Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: NCreed1@aol.com
To: 102125.3126@compuserve.com, NCreed1@aol.com
Subject: Comp 136 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
4 Jul 1997
Happy 4th of July to Everyone:
From time to time, as many of you have discovered already, I have difficulty
numbering the compilations. I usually use a number twice; but this time, I
skipped number 136. So here it is. The next compilation that I send will
be 141.
Be sure to check out all our compilations at this address:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt
Nyla CREED DePauk
San Diego CA
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Subj: Re: Comps 136-138
Date: 97-07-04 16:57:12 EDT
From: cgaunt@umich.edu (Christine E. Gaunt)
To: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Kevin K. Stephenson)
CC: NCreed1@aol.com (Nyla Creed DePauk)
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Kevin K. Stephenson wrote:
> Chris-
> Can you send me a copy of compilations 136, 137, and 138? You don't
> have them posted yet, and I'm short one, but the numbering got messed
> up, and I need to see which one I'm short. Thanks!
>
Hi, Kevin and Nyla,
I find I don't have compilation 136. I remember there were two 135's, but
I think we had skipped 134, so one of them became 134 and the other stayed
135. Nyla, can you check to see if you sent out a 136? And if you
didn't, do you want me to renumber the compilations, or just skip 136 and
put in something like "Oops, we misnumbered. It's a good thing
that pobody's nerfect!"
I have comps 137-140 in the etc directory, just not linked on the main
page, so Kevin, if you need them, you can go to:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/etc/comp137.txt
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/etc/comp138.txt
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/etc/comp139.txt
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt/etc/comp140.txt
and you should be able to get them.
Nyla, let me know about 136.
Thanks,
Chris
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Subj: Re: Comps 136-138
Date: 07/05/97
To: cgaunt@umich.edu
Chris,
I'll send one out today. I'll make it 136. Then it should be 141 after
that. Right?
How can something so simple become so difficult?
Actually, I'm just trying to keep you and Kevin on your toes. Have a Happy
4th of July.
Nyla
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Subj: Re: changing email addresses -- THANKS!
Date: 97-07-04 14:39:04 EDT
From: AUTOPROFIT
Would you mind changing the email address for my receipt of the compilations
from
autoprofit@aol.com to
dkrainh20a@aol.com
I am splitting my email addresses to segregate my various interests. Makes
emailing and storing emails easier this way.
Debbie Anderson
Researching TURNER, RAINWATER, HISAW etc.
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Subj: Re: Comp 140 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
Date: 07/05/97
To: MAStalling
In a message dated 97-07-04 08:44:46 EDT, you write:
<< What does VIA mean??? >>
VIA, as I think about it, indicates "by way of". Like, going to California
via Route 40.
When I do a search I never get the SURNAME of VIA. I get travel info or
"common
name".
My grandmother's uncle (Capt William Turner) said his mother's people were
Dutch. Not sure what that meant. Netherlands? German? He said that his
father's family was English. I can't get beyond Capt Turner's grandfather
Via. His mother Naomi Angeline VIA was d/o William VIA.
This is a real stumper.
Nyla
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Subj: Re: Comp 140 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
Date: 97-07-04 17:55:47 EDT
From: MAStalling
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Now if I could just find
some
background on my Turners I'd be happy!
Michelle
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Michelle: Just wish I knew more about the VIAs.
Tell us what you can about your TURNERs. Hopefullly, someone can help you.
Nyla
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Subj: Burnett request
Date: 97-07-04 10:59:33 EDT
From: N4JED
Subj: Burnett descendants
Date: 97-07-04 10:57:51 EDT
From: N4JED
To: DHONBERGER
File: BURNETT.TXT (78239 bytes)
DL Time (14400 bps): < 1 minute
Donna,
You asked for it so here it is. I have attached the first 7 or 8 generations
of the
descendants of John Burnett as an ASCII file. You should be able to read it
with any
word processors. It totals about half of the 90 pages of descendants I have
for this line. (Anyone else in our group wishing this, drop me an email and
I will send it as an attached file).
Let me know if you have problems with it. Can send more if you wish...
David
n4jed@aol.com
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Subj: Re: BURNETT-TURNER-ROSS-VIA-TATE-PHILPOTT-THOMAS-ETC/ETC
List
Date: 97-07-04 06:19:22 EDT
From: destiny741@aol.com (Destiny741)
Hi Nyla!
Just checking in to say hello and see how your move went. Are you adjusting
to San
Diego?? My sister and I are getting closer on our Dunbar line. At least we
found 3 siblings to our ancestor we are searching for. I noticed you have
Ross in your line? I am looking at the possibility that our Joseph or William
Dunbar b ca 1745 married a Mary Ross (or so my 2nd great Aunt had said), she
also said she was the daughter of an Alexander Ross. (This would be SW VA).
But we are not sure if this is correct. Don't you love geneaology??
Hope all is well with you! Changes are good!
Amy in Indy :)
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FOLKS:
Any ROSS descendant able to tie into the the Alexander ROSS with a daughter
named Mary who married a DUNBAR? Sure would like to help Amy with this. She
and I have exchanged DUNBAR info. As soon as I can get time, I want to
exchange information on the CREEDs and HARVEYs from Monroe Co VA/WV with her,
too.
Nyla
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Subj: James Burnett and John Mack/Sarah Burnett, Pittsylvania County, VA
Date: 97-07-04 07:35:36 EDT
From: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Kevin K. Stephenson)
Nyla---For those few of us who are descended from the Pittsylvania County,
VA,
Burnett's, I found this on a Family Tree Maker Website. John Mack married
Sarah
Burnett3, (George Burnet2/Thomas Burnet1)who was James Burnett's(1720-
1735/1797)sister. This James Burnett was the father of James Cunningham
Burnett, who later moved to Shelby County, Kentucky. James C. Burnett's
first child, Pryor Burnett, with his first wife, Keziah Pulliam, was my third
great-grandfather. This line is the same one which was discussed in the book
"Burnetts and their Connections" by the Corkills in Texas.
>From the Family Tree Maker Website for the descendants of John Mack:
Descendants of John Mack
Generation No. I
1. John1 Mack was born 1740-1750 in Scotland, and died Nov 1816 in Maury Co,
TN. He married Sarah Burnett 9 Sep 1766 in Prince Edward Co, VA, daughter
of
George/Thomas Burnett. Notes for John Mack:
JOHN MACK, FIRST WHITE SETTLER TN MAURY COUNTY, TENNESSEE
Wm. Mack's father was (with but little doubt, if any) named John Mack.
The
inscription on the slab of native limestone which covers the grave of this
man, in a
deserted private cemetery on a knoll, now in a cattle pasture, reads thus:
Sacred to the memory of/JOHN MACK / The first of his name in this state /
Born in Scotland in
1710/Died in the 71st year of his age / An honest man, the noblest
work of God.
Out on U.S. Hwy. 31, Columbia to Pulaski and about a half-mile from the
gravesite, is a marker erected in recent years by the Tennessee Historical
Commission. The marker reads: 'First Settler. One-half mile east is the
grave/ John Mack, who reportedly settled here in 1776 or shortly after.
A blockhouse and stockade were / built around the spring a few yards
beyond the
cemetery. Other / relatives and descendants are / also buried here." It is
likely that the marker was erected after 1948 the year Judge Hugh Lee Webster
(retired) of Columbia discovered the forsaken graves. In 1957 Judge Webster
led a movement in vain to persuade the Tennessee Historical Society to
purchase the land around John Mack's settlement--thought now to be the
earliest in Middle Tennessee--for a historical park.
According to research done by Judge Webster, there was, before 1780 in
the vicinity of the spot that was soon to be John Mack's gravesite, a
settlement known as "Walker's" shown on a very old map now in Williamsburg,
Va. This settlement is credited to the famous Dr. Thomas Walker, leading
member of the Loyal Land Company, which in 1749 was granted the right "by the
Virginia Council to survey and enter 800,000 acres of land on the west
waters." Dr. Walker explored for years thereafter in the southwest wilderness
of Virginia and what is now northwestern Tennessee, and as far as the
Cumberland River in an area now the upper half of Tennessee, but then claimed
by both Virginia and N. Carolina. (It was Dr. Walker who in 1750 discovered
the "cave gap" in the Appalachian Mountains and named it Cumberland Gap for
the king's son, Duke of Cumberland. Did he also name the Cumberland River?)
Judge Webster's research uncovered in the National
Archives of Washington, D.C., the record of John Mack's Revolutionary War
service in the First Virginia State Regiment, and the payment of a bounty
before March 15, 1779. In one place he says the bounty was paid in the sum of
$150 cash.
Judge Webster believes that John Mack then travelled southwestward along
the route Dr. Walker had followed earlier and settled near Walker's furthest
penetration, on land still belonging to the Cherokee Indians. The spot was
long known as the Cave Spring because the water, flowing out of the limestone
bluff used to run about 40 to 60 feet before it emptied into a cave at the
foot of the "graveyard" hill. (Today, the spring has a pumphouse over it.)
It was about 1948 that Judge Webster discovered this historic spot for
himself and began further investigations regarding John Mack, b. 1710,
Scotland. He talked with many old-timers, one of whom was Bedford Matthews,
then 82 years of age, "the first offspring of W.R.H. 'Little Bob' Matthews to
be born after the Civil War, and named Bedford Leroy in honor of General
Nathan Bedford Forrest, under whom his father fought four years." Bedford
Matthews, all his life a resident of the community around Walker's and
Hopewell, recalled stories told him of the early settlement; how his
great-grandfather John Mack built a blockhouse at the cave spring, known as
Walker's, and enclosed the spring and branch inside a palisade; how, after
other settlers came in, all the neighbors would run to the palisade and
blockhouse when Indians would attack them.
According to Judge Webster, "The graveyard was legally laid off by the
owners of the land, Robert Mack, a son, and James Mack, a grandson, on the
22nd day of June, 1831," when they deeded the land for "the consideration of
establishing a place that shall always be free for and consecrated to
religious worship as hereinafter is more fully expressed." The conveyance
was in special trust that the three-acre plot be used for preaching and
religious worship free for the use of all denominations of Christians,
especially the Reformed or Reforming kind." (This is not the deed which set
up a place of worship on 40 poles of McCain's land, as that indenture was
made Dec.20, 18 7 between Eli McCain, owner of the land, and Wm. Mack, John
H. Zolicoffer, Adam R. Alexander, trustees.)
It is interesting to note that, according to Judge Webster's writings,
this land around the cave spring and John Mack's gravesite was once a part of
the grant made by North Carolina before that state gave up claim in 1789 to
territories now in Tennessee. In 1811 John Mack's heirs got quit claims from
John Davidson of part of an entry of 1784, and from an attorney for the heirs
of Elijah Robertson. Naturally, John Mack did not have title to the land when
he settled on it, because it was in an area not yet ceded by Cherokee Indians
to either the U.S. or North Carolina. (From "Crosthwaite Chronicles")
JOHN MACK, THE IMMIGRANT
In a small grove of trees on a knoll down a lane, one-half mile east of
a historical
marker, near McCains in Maury County, Tennessee, is an old family cemetery.
Here are found the graves of John Mack, the immigrant from Scotland, and his
wife, Sarah. The historical marker reads: "FIRST SETTLER - One-half mile east
is the grave of John Mack, who reportedly settled here in I 781 or
shortly after. A blockhouse and stockade were built around the spring a
few yards beyond the cemetery. Other relatives and descendants are also
buried here." The above date is one example of incorrect information
concerning John Mack, as will be shown later. The inscription on John Mack's
grave stone reads: "Sacred to the Memory of John Mack The first of the Name
in this State. He was born in Scotland in 1740 Died in the 74th Year of his
age An honest man the Noblest Work of God"
Adjoining the above grave is the grave of Sarah Mack. The stone marker
is broken, but the inscription reads: "Sacred to the Memory of Sarah the
only Wife of John Mack She was born in Pennsylvania and Died in the 83rd Year
of her Life A Pious Woman" Two family traditions concerning John Mack of
Scotland are: (I) he bartered for Sarah, as his bride in Pennsylvania, in
exchange for tobacco ("0 Brave Pioneer," Sara Sprott Morrow, 1975); (2) he
was a doctor (Pete Nance, Shreveport, Louisiana, Letter, 17 Aug 1975). No
proof of these stories has been found. Further, this John Mack is not
connected with the Mack family associated with Joseph Smith, the Mormon
leader.
The earliest legal record found for John Mack, the Scottish immigrant,
was his
marriage bond in Prince Edward County, Virginia, in 1766. The following is a
copy:
Know all men by these presents that we John Mack and Sarah Burnett of
Prince
Edward County are held and firmly bound unto said Lord King George the Third
by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King Defender of
the faith, and for the sum of Fifty Pounds current money to be paid to our
Lord King, his heirs and successors to the which payment will truly be made.
We bind ourselves, our heirs, executors and administrators jointly and
severally firmly by these presents.
Sealed with our seals this second day of September 1766.
Whereas a marriage is intended to be solemnized between the said bound
John Mack and Sarah Burnett the condition of this right obligation to is such
that if there be no lawful cause to obstruct the same, then this obligation
to be void else remain in full force.
Clerk's name illegible John Barksdale John Mack
John Mack was still a resident of Prince Edward County, Virginia, in
1771 when he was sued by one Henry CaIdwell. His brother-in-law James Burnett
came from
Pittsylvania County, Virginia, to appear as a witness for John. When John
Mack won the case, he was ordered by the court to pay James Burnett's costs
"for two days and once 100 miles." This amount to be equal the value of 350
pounds of tobacco. (From the files of Dr. J.C. Burnett, Kankakee, Illinois)
By 1772 John Mack was living in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. He paid
25 pounds for 140 acres of land lying on both sides of Sugartree Creek in May
1772. The land was purchased from Dutton Lain, and James Burnett with John
and James Cox witnessed the deed. (Pittsylvania County Deeds, Book 3, pp.6-8)
John Mack received a bounty of $150 for his military service in the 1st
Virginia State Regiment. He served in General Muhlenburg's Brigade from 2
February to 15 March 1779 during the Revolutionary War. (Military Records,
National Archives, Washington, D.C., No.25 M)
On 3 October 1780 John Mack sold the 140 acres along Sugartree Creek
that he had bought from Dutton Lain in 1772. Benjamin Croley purchased it for
60 pounds. Both he and Mack lived in Pittsylvania County. Sarah Mack was a
cosignor with her husband. (Pittsylvania County Deeds, Book 6, p.92)
In the 1790 North Carolina census John Mack is found on the same page as
his son James Mack in Salisbury District (Rockingham County). This proves the
historical marker in Maury County, Tennessee to be incorrect.
On 10 August 1792 John Mack of Rockingham County, N.C., bought for 80
pounds a tract of 300 acres of land north of Sandy River in Pittsylvania
County, Virginia, from Simon Adams of the same county. Witnesses were:
Gilbert Burnett and George Hawkins (brothers-in-law of John Mack), John Mack,
Jr., George Cunningham, and John Wilson. (Pittsylvania County Deeds, Book 9,
p.265).
We believe John Mack moved back to Pittsylvania County, Virginia, after
1792. In
1794 he witnessed a deed between his brother-in-law, Henry Burnett, and Mary
Shields in Pittsylvania County. He is not shown in the North Carolina census
for 1800. On 15 October 1805 John Mack, Sr. was surety for the marriage of
his son Constantine Mack in Pittsylvania County. Some time between 1805-1810
John Mack, Sr. came to Tennessee. It seems likely he may have come to
Rutherford County, Tennessee, with his son William in the spring of 1808.
Possibly he came to Wilson County, Tennessee, which adjoins Rutherford, with
William Burnett, Sarah's nephew, before June 1807. By 1810 John Mack appears
in early court records in Maury County, Tennessee. On 5 February 1813,
Washington L. Hannum and others in Davidson County, Tennessee, sold to John
Mack, Sr., John Mack, Jr., James H. Mack, and Constantine Mack of Maury
County, Tennessee, for $380 a tract of 95 acres on Little Bigby, part of
Elijah Robertson's original grant (Deed Book E., p.264. Reg. 7 April 1814,
Maury County, Tennessee). Some sources suggest the Macks were squatters on
this land earlier.
John Mack, Sr. drew up his will on 31 May 1813. (Will Book 8. p.6, Maury
County). Misreading of his will caused speculation that there were children
not named therein. We secured a copy of the original paper on which the will
was written from Box M in the Maury County Courthouse. This exact copy
resolved the confusion about the "other children."
On 8 January 1814 John Mack (Sr.) was the witness in Maury County to the
will of Thomas Parker. Some time later in 1814 John Mack, the immigrant,
died in his 74th year.
WILL OF JOHN MACK, SR., 31 MAY 1813, MAURY COUNTY, TENNESSEE
In the name of God Almighty, amen. I, John Mack of Maury County, State
of
Tennessee, being in common health and full exercise of my reason, but calling
to mind the uncertainty of Life and certainty of Death, and being desirous
while in that state to settle my worldly affairs, do make and publish this my
last will and Testament, Revoking and declaring void all others that I may
have made heretofore.
First, when it shall please God to call my Spirit hence, I request that
my Body may be decently Buried at the discretion of my Executors hereafter
mentioned, hoping in Christ that they may be joyfully reunited at the last
day.
Secondly, it is my will that all my just debts be paid in case I should
owe any.
Thirdly, all my household furniture and plantation tools of every kind
together with my part of the tract that I live on at present lying on the
waters of the Little Tombigby, I leave to my loving wife Sarah Mack for and
during the term of her natural life to use, sell, or dispose of the personal
goods as she may have occasion without account, and to take the profits of
the land. And after her decease my will is that my son Constantine Mack shall
have and hold the above mentioned half of Land to him and his Heirs forever;
as also all the residuum of the afore mentioned Personal chattles on the
condition that he takes care of his mother.
Fourthly, all my stock of horses, cows, and hogs together with all and
singular my rights, credits, dues, and lands coming from or being in the
State of Virginia, as also all the cash of which I may die possessed, I leave
and bequeath to be equally divided between James Mack, John Mack, Jr., Polly
Murphy, Robert Mack, William Mack, James H. Mack, and Sally Nance my
other children. And I do hereby appoint Robert Mack and William Mack the
Executors of this my last will and Testament. In testimony of which I have
hereunto set my hand and seal this 31st day of May 1813.
John Mack Andrew Boyd James Boyd
Copied from the original will found in Box M in loose papers in Maury County
Courthouse, Columbia, Tennessee. Also recorded in Book B. Maury County Wills,
p.6.
MACK HEIRS APPOINT AN ATTORNEY TO SELL VIRGINIA PROPERTY 1
NOVEMBER 1816, DEED BOOK 21, pp.33,34, PJTTSYLVANIA CO.
Know all men by these presents that we, James Mack, John Mack, Nathaniel
Murphy and Polly Murphy, Robert Mack, William Mack, James H. Mack,
Constantine Mack, and Sally Nance, heirs and divesees of John Mack, Sr. decd.
of the County of Maury and state of Tennessee, for good and legal causes us
unto moving, have and do by these make and appoint James Blair, of the County
of Pittsylvania and State of Virginia, our true and lawful attorney for us in
our name as the heirs, has offered to settle and adjust all matters in
controversary between us as heirs of the said John Mack, Sr. decd., and the
heirs and legal representatives of Champion Napier whether in their own name
or as representatives of said Napier, decd., or whether against our ancestors
John Mack, decd., or against any
attorney of his as far as claims or controversies may relate to any contracts
between our said ancestor and the Champion Napier, decd., and for us in our
names to convey a certain tract of land situated in the said county of
Pittsylvania sold by our ancestors to said Napier by Deed. of general
warranter or otherwise as said contract may require, and for us in our names
to demand and receive all monies due us and to give and receive receipts and
acquittances in and concerning the same so as to effectuate a full and
complete settlement of all said disputes agreeable to justice and the true
intent of said father John Mack, Sr., decd., or by any attorney of his
legally appointed for him and in his behalf and as such we recognize George ,
deceased, one certain tract or parcel of land lying in the County of
Pittsylvania and of Virginia aforesaid, and on Sandy River and bounded by the
following lines to wit: Beginning at a white oak stump below the falls of
Sandy River, thence north thirty degrees, east three hundred and twenty poles
crossing two branches to a red oak, thence the said line south seventy
degrees, east ninety-one poles crossing a branch to a white oak, thence south
five degrees, west thirty4wo poles to a red oak, thence on Sandy
River bank down said river as it meanders to the beginning, which tract or
parcel of land aforesaid containing by estimation three hundred acres, be the
same more or less. James Blair, attorney for Mack's heirs aforesaid, doth
forever warrant and defend unto said heirs and representatives and the
aforesaid heirs forever to have and to hold quiet and peaceable
possession forever uncontested with all and singular together with ways and
minerals, heredetaments and appurtenances thereunto belonging forever. In
Testimony whereof I, said James Blair, attorney for the heirs and
representatives of John Mack, deceased, aforesaid have hereunto set their
hands and affixed the seal the day and year above mentioned.
Signed, sealed, and delivered in presents of: Samuel Harvey, William (X)
Morris,
Drury Blair, James Mack, John Mack, Nathaniel Murphy, Polly Murphy, Robert
Mack, William Mack, James Harvey Mack, Constantine Mack, Sally Nance
By James Blair, their attorney in fact
At a court held for Pittsylvania County the 21st day of July 1817. This
indenture from James Blair, attorney, to John Napier, David Napier, and
Samuel Napier was presented in court and acknowledged by the said James
Blair, attorney as aforesaid, to be his act and deed and ordered to be
recorded.
Teste Will Turnstall, Clk. (source: "TO HOPE, TO
LABOR,
AND SO TO LIVE-Descendants of John Mack (1740-1814), With Some Allied
Families: WILSON, McKNITT, BREVARD, POLK, REESE, HUDSON, BURNETT" c.
1980 Mary P. Engels,1024 Hicky, Forrest City, Arkansas
Research (B.J. Miller):
p.592 of Maury County Cemeteries, per Audrey J. Massey(jeangen@ro.com) says
that Mack Cemetery is south on Pulaski Pike one mile south of McCains, turn
east on farm lane; locked gate at beginning of lane. Cemetery is behind barn
about 1/4 mile from pike on John Cothran place.
DAR Patriot Index, Vo. II has him b.c 1750 Scotland, died 1 Nov 1816 TN m.
Sarah
Burnett and was a soldier for VA.
Notes for Sarah Burnett:
Sarah Mack died at the age of 83. (Source: "War of 1812 Soldiers of
Maury Co, TN" by Garrett)
Kevin K. Stephenson
1114 Mississippi Street, #4
Lawrence, KS 66044-3188
(913)865-1586
e-mail: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu
homepage: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html
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