Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:45:25 EST
From: NCreed1 <NCreed1@aol.com>
To: NCreed1@aol.com
Subject: Comp 272 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc

19 December 1997

Greetings to Everyone:

Hope everyone is enjoying the holiday season and have time to update their
genealogy.   Anything you care to share on your family will be appreciated.

Remember to check out all our compilations on Chris Gaunt's home page:
	(http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt

Thanks to Kevin, all the files have been zipped.  

Please keep those eMails coming my way.

Nyla CREED DePauk
San Diego CA

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Subj:	 Happy Holidays!
Date:	97-12-14 19:01:03 EST
From:	sciototrails@USA.net (Allen Richmond)
Reply-to:	sciototrails@USA.net

Howdy Nyla & Cousins:

Just a note to say HAPPY HOLIDAYS Y'ALL and to let you know of a 
change in email addresses. My _primary_ address is now 

<< sciototrails@usa.net >>

though my former address is still active (pending the phase-over to
sciototrails@usa.net). By 01 Jan 1998, that phase-over should be
complete (I hope).

Best wishes for a generationally-filled 1998, and may those brick 
walls come a-tumblin' down!  ;-)

Thanks!
Allen Richmond
sciototrails@usa.net

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Subj:	 RE: Comp #271 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
Date:	97-12-15 00:50:03 EST
From:	chickflet@aristotle.net (chickflet)
To:	NCreed1@aol.com

Reply to Bert Edens:  Are you related to the Edens from Madison County,
Arkansas that married into the Burnett family from Madison County?

Georgia Burnett Fletcher

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Subj:	Re: Comp #271 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
Date:	97-12-15 02:02:36 EST
From:	Bervi

Nyla,

In a message dated 12/14/97 9:08:53 PM, you wrote:

>Nyla, I'm lost____
>I've gone to look for
>myself.  If I should return
>before I get back, please
>ask me to wait.
>
>Submitted by Johnny Turner
>
>=========================
>Johnny:   What makes you think I'll recognize you?  <grin>  Nyla
>
>==========================

You'll recognize him because he looks just like himself!!!!!!
(Unless of course he's not himself when he returns, tho if he is himself, but
is just not feeling himself...<ouch>) etc, etc, etc....

I LOVE it!!!!

Peter Ramsey <Bervi@aol.com>

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Peter & Johnny:    You guys are too much!  Nyla

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Subj:	 New subscriber
Date:	97-12-18 12:30:46 EST
From:	msb@myfamily.org (Barbara Farthing Bonham)
Reply-to:	msb@myfamily.org
To:	ncreed1@AOL.COM (Nyla Creed)
CC:	baltom@nova1.net

Nyla:	Happy Holidays!
Please add         baltom@nova1.net  to your Turner etc. mailing list.

Your cousin,
Barbara Bonham

--
Barbara Farthing Bonham
Summerville, SC
Cherry Stone Creek
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9515

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Subj:	 RE: COMPILATIONS
Date:	97-12-19 03:06:11 EST
From:	kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (Kevin K. Stephenson)
To:	hubie19@pop1.rcsntx.swbell.net ('Hugh and Sandy Sellers')

Hugh and Sandy-
	I've just finished finals for the semester (I'm a law student at KU) and I'm
going to update the site in the next few days and put the latest and greatest
on there.  I've heard that several people have had trouble with the "self-
executing" files I put up there a couple of weeks ago, so I'm planning on
changing them back to the zipped files that you
download and then use a zip utility on to open.  
	Chris Gaunt has the entire set on her website, and has a search engine there
for you to use to hunt for specific names.  I am working on getting ahold of a
small program that will search multiple text files, and I will make this
available on my site later on if I can.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Hugh and Sandy Sellers [SMTP:hubie19@pop1.rcsntx.swbell.net]
Sent:	Monday, December 15, 1997 12:33 PM
To:	kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu
Subject:	COMPILATIONS

Kevin,
What a fine job you have done compiling the messages to the TURNER, etc
mailing list....questions:
1) Are the various files indexed anywhere?
2) Can one "get" files individually, in other words I have downloaded
through the comp150 and when the site is updated, can I get the newer
files?

I cannot subscribe to lists as my EMAIL address changes with each
transmittal of messages so that automatic processors do not recognize
the registration.

The RUDDs in my GATEWOOD file start with William of Shorpshire, Eng and
are LDS people, if you are interested.
REgards,
***************************************************************
"A people who takes no pride in the nobel achievements of remote
ancestors will never achieve anything worthy to be remembered with
pride of remote descendants."   Lord Macaulay
**********************************************
Sandy Shields Sellers, P.O. Box 17664, Austin, Texas 78760
   EMAIL <hubie19@swbell.net>
************

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Subj:	 Please forward the following query to the Turner Group. (fwd)
Date:	97-12-19 06:39:48 EST
From:	cgaunt@umich.edu (Christine E. Gaunt)

Nyla,
	Did you already get a copy of this?  I don't see your email address
listed.  Figured you could take off the many addresses and put this in the
next compilation. :-)

Chris

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:50:57 -0800
From: DeCody Brad Marble <MarbleDB@interoz.com>
Subject: Please forward the following query to the Turner Group.

Subject: Turner Genealogy
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:01:55 -0500
From: Linda Jones <JONESL@CCISD3.CCF.ORG>
To: MarbleDB@interoz.com

Please forward the following query to the Turner Group.

I am interested in recreating family grouping of the Turner slaves.  My
gggg-grandmother Jemima "Mima" Turner Jones was given to Allen S.
Turner, son of Shadrach Turner upon his decease in Lincoln County Georgia, 31
December 1844.  Although the minutes of the inferior court listed some
family groupings, Mima was listed alone.

Mima remained on the "Durrette Plantation" where Allen S. Turner was the
overseer, and Dr. Joel L. Turner was the Owner of the plantation in Hart
County Ga.  I have reviewed guardianship records whereas Mima was hired
out to other plantations, but unable to locate family listing.

Jemima Turner born ca 1830's, census record stated born in Georgia, but
dau d.c. listed S.C. as place of her mo's birthplace.  Eldest child was
named Diana Jones, and one daughter named Savanah married Rev. Alfred Waller.
There are other children listed in the 1870 census, Betsy, Daniel, Laura,
Clarisy. 

Please share with me any info you have on Turner slaves whether they are
listed above or not.    Thank you.

Linda Jonnes
jonesl@ccisd3.ccf.org
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Subject: Turner
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:51:14 -0500
From: Linda Jones <JONESL@CCISD3.CCF.ORG>
To: MarbleDB@interoz.com

Dear Brad:  I know you probably think I am not a true genealogist not
getting back to you like I promised, but the Annual Christmas Flu has me
a little under the weather.  I looked at my records and what I have on
Shadrack Truern is not a will, but in fact records from the INferior
Court, Lincoln County Ga.  It is as follows:

George Lincoln County

By virture of an order from the Honorable the Inferior Court of said
county when sitting for orgindary purposes on the first Monday in November
last
to us as indication another ?? and requiring us to make distribution of the
Negroes belonging to the estate of Shadraack Turner late of said county
deceased among distributes of said estate, we proceeded on this day to
the performance of that duty, we ascertained that there were six
distributions to wit:  Mary Turner widow and relict of said Shadrack Turner
deceased,
William H Turner son of said Shadrach Turner deceased of full age,
Martha H. Seal formerly Martha H Turner daughter of said deceased and wife of
Presley N Seal.  Josel S. Turner son of said deceased represented by
Elice Lockhart, Delia Turner guardian of John W and Katherine Ann Turner
minors of John Turner deceased and grandchildren of said Shadrach Turner
deceased and Allen S. Turner minor said Shadrach Turner deceased represented
by
Aaron Hardy and William H. Turner administrators of said Shadrach Turner
deceased.  The shares were numbered 1,2,3,4,5, ab and was assigned to
the distribution in the following manner to wit.  By a written agreement
among the distributors of said estate Lot Number 1 assigned to Mary Turner as
her full distribution of said estate, the names of the other distributors
were written on a piece of paper and placed in a hat and the numbers 2,3,4,5,
& 6 were written on another piece of paper and placed in another hat and
the hats were shaken and a name was then drawn from the hat containing the
names and then a number was drawn from the hat containing the numbers. 
The folowing was the result.  No. 2 - Mrs. Delia Turner guardian for John W
and Catherine Ann Turner, #3 William K Turner, #4 Joel L Turner, #5 Allen S
Turner and #6 Presley N Seals. 

No. 2 consisted of the following Negroes and wit:  George a feloow, Aggy
a woman and there three children to wit. Seborn, Amos, & Fayette and
Solomon valued at $2000.

No. 3 consisted of Billy a fellow, Nancy a Woman and her four children
to wit.  Tom, Isabel, Delia and Evaline, Mary Ann; Sinday and her child
John valued at $2050.

No. 4 consisted of Harry a fellow, Nelly a woman and her three children
to wit, Julia, Anderson and William.  Harriet a girl and Ned a boy valued
at $2000.

No. 5 consisted of Alvin a felow, Saline a woman and her three children
to wit Andrew, Frederick and Judson.  Evaline and MIMA valued at $2025.

No. 6 consisted of Jack, Isaac, Jane, Ammanda, Mitty, Bobby, Betty and
Alsey valued at $2050.

No. 1 consisted of Toby, Daniel Laura, and child Georgiana, Mary Ellen
and four children to wit, Henry, Charles and Gabriel and Betsy a woman
matured. $2963.

No. 4 pays No. 2 thirty-five dollars, No. 3 pays No. 2 five dollars and
No. 5 five dollars; No. 6 pays No. 5 ten dollars.

In the above distribution, the summ of seven hundred and twenty five
dollars advanced to John W. Turner deceased, father of John W and
Catherine Ann Turner was not taken into consideration, but is left to be
settled
by Aaron Shard and William H Turner the administrators of Shadrack Turner
deceased and Deliea Turner, guardian of said John W. and Catherine Ann
Turner.

31 December, 1844

Commifi????
Ben B. Moon
Harvey Wheat
Frances L Fleming

Georgia Lincoln County} I hereby certify that the above commisioners
were duly sworn before they proceeded to make the above foregoing
distribution
31 December 1844.

Willy M. Casley, JP.

Recorded this 11th July 1845.  H Henderson Clrk.C.O..
Robert Henderson
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Subject:  Turners
Date:  Tue, 16 Dec 1997 09:46:22 -0500
From:  Linda Jones <JONESL@CCISD3.CCF.ORG>
To:  MarbleDB@interoz.com

Brad, this is the only other copy of a legal document I have on the
Turners.  It is useless to me, but may be useful to someone else.

Inferior Court to Dr. J. L. Turner.

Georgia; Hart Couny} Persuant to the Statute of AD 1854 after public
notice made in the Southern Banner (Athens Ga) & other papers of public print
on the sixth date of July Eighteen Hundred & Fifty-four. H.L. Chandler Jos
V Richardson Micajah Carter & Clayton Webb Justises of the Inferior Court
of said count at the county site of said county did put up and expose to
sale Town Lots No. 10 in the town of Hartwell County site of said county
containing 1.4 of an acre more or less when Dr. JL Turner being the
highest bidder said Town Lot was knocked off to him at & for the price of
Seventy Dollars now therefore this indenture made and entered into this 5 Day
of
December Eighthundred & fifty four between the Said Justises of the
Inferior Court of said county & their Successors in office for & in
bhalf of said county  of the one part and Dr. JL Turner of the other part
witnesseth that for & in consideration of the sum of Seventy Dollars in
hand paid at and before the sealing of these presents the receipt
whereof is hereby acknowledged the said Justises of the Inferior Court
aforesaid
hath & oath by these presents grant bargain sell & convey unto the said
Dr. JL Turner all that town lot situated lying & being in the town of
Hartwell County site of said county known in the plan of said town lots by No
10
containing 1/4 of an acre more less with all the right rights members &
opportenances to said town Lot in anywise appertaining or belonging to
have and to hold & to take hold the said town Lot unto him the said Dr J L
Turner his heirs Executors & Administrators & assigns forever in
feesimple & the said Justices of the Inferior Court as aforesaid & there
successors in office the right & title of said Town Lot will forever warrant &
defend against themselves & against all other persons whatsoever sofar as the
office of Justices of the Inferior Court authorizes them in testimony
whereof the said Justises of the Inferior Court as aforesaid hath
hereunto set there hands & affixed there seals the day and year first above
written.

Signed sealed in presents of
Saml White       }   C S Webb IJC (LS)
H F Chandler     }   Ja V Richardson IJC (LS)
F C Stephenson CIC}  H F Chandler JIC (LS)

I proofread the above, and the mispellings and language are as to close
to the interpretation of the document I can give you.

When you search in your documents on Joel & Allen Turner, see if you can
get a listing of slaves brought into their marriages with the Jones'
girls.  I am curious why if Jemima was originally owned by Shadrach Turner,
how
we obtained the surname Jones.  I hate to assume that the father of her
children went by the surname without any proof.  In 1872 she married
Crockett Patterson, and again some of her children changed their names.

Happy Holidays to you and your family.  Also I will be away from office
from Christmas until after the New Year.
Linda Jonnes
jonesl@ccisd3.ccf.org

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