Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:14:42 EST
From: NCreed1 <NCreed1@aol.com>
To: 102125.3126@COMPUSERVE.COM, NCreed1@aol.com
Subject: Comp #340 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc Mailing List
15 Jan 1998
Hello to Everyone:
More eMails.
Nyla
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Subj: Re: Comp #339 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
Date: 98-01-15 02:25:31 EST
From: VFTurner2
To: NCreed1
Question: Does the former U.S. Senator Robert Packwood, of Oregon, descend
from our Packwoods? I was just wondering.
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Folks: Who wants to answer this one? Nyla
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Subj: More on Halifax Co., VA Turners
Date: 98-01-15 12:37:54 EST
From: ablancett@scescape.net (Allen or Gail Blancett)
To: NCreed1@Aol.com
Thanks to June Bork who posted all those Halifax Co, VA records. I
have a few other things that might compliment those. These will be
mostly Halifax Co., VA to SC and some GA connections.
*****
>From Halifax Co., VA 1785 Head of Families (substitutes for the 1790
Heads of Household for VA). Last name, first name, white souls,
dwellings, other buildings:
List of M. Stanfield
Turner, Ann, 4,2,2
Smith, William, 8,1,0
Miller, Elizabeth, 4,1,3 (names adjacent)
Turner, James, 9,1,3
Turner, William, 12,0,1
Powell, Charles, 10,0,3 (names adjacent and a few away from above 3)
Compton, John, 4,1,5
Turner, Thomas, 2,0,2
Wiley, George, 5,0,3
Wiley, Eleanor, 3,1,4
Guthrey, Thomas, 7,0,3
Turner, Moses, 6,0,3 (names adjacent and a 2 names away from above
group)
Stanfield, Robert, 10,1,6
Oliver, Richard, 8,0,2
Stanfield, Marmaduke, 11,1,8
Different lists (names scattered, not adjacent)
Irby, William, 1,1,1
Waide, Hampton, 5,2,2
Turner, Champness, 5,1,0
Reynolds, John, 4,1,1
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Some Migrations from Virginia to South Carolina (all references from
Halifax Co., VA deed Books):
Deed Book 13, p. 356
24 August 1784 John Chapman of 96 District SC to Robert Stanfield of
Halifax Co., VA, for 100 lbs, sold 300 acres in Halifax Co., VA lying
on
waters of Johns Run bounded by lines of said Robt. Stanfield, Richard
Oliver, Charles Powell, Joseph Miller, Thomas Guttery and John Turner
deceased...Wit: John Carson [sic, Cason?], Lewis Turner, Robert
Stanfield, John
Pulliam. Signed John Chapman. Recorded 19 Jan. 1786 (or 1789).
Deed Book 14, p. 228
30 December 1786 John Peterson of SC county of Lawrens [sic, should
be Laurens] to John Chapman of State of Co., aforesaid, for 50 pounds VA
money, sold 82 acres of land in county of Halifax and State of
Virginia on S side Dan River on a branch called Lawson Creek, adj. John
Compton
and the lands of widow Wiley and lands of Robert Stanfield...Wit:
Richard Watts, John Watts, Thomas (x) Chapman, John Turner. Signed
John Peterson. Rec. 25 Feb. 1788.
**********
Laurens Co., SC Estate Book A-1, p. 183-184
Estate of Richard Turner, Account of sale of Richard Turner decd.
estate, 10 November 1797 by Richard Griffin and Robert Griffin
Administrators. Purchasers: Robert Turner, Champ Turner, John
Davenport, Richd. Griffin, Elizabeth Turner, James Turner, Lucy
Turner, Harry Smith, William Smith, Richard Hatter, James Creswel, William
Ball, John Day, Robt. Griffin, James A. Williams, Fielding Turner, James
Gate, Drewry Sims, Richd. Griffin, James R. Mayson, Peter Ball, Thos.
Turner, John Jones, Benj. Owen, David Gains, John Roberson, John Watt.
**********
1790 Laurens Co., 96 District, SC Census
Turner, Richard, 3, 2, 3, 1 slave ) These two names adjacent
Butler, John, 1,3,1
Turner, Asa, 2,1,2
Turner, Mary, 1 female, 6 slaves
Turner, Champney, 1,2,6 [This name alternately transcribed Champness]
Turner, William, 2,2,7
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1800 Census SC
Thomas Turner, Laurens District, SC, p. 32
Champness Turner, Laurens District, SC p. 33
James Turner, Laurens District, SC p. 33
Joseph Turner, Laurens District, SC p. 35
July Turner, Laurens District, SC p. 43
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1810 Census SC
Champness Turner, Abbeville Distr, SC p. 37
David Turner, Laurens District, SC, p. 50
James Turner, Laurens District, SC p. 36
Polly Turner, Laurens District, SC p. 37
Sally Turner, Laurens District, SC p. 37
Sarah Turner, Laurens District, SC p. 37
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Revolutionary pension record: Thomas Turner S30111 VA Service
Thomas Turner who was residing in Laurens District, SC when he first
applied for a pension on 15 June 1818. He said he had enlisted on 1
May 1777 as a private in the VA Continental line (14th Regt.) and served under
Capt. Thos. Thweat, Nath'l Terry, Col. Buford, Col. Charles Lewis, and Col.
Wm. Davis. He had been at the Battles of Stoney Point, Monmouth, and several
skirmishes. He was captured at Charleston, SC on 12 May 1780 and was
released on parole 19 May 1780. The records showed he was a resident
of Halifax Co., VA when he enlisted; he was age 64 in 1818. His
deposition was taken by Waddy Thompson in Laurens District, SC where
he was living in 1818, 1820, and 1821. He was awarded a pension.
Lost discharge papers. One of those testifying on his behalf was
William Irby. In 1821 he refers to his wife aged 47 years old. No further
data on
family.
"South Carolinians in the Revolution" by Sara Sullivan Ervin
(Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1965). According to that
book, this same Thomas Turner died on 19 September 1823.
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1820 Census SC, Laurens District, SC
Thomas Turner, 1 Male 45 +, 1 Female 26-45
Asa Turner, 1 Male 45+, 1 Female 45+
David Turner, 1 Male 26-45, 3 Males Under 10; 1 F U 10, 2 F 16-26
Robert Turner, 2 Males U 10, 1 Male 26-45; 2 F U 10, 1 F 26-45
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Newberry County, SC: Historical and Genealogical Annals. George
Leland Summer, Sr. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1980 (reprint
of originally copyrighted book 1950).
Thomas Turner, of Laurens District, made will January 13, 1807, which
was proved in Court October 20, 1823. His widow, Abby, survived, with
following other legatees: Elizabeth Reynolds as Administratix of
estate, Chambres [sic] Turner, of Green County, AL; a nephew Tandy
Griffin, who was to receive all property after death of widow Abby.
This appears to be the will of the Rev. Soldier Thomas.
**********
Queries re Halifax Co., VA of Allison Stanhope (smaps@midrivers.com):
Turner, Dillard --I am researching the Turner family of Halifax
County. Starting with John Turner (b1755) and Elizabeth Dillard. They had
the
following children: William, George, William Dillard, Frances,
Elizabeth, Margaret "Peggy," Samuel, John, Elisha, Howard William.
Adams, Boyd--I am researching the Adams family out of Halifax Co.
Starting with John Adams to his son John Adams (b1730) to Richard
Adams (b1762) and Hannah Boyd. Allison Stanhope.
Irby --Seek additional information on Anthony Irby d. ca 1796 Halifax
Co. Children: (among them) Sarah Irby m. James Turner, moved to
Maury Co., TN. Sue Wright.
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Marriage of James Turner to Sarah Irby on 27 June 1780 in Halifax Co.,
VA.
Researchers of the James Turner/Kerenhappuch Norman Turner family say
it was James Turner Jr. who was married to Sarah Irby as his second
wife and that he had been married first to a Wyatt. They list a son
of James Turner Jr. and Sarah Irby as Anthony I. (Irby) Turner. They
say James Turner Jr. moved to NC and then to Maury Co., TN about 1805
and died there in 1809. Not confirmed by me. Was there another James
Turner who was married to the Wyatt?
*****
Can anyone give me the full transcriptions for the following will
records? I was given some abstracts but there are clearly some errors
in the ones I was given so need confirmation, corrections and
additions.
James Turner, Will dated 8 July 1785 in Halifax Co., VA named
legatees: sons Armstreet (Armistead); Bozell (Boswell), Abner,
Martin, Ransom; sons Fanny/Frances, Susannah, Elizabeth. Executors
brother William, friend Thomas Manfield, friend Moses Turner.
Witnesses: Thomas Turner, William Hold [Holt?], Barnett Turner, James
Turner.
[Descendants of this family say this is the James Turner who married
Mary McMahaney on 17 Feb 1763. Abner, Boswell and Martin removed to
GA. Martin married Sally Stanfield on 24 Dec 1798; Ransom may be the
one who married Sally Link on 26 Oct 1801 in Halifax Co., VA]
William Turner, Will dated 5 October 1795 in Halifax Co., VA named
legatees wife Sarah, sons John, Barnett, James, Joseph, William,
Moses; son-in-law John Bartlett; daughters Caty, Mildred, Nancy,
Susannah, Rachel, deceased daughter Lucy Bartlett. Executors son
Moses and son-in-law James Bartlett.
[Descendants of Abner and Boswell Turner say this William Turner was
the brother of James (will dated 8 Jul 1785, and thus uncle of Abner
and Boswell]
Tandy Turner, Will dated 8 Mar 1793 in Halifax Co., VA. Legatee,
brother Thomas Turner. [Is this the Thomas Turner who was a Rev.
Soldier who moved to Laurens Co., SC where he applied for a pension in
1818. His will named among others a nephew Tandy Griffin; Champness
Turner; Elizabeth Reynolds.]
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Subj: Cumberland County Turners
Date: 98-01-15 12:57:07 EST
From: BKOOP1
To: jdawson@bellsouth.net
CC: NCreed1
Joe:
I am related to Shadrack Turner and Ann; their son Jeremiah Turner and Rachel
Ross who moved to Cumberland Co Kentucky and settled on Mud Camp. Their son
George Pollard Turner and Elizabeth (Betty) Phifer m 11 July 1814 Henry Co
marraige bond ( also moved to Mud Camp in Cumberland Co ), Elizabeth was the
daughter of Joseph Phifer Sr and Judith Meredith. Their son Lewis Turner b
1816 in Va d Jan 1860 Cumberland Co Kentucky m Lucy Ann Rowland Daughter of
John Rowland. Their daughter Mary Susan b 1842 d 1907 m 1859 Lewis Compton
b1841 d 1898 both buried in Leslie Cemetary Cumberland Co Ky. Their son (my
Grandfather ) Melvin Otha Compton b 26 Sept 1875 d 28 may 1963 m 5July 1905
Lee Ann Thrasher b 27 Dec 1884 d 23 april 1974 both buried in Leslie Cemetary
Cumberland Co Ky.
I was born in Cumberland Co and still have many relatives living there, when
my Dad comes down to visit and we go to the Cumberland page on the net he
knows most of the names that come up.
Let me know if there is a connection to your Cumberland Co line.
Jeanne
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Subj: Frustrating Foley Family!
Date: 98-01-15 19:56:54 EST
From: HarrisSEM
To: NCreed1
Thanks to everyone who has been helping out with the Foley family! I am late
in responding because I have had to work a lot lately. I can't stand it when
work gets in the way of the rest of my life!
It looks like there does need more work to be done on the Foleys and the
Sneeds.
The reason that I associated the Foleys with the Sneeds is because on Martha
J. Lackey's death certificate, it says that Martha J. Lackey's parents were "
Sam Snead" and that her mother's maiden name was "----Foley". The
information was given by Martha's son, William E. Lackey.
I have Martha's marriage record that says that her parents were " Sam'l and P.
Sneed"
Here are the census records that I have from a long time ago:
1850 CENSUS -Patrick Co., Va
visit 93
Samuel Sneed, Jr- 23
Mary "" -25
Judith '' -3
Carroll '' -2
Martha '' - 6/12 <---- my Martha
visit 101
Samuel Sneed, Sr - 57
Elizabeth '' - 45 ( 2nd wife, Elizabeth Moran -married in 1849 )
Francis '' - 15
visit 102
James Foley , Sr - 54 ( Eunice Kirkman provided good further info on him in
comp 337)
Judith "" - 52
A female name that I can't read " - 18
Elizabeth '' - 10
( there may be more, but this is all I copied)
1860 CENSUS
visit 408
Samuel Sneed - 36
Mary "" - 27 ( ?)
Judith '' - 13
Carol '' -12
Martha J. '' - 9
Samuel S. '' -7
1870 CENSUS
visit 25
Lackey, William c. -38
'' Martha J. - 20
'' William E.- 1
'' Samuel J. - 4/12
visit 28
Sneed, Samuel- 44
'' Mary -28 (?)
'' Carroll -23
'' Samuel- 18
1880 CENSUS
visit 134
Sneed, Samuel 50, 52, or 53 ( kind of blurry!)
'' Mary - 49
'' female ( Leticia?) - 14
'' female - 12 ( can't read these last two names because a piece of tape was
put on the document when it was microfilmed )
Martin, William J.- 11
So why would William E. Lackey say that his mother's maiden name was Foley?
Was the mysterious Mary with the magical ages listed as Samuel's wife all
those years actually Mary Wright as mentioned by Eddie Vaden? Was her
nickname Polly (Poley)? Poley is listed as being age 54 when she died in
1894. That would have made Polly born around 1840. Mary's ages ( I'll go
with the 1850 and 1880 censuses because they make more sense ) would put her
being born around 1825-1831. So that doesn't seem to agree either! Also
according to the Patrick Co., marriage records sent to me by Nettie and Eddie,
it says "Samuel Sneed, s/o Samuel Sneed Sr. & Jane Sneed, and Nancy Wright,
d/o John N. & Elizabeth Wright, m 4 Aug 1853". But my Samuel Sneed Jr was the
son of Samuel Sneed Sr and his first wife, Esther Turner. So, there must have
been at least 2 Samuel Sneeds at about the same time.
Very confusing. If any one has any clarification on any of this, I would
really appreciate any help. Hope I haven't confused anyone any further
either! Thanks again for everyone's help!
Sherry
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