 30 Sep 1895, Pottawatomie Co., OK, (shooting accident,
three months before my father, George Whitfield Turner, Jr. was
born), m. 1 Nov 1891, Appanoose Co., IA, Della May Stevens,
(these are my grandparents).
    (4)  Greenville E. Turner, b. 29 May 1860, Monroe Co., IA, d.
Aug 1860, Monroe Co., IA (wonder where the name Greenville came
from? He is buried next to Jubal and Milly in the Lemaster
Cemetery, Monroe Co., IA).
    (5)  Zeriah Turner, b. 1862, Monroe Co., IA, d. 1 Mar 1891,
Monroe Co., IA, never married.
    (6)  Allen C. Turner, b. ca 1864, Monroe Co., IA,
    (7)  Octavia 'Tave' Turner, b. 13 Sep 1868, Moravia Appanoose
Co., IA, d. aft 1955, m. 9 Jun 1891, Hague Augustus Stevens, Sr.
(divorced), married 2, Fremont S. McPherson.
    (8)  Martha Turner, b. aft 1870, Monroe Co., IA, d. 27 Apr
1872, Monroe Co., IA.

4. Jeffrey C. Turner, b. ca 1819, Henry Co., VA, m. 7 Dec 1839,
Franklin Co., VA. Nancy A. Mason.

5. Nancy E. Turner, b. ca 1820, Henry Co., VA, m. 3 Nov 1859,
Thomas Barker.

6. Washington Turner, b. ca 1823, Franklin Co., VA, d. 1889,
Newton Co., MO; married 1, 25 Nov 1845, Franklin Co., Eve
Brubaker; married 2, ca 1863, Judith -----,
    Children:
    (1) Mary Turner, b. 18 Oct 1846, Franklin Co., VA, d. 1876,
m. Mike Montgomery.
    (2) Owen Turner, b. 25 Dec 1849, Franklin Co., VA, d. 18 Feb
1934, m. 19 Oct 1873, Cinderilla Hopping.
    (3) Joel Turner, b. 15 Dec 1851, Franklin Co., VA.
    (4) Benjamin Turner, b. Jan 1853, Franklin Co., VA.
    (5) Nancy Turner, b. 1855, d. 1875.
    (6) Daniel Turner, b. 1859, d. 1875.
    (7) Christian Turner, b. 1862, d. 1862.

7. Richard H. Turner, b. ca 1825, Franklin Co., VA, d. 22 Oct
1871, Franklin Co., KS.

I would sure appreciate any information that might help untangle
the problem of Milly's parents.  This family has been a difficult
one to track. I have tried for years, and just this year found a
descendant of Washington Turner, and a descendant of Sutherland
Ross.  There are other children of Jubal and Milly that I still
don't much information for.

Happy Hunting,

Evelyn B. Alexander
beryl@northwest.com

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From: JJKALI@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:26:11 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: Compilation #129 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc

To all on this list:  I made a faux pax (sp)  when I sent a note
re Penny's posting on the Joseph Brown Turner Collection, it was
exciting to see names that are the same as those in my northern
Turner line.  I put the word not in my sentence and that really
was a zinger.  I sent a note to Penny that I was not questioning
her source, I had not read what I typed.  Nothing like eating
humble pie, but I would not question someone like that
intentionally.  I had that happen to me and it hurt.  I had
shared some family information on Prodigy and some family sheets
that were given to me without dates or sources and it was aired
on Prodigy Genealogy Board and I was not a happy camper!   Before
I sent the information I had explained to this person that I did
not have sources and could not vouch for the data although it was
provided to me in good faith, and I in turn was trying to help. 
Made me feel like a heel.... I lost a good friend because of it
from VT.  So in no way would I question Penny, it was wonderful
of her to share it.  So much for not reading stuff.  

Nyla:  do you have the address where this collection is located? 
I lost much of my material six months ago as my computer crashed,
Happy mothers day to all.  June Turner Kalipolites in NH  
=======================================================

From: "Don or Nancy Cleere Rodgers" <dnealrod@flash.net>
Subject: Add to Burnett-Turner Mailing List
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 03:42:28 -0500

Nyla,

Hi.  I have enjoyed reading the amazing amount of information
regarding the Burnett & Turner lines.  I believe you and I share
several ancestors although my line is descended from Jeremiah,
Sr. > Roland > Elizabeth Burnett who married Silas R. Christal
(my g-grandparents).  I originally had done a search for Burnetts
through Family Tree Maker On-Line (my genealogy program) and this
lead me to you and Chris Gaunt.  

A distant Christal cousin recently sent me information on the
Burnett line as we share Jeremiah, Sr. also.  His Burnett line is
from Jeremiah, Sr.> Jeremiah, Jr.> Samuel> Capt. Jeremiah> Mary
Ann Burnett.  His Turner line is from Shadrack> William> John>
George Washington> Nancy Turner> Mary Ann Burnett.  Mary Ann
Burnett married Silas Granville Christal, son of Silas
R. Christal.  The Burnett ancestor chart was compiled by June
Bork who I see mentioned several times in your mailings. The
Turner information was by James D. Turner.  

I hope there will be some Christal researchers joining too as
this family goes back to VA, TN, & MO also and intermarries
several times with the Burnetts.  Silas R. & Elizabeth Burnett
Christal came to Denton Co., TX (Wise Co. before boundaries
changed) near town of Stony, 14 miles west of City of Denton
about 1853 from Macon Co. MO.  Several other families of
Burnetts also came to TX and settled in nearby areas.

Both Elizabeth and Silas are buried in Eakins Cemetery, Ponder,
Denton Co., TX.  They can be found on my cemetery webpage that
has several Christals and related families listed at
(http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/6448/EakinsCem.html).  Also
Christal outline chart through six generations at
(http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/6448/chrisoutline.html) for
anyone intereste in the Christal-Burnett line.

Funny thing, I have a Solomon Ingram on my father's side. 
Solomon married Elizabeth C. Paine.  Very similar to your info,
but my Solomon Ingram was born in GA, May 24, 1826.  Wouldn't
that be wild to have that connection too?

Nancy Cleere Rodgers
dnealrod@flash.net

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From: DAMTROYOH@aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 07:55:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TURNER - McKINNEY

I am researching the following Turner family line and would
appreciate exchanging information with those who are following or
associated with the same line.

Stephen Turner, b? - d?; m 16 Jul 1782, Bedford County, VA, 
Mary Roundtree, b ? - d  bef 26 Nov 1823, Lincoln County, KY
(They migrated to KY abt 1794.)

Issue:    Susanna Turner, b 1796 (?) - d aft 1854, m 26 Mar 1806,
Lincoln County, KY,  Alexander McKinney,  b ca 1785 (TN or PA) -
d 10 Jan 1856 (Harrison County, IN;

Issue:    Turner McKinney, b ca 1809 (?) (KY or IN) - d aft 1860
& bef 1870 (IN) m 25 Jan 1833, Nancy Ott, b ca 1810 (PA)

Stephen Turner, my G-G-G-G-Grandfather,  served in the 5th, 11th
and 15th Virginia Regiments in the Revolutionary War.

Dale McKinney (damtroyoh@aol.com)

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Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:39:23 -0500
From: Sharon Crawford <scburn1@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: scburn1@earthlink.net
Subject: Burnetts

Hi Nyla

For anyone researching Burnetts in Oklahoma I have uploaded a few
Burnett obits to my "Oklahoma Obits" web page at
 
     http://home.earthlink.net/~scburn1/okobits.htm
--------
Sharon Burnett Crawford
mailto:scburn1@earthlink.net
Burnett*Wright: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6432
Crawford*Gosser: http://home.earthlink.net/~scburn1/
Pontotoc Co. Oklahoma usgenweb page:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpontot/pontotoc.htm
*************************************************
BURNETT*WRIGHT*CRAWFORD*GOSSER*UNDERWOOD*JOHNSON*UPTON*ALLEN

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From: chickflet <chickflet@aristotle.net>
X-Mail-Agent: WebSage v.1.35b
Date: Mon, 12 May 97 22:06:41 
Cc: <lawand19@idt.net>
Subject: Sarah Burnett

John Burnett born 14 Jan 1807, Rutherford Co., NC; died Feb 1865
near Petit Jean Mountain in Conway Co., AR; killed by
bushwhackers; son of Frederick Burnett and Margaret Null married
20 Dec 1827 NC Margaret Elizabeth Goforth, born 05 Dec 1810,
Buncombe Co.,NC died 15 Nov 1895, Franklin Co., AR

Children:
1.   James Eldridge Burnett born 20 Nov 1828, Buncombe Co., NC
died 10 Nov 1853, Franklin Co., AR
2.   Henry Powell Burnett born 20 Oct 1831, Buncombe Co., NC
3.   Sarah E. Burnett born 11 May 1834, Buncombe Co., NC; married
John Springer 01 Aug 1854, Franklin Co., AR
4.   Margaret M. Burnett born 21 Jul 1836, Buncombe Co., NC;
married John Prim 09 Jan 1853, Franklin Co., AR
5.   Thomas L. Burnett born 08 Dec 1838, Buncombe Co., NC; died
03 Nov 1840, Grainger Co., TN
6.   Nancy M. Burnett born 26 Mar 1841, Grainger Co., TN; married
Francis M. Harmon and Alfred Forbus
7.   Henrietta Matilda Burnett, born 27 Aug 1843, Grainger Co.,
TN; married James William Helm
8.   Louisa J. Burnett born 02 Nov 1846, Franklin Co., AR; died
12 Sep 1850, Franklin Co., AR
9.   Isaac Frederick Quail Monroe Burnett born 15 Nov 1850,
Franklin Co., AR; died 17 Jan 1914, Franklin Co., AR; married
Rebecca Ellen McMillan 10. Oliver Cicero Burnett born 23 Oct 1853
Franklin Co., AR; died 1929; married Mary Elizabeth Bivins.

This is not my line of Burnetts but some of these Burnetts are
still in Franklin and Johnson Co., AR.  I have been researching
Burnetts in Arkansas for several years.

Georgia Burnett Fletcher of Little Rock, AR

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Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:21:53 -0700
From: rangeley <rangeley@caller.infi.net>
Subject: Turner/Ross/Packwood

Hello Nyla,

I would very much like to join the discussion group you have
going on the subject surnames.  I descend from Shadrack Turner as
does my husband.

Thanks!

Lynda Rangeley
4402 Carlow Dr.
Corpus Christi, TX 78413
(rangeley@caller.infi.net)

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From: CarBurCo@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:31:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: BURNETTS OF VA AND BEYOND

Nyla:

Please add me to your list:whatever the name if it includes lots
of BURNETTS. 

Caroline Burnett Cook
CarBurCo@aol.com

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From: "Tami Ramsey" <ramaus@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: James D. TURNER
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 06:29:31 -0500

Nyla;

I am trying to help a Civil War researcher that is in possession
of some letters from the Civil War find long lost relatives.  He
would dearly love to find out the fate of the family involved. 
There is a hand written letter from James D. TURNER, who was a
chaplain in the 4th Penn Regt, to his wife Callie (Caroline
TURNER).  He thinks the family had settled around Cannonsburgh,
PA at the time of James death around June 24, 1864.  Apparently
he died during the war because the following children are listed
in his wife's pension file.  Joseph B. TURNER, born July 30, 1853
Clara M. TURNER born December 4, 1855.  Harry I or L TURNER born
February 26, 1858.

I would appreciate anyone's input in helping the gentleman,
please contact me.

Tami Ramsey  ramaus@ix.netcom.com

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From: HarrisSEM@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:06:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Samuel Packwood Letter

Nyla,  

This is the letter I mentioned that was written by Samuel
Packwood who was married to Elizabeth Turner who was a daughter
of Shadrack Turner Senior and Ann (Hill) Turner.  


               The Samuel Packwood Letter

     Published in May 1911-by The Argus, Greenfield  Ill. 

     "The following letter was written just one hundred years ago
today.  The writer, Samuel Packwood, was the grandfather of
Daniel Smith, who was one of the well known characters of the
Waller neighborhood in years gone by.  Two of Daniel Smith's
children are still living in that locality, they being
Sallie M. Smith and Robert A. Smith.  The letter is one of the
family heirlooms and has been in the possession of Mrs. Sallie M.
Smith for many years.  It was written from Town Creek in Henry
County, Virginia, the letter bearing no envelope, being folded
and sealed with red sealing wax.  The address thereon was as
follows:
     "To Mr. John Smith living in the state of Kentucky in
Cumberland County near the mouth of mud camp favoured by Mr.
gearhart."
      The letter is in a fair state of preservation and is highly
prized by the family.  We have followed the style of the writher
as to spelling, capitalization and puctuation.  It is merely a
family letter, its age being of greatest interest to our
readers:"
                                                                  
                         "May 5, 1811"

      "Loving son and Daughter these few lines comes to let you
noe that we are in our usual state of helth at present thanks to
god for his mercys hoping these few lines will find you and your
little children in the Same State of helth.  I gladly Received
your letter by thomas Stone and I got your Sertificate and I 
Sent it by thomas gearhart inclosed in the letter also I
sent you a Detale of your affares in this part of the world.  I
sold your corn to your brother Charles Smith for thirty thre
Dollors and a half--one of your hogs I never got and a nother one
Died Soon after I sold them I Sold them for Sixteen Dollers and a
half.  I paid Jacob prilaman thirteen pounds of Iron and five
shillings and six pence.  I thrased out your Ry and theare
was nine bushe's and a half and I sold it for a half Daller a
bushel I got four of corn (bushels) -out of the crib and I got
Seventy bundles of fodder out of the house is all that I got. 
Charles Smith Sold the land and the man come  on the place   Soon
your money will bee Ready by the first Day of September    
Except Standle and  that I will try to git in Iron.  Thare
is nothing new worth a writting to you a monsgt us.  Mother
turner is very Loe in helth but some what amended your father and
mother is well our old Neighbor prelaman Lost his Daughter
Elesabeth hellems.  And as you hav Rented Land I think it the
best way for the first year,  The people are a going
to the bend of the Tennesy.  Thomas Reves have bought William
Sharps Land and Sharp is going there.  I would come out and bring
your money but I am afraid to promis but I intend to  Com an Se
you if the Lord Spares me my helth
      So that I can before long     Remember my Love to brother
Larkin and his family.  you wrote to me to Send you your ax by
thomas gearhart I got your ax but no chance to send it--and now I
will give you a Small account of this part of the world--corn is
to be got at thirteen Shillings and Six pence
a barrel--Ry at three Shillings a bushel--bacon at Six pence per
pound and as for Stock it is selling verry Loe and Land Does not
Sell for the haff of the valy of the Labour that is don on it--So
I donte Expect to Ever Sell my Land in my time,  my children is
scattered So that I never Expect to see them all again but I
would faign injoy the Sight of you if I could for I miss the
children So much I must conclude my Leter noing that you all are
in the hands of them that abel to pervide for both body and
Spirit.  So remaining your Affectshinate father ang mother until
Death Samuel and Elasabeth Packwood to John and Rachel Smith and
Samuel and Daniel and Steven.  Elisha Deseirs his Love to be
Remembered to you all.  Nancy and Edith and Elasabeth Deseirs
their Love to be Remembered."

     In the book Meshack Turner 111- His Wife - Sarah Robey
Tucker, the author, Lucille R. Maddox, who saw a copy of this
letter but chose not topublish it, does clarify the various names
mentioned in the letter.  This letter was sent to his (Samuel
Packwoods) "daughter and son-inlaw, Rachel Packwood Smith and her
husband, John Smith, who had recently taken up leased land in
Cumberland County, Kentucky."  He refers to "Jacob Prilaman a
neighbor and Thomas Stone.  Relatives of both of these men
intermarried the decendants of Shadrack Turner  Senior "  He
speaks of his grandchildren, Nancy, Samuel, Daniel, and Steven
Smith.....of his wife Elizabeth...his mother-in-law, Mother
Turner (Ann) " and of his wife Elizabeth's brother Larkin Turner
who is then residing in Cumberland County, Kentucky near Samuel
Packwood's daughter Rachel and her husband John Smith.

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From: HarrisSEM@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:22:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: oops!-Packwood letter

I did all that typing and forgot to sign my name to it!  Please
add it to my message.  Thanks!  Sherry   Also according The
Turner compilation part 1 of 12, when Samuel Packwood mentions
Elisha, Nancy, Edith, and Elasabeth, he is talking about some of
Rachels' brothers and sisters.  Hope this makes sense   :)

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SHERRY, How wonderful to have the Packwood letter.  Thank you for
taking the time to share it with us.  Nyla

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From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" <ekirkman@swva.net>
Subject: Patrick County Book List

I know that most of our folks subscribe to either Roots-L or
VA-Roots, but some may not so I thought I'd send this along. 
Hope it will be of help to someone.
------------------------------------------------
Patrick County Publications
----------------------------
1850 PATRICK COUNTY, VA CENSUS, by June B. Bork - $20.00 +
postage, etc.
NOTE: Available from compiler - 
9375 Bella Vista Rd, Apple Valley, CA 92308 (1-619-3790)

1860 PATRICK COUNTY, VA CENSUS, by Rhonda S. Roberson
$23.00 + 4.00p&h, From : Wise Co., VA Historical society
P.O. Box 368, Wise VA 24293

PATRICK COUNTY, VA DEATH REGISTER, 1853-1870, Anne W. James 
$25.00
Both books are available from:
Mountain Press, P.O. Box 400, Signal Mountain, TN 37377-0400 
(615-886-6369)

MARRIAGES OF PATRICK COUNTY, VA 1791-1850, by Lela C. Adams 
$20.00
PATRICK COUNTY, VA, 1791-1823, ABSTRACTS OF WILLS, INVENTORIES &
ACCOUNTS,
by Lela C. Adams  $18.50 plus postage and handling.
Both books are available from:
Byron Sistler & Assoc.,  P.O. Box 120934, Nashville, TN 37212

PATRICK COUNTY, VA 1791-August 1800, ABSTRACTS OF ORDER BOOK NO
"0",
by Lela C. Adams.  Availability is uncertain.

PATRICK COUNTY, VA MARRIAGES, 1854-1874, Jimmie Martin-Steele
Available from compiler, 1830 Carter Rd., SE, Roanoke, VA 24105

PATRICK COUNTY, VA MARRIAGES, 1875-1900, by Eunice B. Kirkman
Order from: Frank Roundy, 1902 Bancroft Drive, Hampton, VA 23663
$20.00 postpaid.

TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTIONS OF CEMETERIES OF PATRICK COUNTY, VA, by
O.E. Pilson.
$27.50 postpaid,    Available from:
O.E. Pilson, Route 4, Box 317, Ridgeway, VA 24148 and the
Patrick County Historical Society, P.O. Box 1045, Stuart, VA
24171

HISTORY OF PATRICK AND HENRY COUNTIES, VA, 1933 by Va. & Lewis
Pedigo

HISTORY OF HENRY COUNTY, VA by Judith Parks America Hill
Both books available from:
Clearfield Publishing Co., 200 East Eager St. Baltimore, MD 21202
(410) 625-9004

DAN RIVER BOOK, ODYSSEY, EPIC, AND GUIDE, Star Square Press  $20
+ pstg
Available Patrick County Historical Society

NEW!! PATRICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED INDEX ABSTRACTS, 1791 - 1850 
 Alphabetized Grantor and Grantee indexes  7,050 entries showing
date, book, page, Grantor, instrument, Grantee  $35.00 plus $4.00
shipping  For orders contact: Barbara C. Baughan at the Patrick
County Historical Society (see address below) or send e-mail to
bbaughan@swva.net

NEW!!  Patrick County birth Records, 1853-1869, by Betty Pilson &
Barbara Baughan
$25 + 2.50 s&h, Order from Patrick County Historical Society,
P.O. Box 1045,
Stuart, VA 24171
 
Some publications may be available from other sources such as:
Genealogical Publishing Co., 1001 No. Calvert St., Baltimore, MD
21202

Southern Historical Press, P.O. Box 1267, Greenville, SC 29602

---------------------------------------------------------
Unpublished reference materials are available in the Patrick
County Historical Society files for research.  These include
compilations of many of the early families of Patrick County,
unpublished census records for 1820, 1830, 1840, 1870, and
Patrick County Death Records, 1871-1896.

Staff members will research on a limited basis without charge. 
Materials will be copied for mailing at cost of $0.15/page plus
postage expense. Anyone wishing staff research should be very
specific in search requests in order to save time and money.

Queries may be addressed to Virginia C. Collins, Curator, Patrick
County Historical Society, P.O. Box 1045, Stuart, VA 24171
Open: Tuesday thru Saturday, 10am to 2pm, and by appointment.
Phone: (540) 694-2840

Eunice B. Kirkman                         ekirkman@swva.net
          /\^/\^/\%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%/\^/\^/\
    The Blue Ridge Mountains of SouthWestern Virginia

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Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:58:39 -0700
From: rangeley <rangeley@caller.infi.net>
Organization: InfiNet
To: ncreed <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Re: Turner/Ross/Packwood
References: <199705140134.VAA26799@smtp2.erols.com>

Hello again, Nyla,

I just had to stop back by to tell you that I visited the site
and am absolutely "OVERWHELMED."   This is fabulous.  Too bad it
is so late in the evening and I must work tomorrow, but I can
hardly wait to get back and do some "digging."

Many thanks, and I will try to contribute "something."

Lynda

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LYNDA:  Looking forward to whatever you care to share.  Let us
know if you find anything new on your line.  Nyla

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Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:04:11 -0400
From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" <ekirkman@swva.net>
Subject: Re: A forwarded message / wants to join the list

Nyla:  Are you the one that is telling everyone about our list? 
The amount of new interest certainly has increased over the past
few days.  I see you on Roots-L from time to time.  

Eunice:  I get a lot of mail on those surnames, I send them all
to you because the more we have on the list, the more info there
is to share.  I know that I seldom post anything, but I save all
of the digests and now and then, I can pull one up and help
someone out.

Nyla:  Can you believe the amount of information that the
"cuzins" have shared on our list?

Eunice: Isn't it something?!!  I have gotten so much out of it,
added it into my data base and, of course it goes into the
computer at the Bassett Library, and I do printouts for the
Patrick County Historical Society.  There was quite a stir when I
added the Goode files.  Virginia said that she's made a lot of
copies for folks.  Virgil is our Rep now, so the Goode family is
very popular.

Aren't YOU proud of the way your list has taken off?  Just think
how much it has accomplished in bringing folks together.  There
is a real sense of family there.

Nyla:  
I had hoped that Janet Cox would come to VA to see me; but now
that I am on my way to San Diego, CA, I guess I won't make that
trip to SW VA to see whereour ancestors called home.

Eunice:  Maybe you can make it down here another time?  Are you
moving out there permanently?  Whatever, have a good trip!  Take
care...

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NYLA:  Eunice and All,  I always think of this as "our" list.  It
is all of us working together that has made our list work so
well.  

I glad to know that Eunice is contributing information to the
Bassett Library and doing printouts for the P.C.H.S.  

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