Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:54:46 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Compilation #28 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via
10 August 1996
Hello to Everyone,
A warm welcome is extended to the new subscribers.
This is our 28th compilation. Thanks to everyone for
sharing information on their line.
Chris Gaunt's home page where the archives are stored:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt
Nyla Creed DePauk
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:57:26 -0500
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From: Paula Ward <PWard@the.express-news.net>
Subject: Exonia, Exoney, Excony, Onie, Exena...
Cc: ekirkman@swva.net, hamrick@aa.net
Hello, Nyla,
Just thought I would report back on what I found about the name
"Exonia" and variations thereof.
The name "Exonia" is found in two of my family lines, the TURNERs
and the INGRAMs, both of eighteenth- and nineteenth-century
Franklin County, VA, and I know it's found in other families in
Southwest Virginia counties.
Chuck Hamrick (e-mail: hamrick@aa.net), a frequent contributor to
VA-Roots, has expertise in linguistics and offered the following
remarks:
"The name "Exoney" is likely to be a misnomer for the Latin
"Exonia" ["ehks-sone-ee-ya"] which was used in its adjectival
form, "Exonian", to describe a native or inhabitant of the city
Exeter in Devonshire.
"This name may provide a valuable clue to the origin of a
progenitor.
"This name would not have been encountered by someone reading the
Bible or the Classics in search of a name, but would have been in
common use by people of the city of Exeter and the area
roundabouts."
Thank you, Chuck.
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I also did a search on the internet for Exonia, and quite a
number of homepages for Exeter popped up on the list, including
Exeter University in Devon, England. It was apparent that an
"Exonian" is one who is "from Exeter."
At the top of the list was the homepage for the Exeter Chamber of
Commerce, and when I clicked to open the page, "Exonia European
Transport, Ltd." appeared on my screen. All of a sudden I had
this picture in my mind of our ancestral family boarding a ship
called the "Exonia" -- goosebumps. Wonder if there was a ship by
that name? And did ships bound for the colonies in
the early 1700s embark from...among other ports...Exeter?
What I find intriguing is one TURNER family tradition that says
the family originally came from Cornwall--not very far from
Devon--just over the county line.
We do have another theory, shared by Eunice Kirkman, that
Shadrach TURNER was b. ca 1690 in Scotland, the son of John
TURNER of Clan Arrachor (formerly Lamar). If they were
originally from Scotland, it's still possible that they might
have boarded a ship in Exeter, Devonshire.
Food for thought.
Paula
Paula Kelley Ward PWard@The.Express-News.Net or
PWard@Trinity.Edu
Trinity University, San Antonio TX PH 210/736-7432 FAX
210/736-7433
SW VA: KELLEY, PETERS, INGRAM, TURNER, SMITH, WILLIS, PAYNE
NY, Ireland: MOONEY, MULLEN/MULLIN, DURKIN, WALDRON
Germany: HECKMAN, BOHN, JAECKEL, MANDLER
I must have lived previous lives. I can't imagine
getting this far behind in one life!
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From: "Ann N. Hughes" <anhughes@palmnet.net>
To: "'Nyla Creed DePauk'" <ncreed@erols.com>
Subject: Letter re. Shadrack Turner
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:38:42 -0400
To all: I am posting this letter which I received sometime ago
from a distant cousin who is a genealogist and lives in Basset,
VA. She added a note saying, "This lady died in 1991, I have no
idea who would have her files. Business is closed." She did not
comment to me on the accuracy of the information contained in the
letter. I looked in the only book I have on Scottish Clans
[Robert Bain's Clans & Tartans of Scotland, Great Britain:
William Collins Sons & Co., Ltd. 1968]. A MacFarlane Clan is
listed. A sentence from the second paragraph, "Duncan, 6th chief
of the clan, obtained the lands of Arrochar from the Earl of
Lennox, and in 1395 he acquired many of the adjoining lands by
marriage." This sentence appears to tie in with some of what is
in Mrs. Rainaud's letter. I submit this to see if anyone had
done any research that would confirm or repudiate this
information. Ann Hughes
The Ship's Chandler
Wilmington, Vermont 05363
802-464-5082
Private Coat of Arms Research Library - Over 5000,000 Names 32
Countries
June 29, 1989
[Addressed to a distant cousin of mine}
Following the information sent to me of your branch of the
Scottish Turners listed in Burke's General Armory, and it is this
Coat of Arms that is being sent to you. Although many Turners
here in the US do use the one depicted in the drawing you sent,
it would not be the authentic one to be used by descendants of
Shadrach Turner.
>From information on file obtained from another Shadrach
descendant, your ancestor Shadrach was the son of one John Turner
of the Clan Arrochar of Scotland, descended on the paternal side
from Edward Turner, on the maternal side from McFarlan of
Arrochar. McFarlan was a Chieftain of an ancient Celtic people
who populated the island of Scotland centuries before the arrival
of William the Conqueror. It is believed that the original Coat
of Arms was adapted to indicate both the paternal and the
maternal families. The Catherine Wheels in the paternal pales
indicate much fighting and suffering in the cause of the church,
the guttes de sang in the maternal pales indicate the color red
denoting the chieftain, formed in drops denoting honorable
warriors. You will be able to further interpret this Coat of Arms
by consulting the Special Report included.
Although wars, conquests, and economic conditions have changed
boundaries, modified name spellings and altered languages, a coat
of arms MEANS A NAME. A coat of arms was as easily read in
earlier times as a name on a mailbox is today. Originally, arms
were used to identify a family, group, or clan, and to
distinguish friend from foe; THAT IS WHY NO TWO ARE ALIKE! No
snobbery was connected with them, but some people like to think
so! Colors and designs were chosen to show status, allegiance,
personality, or profession; and to reflect traits or traditions
associated with the original bearer The colorful arms for the
name Turner in Scotland is as distinctive as a fingerprint, and
tells a spell-binding tale.
An early alliance with the Clan Arrochar, throuoh marriage with a
chieftain's daughter, guaranteed that early Turner of peace and
prosperity in this strange and harsh land. This would be
enherited by his children. Those very early days were concerned
with survival, with holding the land for the Normans, and with
defending the holdings against attack by rival clans. These early
Turners were called on, as well, to lead their men in crusades
against the infidels in Europe . Their sons earned their sheilds
and further prospered by being awarded more lands on their return
to Scotland, which in turn must be defended against the original
clans who attempted to wrest it back.
In later years, those early Norman/Celtic families were forced to
renounce their Catholic faith and swear allegience with the
Church of England. Although they fought bitterly to retain their
own religion, they were also involved in so many fights among the
clans that they could not remain a cohesive group against the
Crown and lost the war with England. Considered as the most
intelligent of the "Emerald Isles" the Scot people wisely
surrendered in order to hold their land.
You mention a Robertson in the family tree. It is most
interesting to note that the Turners and Robertsons were
traditionally allies throughout those early times and may have
been allied up until the immigration to North America.
I personally research each name in my library of over 500,000
names from 32 countires. Not being a genealogist, I do not trace
family trees, but do use all information sent! I pride myself in
DOING THINGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY! INDIVIDUALLY AND BY HAND...
therefore, I can stand behind my guarantee: SATISFACTION OR YOUR
MONEY BACK!
/s/ Marcia W. Rainaud
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Hi Paula,
Thank you for writing to me again about "Exonia". My
grandmother's grandmother was Naomi Angelina Exonia (Via) Turner.
One of Naomi's sons was Captain William Turner. He wrote
a family history and stated his mother's people (Via) were Dutch,
and his father's were English.
You've really got my curiosity working on Exonia.
Nyla
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Date: 08 Aug 96 23:41:24 EDT
From: "Philip A. Turner" <72650.74@compuserve.com>
To: Nyla Creed <ncreed@erols.com>
Subject: Compilation #27 - Burnet
Hi!
This is in reply to the message about a Scottish connection
for Turners. I am quoting from 'The book of Ulster surnames' by
Robert Bell. "Turner is an occupational name, from the Old
French tornour, ... a lathe-worker. ... In the Lowlands of
Scotland the name derives from the 'lathe-worker' origin and was
common in Aberdeenshire and Kirkcudbrightshire. According to
George MacDonald Fraser, there were also Turners, one of the
lesser riding clans of the Scottish Borders, based in
Liddesdale, 'the cockpit of the Scottish Middle March'. Many
belonging to the riding clans sought refuge in Ulster when James
VI 'pacified' the Borders and destroyed the social system there
in the decade after 1603.
In the Highlands the name of the trade was borrowed into
Gaelic as tuairnear, giving rise to the name Mac an Tuairneir,
'son of the turner'. The Macinturners, later MacTourners and
Turners, were a sept of Clan Lamont who descended from a fugitive
Lamont who settled on Loch Lomondside and became a turner."
So, not all Scottish Turners are of the Lamont clan. It is
true though, that some of the people in the Scotch-Irish
immigration during the 18th Century did come from Scotland rather
than Northern Ireland. It would be hard to sort them out unless
you knew which ship they came on, and where the ship was from.
Phil Turner
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 15:51:26 -0400
From: ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu (Ann Avery Hunter)
To: ncreed@erols.com
Subject: SAMUEL TURNER - CULPEPER CO. (fwd)
Reply-To: ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu
> ========== Begin forwarded message ==========
> From: turners@valu-line.com (Steve Turner)
> To: va-roots@leo.vsla.edu (Multiple recipients of list)
> Subject: SAMUEL TURNER - CULPEPER CO.
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug
>
> Looking for information on Samuel Turner born in Culpeper Co.
VA in 1758.
> He later moved to Clark Co. KY and then to Ralls Co. MO.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Turner (turners@valu-line.com)
>
>
>
>
--
Ann Avery Hunter
Richmond, Virginia
ahunter@freenet.vcu.edu
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 17:40:38 -0400
To: ncreed@erols.com
From: dkw@fastlane.net (David Williams)
I am searching for information on ancestors and descendants on
the following
James Turner family of North Carolina:
HUSBAND: James TURNER
BORN: 1773 PLACE: North Carolina
DIED: Oct 1812 PLACE: Anson Co, NC
MARR: 1793 PLACE:
FATHER: unknown
MOTHER: unknown
NOTES:
1773 - BORN:
1789 - DELEGATE: Montgomery Co., NC.
1790 - U.S.CENSUS: Montgomery Co., NC.
1793 - MARRIED:
1800 - U.S.CENSUS: Montgomery Co., NC.
1810 - U.S.CENSUS: Anson Co., NC.
20 JUL 1812 - WILL: wife Lucy; sons, Henry Marshall Turner,
William James Turner, James S. Turner; daughters
Wincy, Martha Ann, Sally L., Elizabeth N.; Anson
Co., NC, Bk.2, Pg.170; DPL R929.37567 C296a.
OCT 1812 - PROBATE: will, Anson Co., NC.
WIFE: Lucy MARSHALL
BORN: 10 Feb 1777 PLACE: Virginia
DIED: 27 Dec 1845 PLACE: Anson Co, North Carolina
FATHER: James MARSHALL, son of John Marshall d. Brunswick Co., VA
MOTHER: Ann HARRISON, dau of William Harrison d. Brunswick Co., VA
NOTES:
6 FEB 1776 - BORN: Ruth Parker Shelton DAR#420469
10 FEB 1776 - BORN: Agnes Williams Sparks DAR#603646
10 FEB 1777 - BORN: Virginia;
1979 Carolinas (Union Co.) CGS XVI, 2, Fall,
p.39, Mrs.R.E.Heath.
1793 - MARRIED#1: James Turner.
AFT 1812 - MARRIED#2: R.B. Smith.
- MARRIED#3: Thomas Waddill.
27 DEC 1845 - DIED: Anson Co., NC.
CHILDREN:
1. NAME: Winifred Harrison TURNER
BORN: 29 Aug 1797 PLACE: Brunswick Co, Virginia
DIED: 28 Jan 1858 PLACE: Ansonville, Anson Co, NC
BUR.: PLACE: Concord Cemetery, Anson Co, NC
SPOUSE: John Spillman KENDALL Dr., son of William Kendall and
Margaret Spellman
MARR: 30 Mar 1815 PLACE:
NOTES:
29 AUG 1797 - BORN: Virginia; tombstone and census.
1813 - entered Salem Female Academy, Anson Co., NC;
parent listed Lucy Turner (mother); Dallas
Library R975.6753 M491h.
30 MAR 1815 - MARRIAGE: John Spillman Kendall; from Agnes
Sparks #12.
23 SEP 1850 - U.S.CENSUS: Anson Co., NC; Cedar Hill, pg205,
ln12; age 52, born NC.
28 JAN 1858 - DIED: tombstone, Concord Cemetery, Anson Co., NC.
2. NAME: Henry Marshall TURNER Dr.
BORN: 1800 PLACE: Montgomery Co, NC
DIED: 1871 PLACE:
BUR.: PLACE: family cemetery, North Carolina
SPOUSE: Caroline MCNEILL
MARR: PLACE:
NOTES:
1800 - BORN: Montgomery (later became Stanly) Co., NC;
Dallas Library R975.6753 M491h.
1871 - DIED: tombstone, family cemetery near the
Albemarle-Ansonville stretch of highway 52;
located by Paul Green and Malcolm Fowler.
3. NAME: William James TURNER
4. NAME: James S. TURNER
5. NAME: Martha Ann TURNER
6. NAME: Sally L. TURNER
7. NAME: Elizabeth N. TURNER
David Kendall Williams AIA
9966 Dresden
Dallas, TX 75220
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