Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 21:34:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: NCreed1@aol.com
To: NCreed1@aol.com
Subject: Comp 194 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
Sep 1997
Greetings to Everyone,
A big welcome to the new folks. And a big thanks to everyone who has
been submitting information. Any information you care to share on your
family is greatly appreciated.
If you haven't done so already, please check out all our compilations on
Chris Gaunt's home page: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt
Thanks to Kevin, all the files have been zipped. Just be aware that the
files
are still quite large.
Nyla CREED DePauk
San Diego CA
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Subj: unsubscribe
Date: 97-09-07 18:49:13 EDT
From: szedney@burgoyne.com (Steve Zedney)
Please unsubscribe me. I haven't seen my line mentioned once in 193
compilations, so think it's not worthwhile for me to continue on. However,
I would love to hear from anyone familiar with the Cleveland Co, NC
Turners.
Thanks,
Steve Zedney
szedney@burgoyne.com
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Steve:
I found one marriage record for Turners in Cleveland Co NC:
Turner, Ross B. Spouse : Mcbrayer, Miriah
Marriage date : 22 Apr 1841
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Subj: Josiah OR Joseph Turner children?
Date: 97-09-07 21:32:51 EDT
From: HarrisSEM@aol.com
Hi! In regards to David's inquiry as to which children belong to which
family-either Josiah Hunter Turner and Drucilla Philpott Turner OR Joseph
Turner and Liddie Nowlin, this is what I have that can definitely be
substantiated:
In the 1830 Franklin Co., census Josiah and Drucilla have 10 children.
In the 1840 census, Josiah and Drucilla have 6 children. Obviously, some
have married and moved away from home.
In the 1850 census, however, there are names and this is what is listed:
visit 1382: Josiah Turner - age 66
Drusila - age 59
John P. - age 22
William - age 20
Samuel H. Turner - age 17
visit 1383: Martha Lackey - age 38 ( also lists her 5 children)
visit 1393: Josiah Turner, Jr.- age 28 ( also lists wife, Malinda, and 2
children)
visit 1394 James Turner - age 34 ( also lists wife Sarah)
I also have an excerpt of a copy of the "Marriage Bonds of Franklin Co.,
Va 1786-1858" by Marshall Wingfield. On page 138, it says:
"Lackey, Wm. and Martha Turner, Sept. 11, 1835. Sur. Josiah Turner"
Married by John Turner.
On page 155 it says,
"8 July 1837 McGuffen , Joseph and Mary Ann Turner. Surety Josiah
Turner. Married by John Turner,
On page 228 it says:
" Turner, Josiah H., s. Wm., and Sarah Turner, dau. Isiah, Dec. 4, 1843.
Sur. Meshack Turner."
The part about "s. Wm" is a mistake that was recorded in error. This
Josiah H. is Josiah Hunter Turner, Jr who married Sarah Turner first, then
Malinda ( see above). His father, Josiah Hunter Turner, Sr. was Wm's
son.
The Sur. Meshack Turner was most likely Josiah Hunter Turner, Jr.'s
brother.
Since I only have excerpts, I'm sure that there is further information in the
entire book if someone has it.
Just as a note of interest, the John Turner who performed two of the
above marriages was probably the Rev. John Turner who was Josiah
Hunter Turner Sr.'s brother.
Hopefully, this will show that at least 4 of the children in dispute- Martha,
Mary Ann, John P., and Samuel H. were the children of Josiah and Drucilla
rather than Joseph and Liddie.
Sherry
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Sherry: Thanks much for that information. Nyla
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Subj: Re: Comp 192 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
Date: 97-09-07 21:44:39 EDT
From: MMay722215
I wanted you to know that, thanks to your newsletter, I have been
contacted by Anna Moseley, aka AMose17325@aol.com. Both of us are
descended from the most mysterious Aaron Turner of Henry County, GA.
Turns out that Anna and I grew up in the same community, although we
didn't know each other. We still don't know anything much about Aaron,
but two heads are no doubt better than one. I love to find living relatives!
So THANKS!
Mary Ellen May
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Mary Ellen: Finding a live relative is definitely a prize. Glad to know
there
is someone who can help you with your mysterious Aaron Turner.
And you're WELCOME. -- Nyla
I found two marriage records for Aaron Turner in Henry Co GA.
Marriages occurred 10 days apart.
Henry Co GA marriages:
Turner, Aaron Spouse : King, Nancy
Marriage date : 14 Oct 1838
Turner, Esther Spouse : Turner, Aaron
Marriage date : 24 Oct 1838
Turner, Aaron Spouse : King, Nancy [Mrs]
Marriage date : 14 Oct 1838
Turner, Aaron Spouse : Turner, Esther
Marriage date : 24 Oct 1838
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Subj: Phooey!
Date: 97-09-08 14:08:46 EDT
From: HarrisSEM
To: NCreed1
Hi! Well, I went to the library this morning like I said I was going to do,
and was unable to find any more marriages etc that might show that Josiah
and Drucilla's kids were theirs rather than those of Joseph Tuner and
Liddie. So, what I sent you last night is all that I can contribute.
Hopefully
someone else will be able to show proof of parentage for the other kids in
question!
Sherry
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Folks: Anyone recognize the family of Joseph and Liddie (Nowlin)
Turner? I'd sure like to hear from others who have this family listed in
their data base. Nyla
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Subj: TURNER list answers
Date: 97-09-08 20:54:38 EDT
From: N4JED@aol.com
To: VA TRAPPER@aol.com
CC: NCreed1@aol.com
Cindy,
Thanks for the questions. Lets see if I can correct them for you and
everyone.
The death date of Jeremiah TURNER - 429 and his wife Rachel ROSS -
435.
According to Rosalie Davis in her book "The Garth Family 1734-
1986" Rachel Ross died 22 May 1852 and Jeremiah died between 1825 and
1830. The 22 May date I listed for Jeremiah I copied from a posting in
Compilation #130 without paying attention to both being listed the same. I
believe the #130 listing to be a typo and I have corrected my listing to
match Ms. Davis who's research of the 1830 census finds Rachel head of
household.
Excony TURNER - 495 and Mary TURNER- 498 sisters and daughters of
Shadrack TURNER both being married to the same man - William
TURNER.
Yes, research given me by Eunice Kirkman who has done quite a bit
of work in the heart of TURNER country (Patrick and Henry Counties)
and others have these two sisters married to William. Shadrack lists Mary
and William as married in his will and after Mary dies in 1810 in KY,
William married her sister Excony. This brings up another error in my
data. William HUNTER, Jr. - 901 and William HUNTER (should read Jr.
also) - 492 should be one and the same person. Several other people have
contributed listings of this line in Nyla's compilations that should provide
additional details.
Death of Margaret Hill - 508.
Please pardon my two finger typing. You are correct her death did not
occur "before 1777". That should read "before 1797" which is when
Shadrack married again. Margaret married Shadrack in 1777 and Jane
unknown married him in 1797..
Thanks for your help in catching my errors. After imputing over 17,000
people - most provided by you the participants in Nyla's mailing list - I am
surprised at how well I have done. This is reason why I tell people to use
my postings as a starting point for their research not as the end result.
While I continue to refine my master list, there will always be questionable
data and outright speculation in it. So enjoy and happy hunting.
David Jones n4jed@aol.com
TURNER, STOVALL, PEDIGO, CORN, BURNETT, ROSS,
HANCOCK, MADDOX, DALTON, HUGHES, HATCHER, SINK and
many more just on my mother's side.
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Cindy,
Way to go! It sure is great to know someone is reading these
compilations. We've got to keep David on his toes. He sure keeps me in
the hot seat enough. Nyla
David, Just teasing. You're doing better with two fingers than I'm doing
with ten. Thanks for all your contributions. Nyla
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