Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 21:54:42 EST
From: NCreed1 <NCreed1@aol.com>
To: NCreed1@aol.com
Subject: Comp 245 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
2 Nov 1997
Greetings:
The eMails are still coming. To date, 94 responses have been received. That
represents 64 females and 30 males. So, 68% of those responding are females,
while 32% are males. We have 51% of the mailing list subscribing? Will the
remaining 49% please respond. All you need to send is the following:
Gender: Male or Female
Age Category: (under 30) (30-50) (50+)
Occupation:
Status: Amateur Genealogist, Professional Genealogist, or any other category
that best describes you.
Those are easy questions. Please take a couple of minutes and respond.
Nyla CREED DePauk
San Diego CA
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Subj: Re: TURNERs in Dekalb Co.,TN
Date: 97-11-01 23:38:12 EST
From: N4JED
To: tturner@mail.state.tn.us
Tony,
The TURNER I listed in Dekalb Co. TN is not in my line of TURNERs
but comes from the James TURNER line from Bedford Co., VA. Perhaps
others can fill in more of his descendants as I have nothing beyond him
and his wife. He is number 6 below.
I have many TURNERs in my line listed in TN; but, of the ones I have a
county for most are in Macon Co., Tn. Hope this is of some help.
David
Descendants of James Isiah TURNER , Capt.-1202
First Generation
1. James Isiah TURNER , Capt.-1202 was born about 1776 in
Albemarle Co., VA. He died 1825 in Wilson Co., TN. James inherited
land in Montgomery (later Floyd) County Virginia which he sold and
moved to Tennessee in the earily 1800's. James married (1) Elizabeth
HARRIS-6973, daughter of William HARRIS-16292 and Sara ___-16293
on 17 Jan 1796 in Patrick Co., VA. Elizabeth was born about 1780 in VA.
She died 1796. They had the following children:
+ 2 F i. Sarah TURNER-1201.
James also married (2) Ann REEVES-7873, daughter of George
REEVES-7874 and Mary ___-7875 on 26 Dec 1796 in Patrick Co., VA.
Ann was born about 1780 in VA. She died in TN.
They had the following children:
3 F ii. Elizabeth TURNER-7878 was born
about 1797 in VA. She died after 1870. Elizabeth married (1) Robert
MCKEE-8491 on 24 Oct 1820 in Wilson Co., TN.
4 M iii. Jeremiah TURNER-7876 was born
1799 in VA. Jeremiah married (1) Nancy HANCOCK-8492 on 15 Feb
1820 in Wilson Co., TN.
5 F iv. Mary "Polly" TURNER-8493 was
born about 1802 in VA. Mary married (1) Elijah PARSONS-8494 on 13
Apr 1816 in Wilson Co., TN.
6 M v. John TURNER-7877 was born 1803
in Patrick Co., VA. He died before 1857 in Dekalb Co., TN. John married
(1) Katherine TURNEY-8495 about 1824.
7 F vi. Lucinda TURNER-7879 was born
1805 in VA. Lucinda married (1) George PHILLIPS-8497 on 21 Mar
1822 in Wilson Co., TN.
8 M vii. Francis TURNER-7880 was born
1804 in Patrick Co., VA. He died after 1870. Francis married (1)
Elizabeth TURNER-8496 on 1821 in TN.
9 M viii. James TURNER-8498 was born 30
Jul 1808 in VA. He died 1 Jan 1889 in Wilson Co., TN. James married (1)
Catherine ROBINSON-8499 about 1829 in Wilson Co., TN.
10 F ix. Anna TURNER-7881 was born 1811
in Patrick Co., VA. Anna married (1) Rowland BURKES-8500 about
1830 in Wilson Co., TN.
11 F x. Susannah TURNER-7882 was born
29 Dec 1816 in Wilson Co., TN. She died 25 Jun 1857 in Wilson Co., TN.
Susannah married (1) William JONES-8501 on 23 Mar 1835 in Wilson
Co., TN. ...END...
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Subj: Re: Lewis BURNETT
Date: 97-11-02 00:13:16 EST
From: N4JED
To: MKelley345
CC: NCreed1
Margaret, Don't remember seeing your line before but I have one Lewis
BURNETT listed in my data. Any chance he is your connection? By the way,
have a group of KELLEYs in the Patrick - Henry database in the 1850's
married to the TURNERs and the INGRAMs. Are these yours? David
Descendants of Lewis BURNETT-6767
First Generation
1. Lewis BURNETT-6767. Lewis married (1) Susannah CANNADAY-6768.
They had the following children:
2 F i. Delila A. BURNETT-6766 was born 1865 in Patrick
Co., VA. Delila married (1) John Stephen TURNER -6756, son of Stephen Hubbard
TURNER-947 and Malissa Ruth TURNER -946 on 13 Nov 1898 in Patrick Co., VA.
John was born 1861 in Patrick Co., VA. ...END...
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I have a few more children listed as Descendants of Lewis Burnett. Nyla
1 Lewis Burnett b: Abt. 1810 in VA
+Susannah Cannaday b: 1821 in Patrick Co VA m: 28 Sep 1839 in Patrick
Co VA Father: William "Patrick Billy" Cannaday Mother: Martha "Patsy"
Wright
2 Nancy J Burnett b: Abt. 1841 in Patrick Co VA
+Steven Foley m: 03 Sep 1858 in Patrick Co VA
2 Jeremiah Burnett b: 24 Apr 1842 in Patrick Co VA d: 22 Sep 1927 2
James M Burnett b: Abt. 1844 in Patrick Co VA
2 John R Burnett b: 1846
2 Martha Burnett b: Abt. 1847 in Patrick Co VA
2 Samuel G Burnett b: Abt. 1850 in Patrick Co VA
2 Lucy E Burnett b: Abt. 1851 in Patrick Co VA
2 Steven Benjamin Burnett b: Abt. 1853 in Patrick Co VA
2 Sparrell G Burnett b: Abt. 1855 in Patrick Co VA
2 Florence Burnett b: 13 Dec 1857 in Patrick Co VA
2 Thomas B Burnett b: Abt. 1860 d: Bef. 1870
2 Virgil T Burnett b: 31 Oct 1862
+Mary E Via m: 31 Oct 1862 Father: R Via Mother: E
Unknown
2 Delila A Burnett b: Abt. 1865
+John S Turner m: 13 Nov 1898 Father: Stephen Hubbard Turner
Mother: Malissa Ruth "Mi Ruth" Turner
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Subj: Re: Hardin TURNER
Date: 97-11-02 00:14:46 EST
From: N4JED
To: BLACK@globe.com
CC: NCreed1
Terri,
I have several Harden TURNERs and a lot of H. initials in my Turner
listing. Can you please send a little more of the line so I can look for
a tie? Thanks for humoring me <grin> as Nyla puts it. David
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Subj: Re: Comp 237 - Survey
Date: 97-11-02 09:11:50 EST
From: bobdand@erols.com (Bob Dandridge)
To: NCreed1@aol.com
Nyla; Here are my stats:
<snip>
I've really appreciated David's help with my line in the past! Would
love to hear from anyone else who might have information on Lucy A.
Turner (b:1860 or 1864) dau. of William H. Turner (b:1825)and his wife
Margaret Jane McGhee (b:abt1833); William's parents, Andrew H. Turner
(b:1797) and Frances Holland.
Thanks Nyla for all your work as well.
Regards, Bob
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Bob: I found another daughter of William H and Margaret Jane McGhee named
Betty born 1873 who married Wesley Belcher born 1873. That's the only
child I had for William and Margaret. I also have Frances being the
daughter of Martin McGhee. I found this note, but am not certain how it
fits. John Holland m. Mary Smith 2 Jan 1797 Franklin Co VA. Have noted
that John may be John Meador Holland. Sorry, I don't have more to share.
Nyla
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Subj: Rev. James Turner, Presbyterian Minister
Date: 97-11-02 03:44:02 EST
From: VFTurner2
To: NCreed1
On 97-09-30, Eunice B. Kirkman referred to "Old James" Turner and his
grandson, James, who was a famous Presbyterian minister. There is a great
deal written about him in the book, "Leftwich-Turner Families and Their
Connections"
Rev. James Turner, the oldest son of Richard Turner and Nancy Johns, was born
May 7, 1759. He married Sally Leftwich, daughter of Col. William Leftwich,
Aug. 25, 1779. The death notice from Rev. James Turner's Bible states: "Died
in his own house Tuesday evening, January 8, 1828, about 9 oclock, the Rev.
James Turner in his 69th year, and for many years officiated with the Rev.
James Mitchell as Pastor to the Peak's Congregation."
A long biographical sketch, by Rev. William D. Foote, D.D., taken from
"Sketches of Virginia, Historical and Biographical", which was published
in 1885., is reprinted in the book. Children of James TURNER and Sally
LEFTWICH are:
1. Mary TURNER, b: Aug 25, 1779; d. Jan 10, 1848; m: John HOPKINS, Sep
2,
1800.
2. Elizabeth TURNER, b. Jul 10,1781; d. Jul 11, 1810; m. Price HOPKINS,
Oct 13, 1801.
3. Rev. William Leftwich TURNER, b. Fec 11, 1782; d. Oct 18, 1813; m.
Nancy
ALEXANDER. He was also a Presbyterian Minister.
4. Jesse TURNER, b. Jan 11, 1785; d. Jan 15, 1785
5. James TURNER, b. Jan 15, 1786; d. Sep, 1786
6. Jesse Hopkins TURNER, b. Jan 1, 1788; d. Mar 11, 1863
7. Nancy Johns TURNER, b. Nov 22, 1789; d. May 30, 1790
8. Nancy Johns TURNER, b. Jan. 8, 1792; d. Apr. 22, 1850; m. Rev.
Robert HALL of Ohio
9. Dr. James Gardiner TURNER, b. Mar 8, 1794; d. Jan 14, 1869, m.
Elizabeth P. KEY, Jun 18, 1825. He was practicing physician at Rocky Mount,
Virginia before
removing to Texas.
10. John Calvin TURNER, b. May 11, 1797; d. Oct 7, 1808
11. a son, name not known, b. Dec 10.1798; d. Dec 30, 1798
12. Melancthon TURNER, b. Dec 22, 1799; d. Aug 26, 1817 or 1819
13. Sally Leftwich TURNER, b. Dec 29, 1801, d. Mar. 22, 1828
14. Mildred Otey TURNER, b. Nov. 22, 1804; d. Jul 20, 1889; m. Thomas
Lumpkin LEFTWICH, (a cousin) Dec 22. 1829.
There were number of the descendents of Rev. James TURNER, who became
Ministers in the Presbyterian Church. If anyone is interested in further
reading about this family, the above named book is available on microfilm, and
can be ordered through a local LDS FHC, among other places. I found it at the
Sutro Library, a State of California facility in San Francisco.
Vernon F. Turner (a descendent of "Old James", and also a Presbyterian)
Menlo Park, CA
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Subj: Re: Rev. James Turner, Presbyterian Minister
Date: 97-11-02 11:10:39 EST
From: VFTurner2
The information I have is that Rev. William Henry Foote, published "Sketches
of Virginia, Historical and Biographical" in 1885. There must have been a
number of them, because the reference for the Rev. James Turner article is
Chapter XIV, Second Series.
In the post that propted me to write this piece, mentioned that one of the
Gilley letters stated:
"Foote in his 1854 volume, which I saw in the St.Louis City Library . . . "
This would indicate to me that Foote was publishing something over at least a
30 year period. I don't know if had the same title.
I don't know if this is a help, but that is all I know.
Vern Turner
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Vern and David: Ask and you shall receive. Nyla
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Subj: Re: rewriting history
Date: 97-11-02 14:24:54 EST
From: N4JED
Nyla,
In post #233 you listed descendants of Edmond Lilly. Under the 4th generation
you list Dora F. Lilly marrying George Kaskie Sweeney. If, in fact , he was
born in July 1861, please correct his information to show him born in VIRGINIA
as WV did not yet exist. <grin again> David
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David. You catch that on me time after time. I know when West "By God"
Virginia
became a State - 20 June 1863. You just love it when I make that mistake.
<grin>
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Subj: Re: How many John TURNERs to....
Date: 97-11-02 14:24:53 EST
From: N4JED
To: sky@gulf.net
CC: NCreed1
Sharon and many others out there, I do not remember if I have seen your
line on our group yet but could you send some of it soon? I have 56 John
TURNERs in my own database and I am sure others have more. On another
note, I have a bunch of YODER friends here in the Roanoke Valley. You got
any relatives on that line here in VA? David
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Subj: Re: Family business
Date: 97-11-02 14:24:51 EST
From: N4JED
CC: Sharaim
As I read Sharon's comments on home made "whisky" it reminded me of attending
the Allied Families gatherings with my grandmother in the 60's. She would sit
there naming people going by and what they did ...several whom she called
moonshiners (and they truely looked the role to a kid). Later on, as an
architect I used to keep a glass bottle of the clear stuff at my drawing
board. It was the best drawing pen cleaner I ever found. Even beats the
modern ultrasonic cleaners. ...Got to make you wonder what that stuff does
to people's insides if it eats dried ink that fast.
David
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Subj: Humor David
Date: 97-11-02 12:00:22 EST
From: jerrylou@cyberhighway.net (Jerry Patterson)
<snipped all the info for the poll> I have some people fooled; they think
I'm a professional. Sorry, this is late. We just got back from the
Celtic Highland Games in Tucson. I Represent the House of Burnett in
Arizona. I have collected a lot of information on Burnetts from Census and
Books. Right now I'm concentrating on my Mother's Family line. The more
Genealogy you find the more names you find to research. I have numerous
names. I have discovered a lot of my cousins by doing Genealogy. My
Father was an only child. I had six siblings. My Sister that was two
years younger then me passed away in 1991.
Keep up the good work, Nyla.
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Jerry: You're not late at all. Tell us more about the Celtic Highland Games.
This is all very new to me. Nyla
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Subj: Re: Comp #240 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
Date: 97-11-02 11:57:09 EST
From: Flosnotes
Sorry took so long to reply - due to work I am out of the area for periods
of time. I am new to looking for ancestors. Number of lines. the one of
interest to this group is that of TURNER. John Ray born 1859 in
Springfield MO married a Euna HOWELL whose daughter married a GAIN and
then we find the FRIZZELL family that is on my man's side my family names
include: THOMPSON, HUNTINGTON, MUILENBURG.
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Subj: Poll
Date: 97-11-02 18:02:01 EST
From: ROMONA T
Dear Nyla,
Just got caught up on reading the comps, and wanted to submit info for the
survey you and David are doing. I am <age snipped> years old, and a
<occupation snipped>. I am <genealogy status snipped> who began my research
almost 20 years ago, on my father's side of the family in Patrick County, VA,
listening to my grandmother talk about the people and relatives in Patrick. I
have made many trips to Patrick Co, and fell in love with the area and the
people there!! Unfortunately, my husband and one daughter are not interested
in genealogy, I "burned them out" going over "hill and dale" looking for old
family cemeteries!!
Thanks for all the work you are doing to help preserve the heritage of our
families!!
Romona Turner Hartley (you can print my name)
Hurricane, WV
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Subj: William Green Turner-6715
Date: 97-11-02 17:39:14 EST
From: ROMONA T
Dear Nyla,
I am not a subscriber, but I frequently "tune in" to review the
compilations on the Turner/Ross/Via families. I truly appreciate all the
information that is included in these comps, and the amount of work
involved!!
I am a Turner descendant of William Green Turner-6715(David's number) and
his wife, Mary Jane Vaughan-6978. I hope someone can help me with the
following question. According to Comp 202A-Revised, the parents of
William Green Turner are listed as William Turner-912 and Elizabeth
Philpott-927. I have been researching my Turner line for 19 Years now,
and I have never been able to find documentation and/or proof of my
William Green Turner's parents. I had been told that one source of
documentation was a letter he wrote home to his mother during the Civil
War. However, if Elizabeth Philpott died 11 Dec 1837, then William would
not have been writing home to her!!
Would you please post this inquiry? My Turner line has really "stumped" me!!
Thank you in advance.
Romona Turner Hartley
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Romona: Of course, I'll post your inquiry. Glad to see you got off the
bleachers and joined us. Want to subscribe? Nyla
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Subj: Poll, Comments
Date: 97-11-02 17:32:32 EST
From: nettie@erols.com (Nettie S. Clifton)
<poll info snipped>
Dear Nyla,
I enjoy the compilations very much. Sometimes I have difficulty keeping
up with them. Like this time, I was away for 8 days and just got to
read Comps 234 thru 241, all at once. Nice to read all of the comments
of the other researchers.
I work on Patrick Co VA families and some nearby counties. Most of my
work is from printed works, and copies of public records some of which I
make myself and some graciously sent by others. Always willing to share.
Interested mainly in my husband's ancestors: Clifton, Martin, Rakes,
Cockram, Boyd, Ingram, Hancock, Edwards, Vipperman, Williams, Turner,
Wood Williams and many others.
Am looking for my maternal ancestors of Henry Jefferson b c1808 and wife
Minerva Ann b 1810. Lived and died in Alexandria VA.
Many thanks to you and to all of the others who share such good
information.
Nettie Clifton
Catonsville MD
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Subj: Humor Nyla & David!!!
Date: 97-11-02 15:28:40 EST
From: KYMartin@compuserve.com (Kathe Martin)
Hi Nyla,
Once again, thanks for all the work you put into this. Somehow I did not
get several messages which included your survey request--compilations #35
and 36. I downloaded them from Chris's web page.
I got into genealogy two years ago. My parents own a trailer on a gorgeous
part of Smith Mountain Lake near Roanoke. Over Labor Day, 1995, we got
stuck inside because it rained all weekend during our vacation there. My
mother has been looking into the genealogy of our family since the early
80's, when she implored my help since I then lived on Capitol Hill in DC
and could easily get to the archives. It just sounded all so boring! It
wasn't until I had nothing else to do that I picked up her research to look
through it. I couldn't put it down and have been actively at it since that
time. My goal is to 1) find out where Shadrach came from and who his
parents were and 2) to develop a database of all his descendents. My father
grew up on a farm next to where we believe Shadrach lived. His cousins
lived there and he often visited there as a child. It is bringing together
my love of analysis, history and family.
<snipped poll info>
Look forward to hearing all the responses.
Kathe Y. Martin
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Kathe: Is that a new eMail address? I don't have you on our mailing list
under that screen name. Nyla
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