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Subject: Compilation #35 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
14 September 1996
Hello Everyone,
Hope you find something of interest below. Keep in touch.
Nyla Creed DePauk
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From: JaniceBT@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:01:16 -0400
To: ncreed@erols.com
Subject: meshack
Nyla, Please list the following on the newsletter
I have been reading the archives and have not finished yet but am sending the
first 3 generation descendency chart on the Meshcak S. Turner who came to
Wilkes co GA. Corrections are requested and if there is interest I will be
glad to upload additional and or correspond with anyone interested. My
husband's line goes Meshack to John H to William Henry (CSA) to Gideon
Anderson (CSA) to William Thomas to Thomas Albert Sr to Thomas A. JR. Most
of this is wilkes/Lincoln/Elbert co Ga but my info covers much more.
Descendants of Meshack S. Turner
1 Meshack S. Turner Abt 1725 - 1794
.. +unknown
..... 2 Shadrack Turner II 1752 - 1820
......... +Jane unk Abt 1752 -
..... *2nd Wife of Shadrack Turner II:
......... +Margaret Hill 1750 - Bef 1776 m: Abt 1775 in Halifax, Va
............. 3 Mary Elizabeth (Polly)Turner 1776 - 1860
................. +William Golden 1776 - 1852 m: May 12, 1797 in
Lincoln co Ga
............. 3 Richard Turner 1776 -
................. +Mary Henderson Abt 1776 -
............. 3 Lewis Turner 1780 - 1847
............. 3 Nancy Turner 1782 - 1856
................. +Elisha Gilliam Crawford 1779 - 1861 m: Oct 2,
1808 in Lincoln Co GA
............. 3 Shadrack Turner III 1787 - 1842
................. +Unity Gilliam - Abt 1822 m: April 1808 in
Lincoln Co, Ga
............. *2nd Wife of Shadrack Turner III:
................. +Sally Lockhart 1792 - 1834 m: Aft 1822 in
Linc Co
............. *3rd Wife of Shadrack Turner III:
................. +Mary Taylor m: July 17, 1836 in Richmond Co, Ga
............. 3 William K. Turner 1789 - Bef 1848
................. +Lucy Butler 1795 - m: February 14, 1818 in
Wilkes County GA
............. 3 [2] Sarah Frances "Sally" Turner Bef 1790 -
................. +[1] James Francis Turner Aft 1787 -m: Sept 06,
1806 in Lin Co. Ga
............. 3 Meshack Turner 1790 -
................. +Fanny Tatum 1790 - m: September 28, 1809 in
Lincoln Co GA
............. 3 Abednego Turner 1792 -
................. +Patsy Tatum Bef 1795 - m: January 14, 1819
in Lincoln Co
............. 3 James B. Turner 1796 -
................. +Nancy W. Downing 1799 - m: November 18,
1818 in Lincoln Co
............. 3 Elizabeth Turner 1798 -
................. +Samuel Wideman 1801 - m: September 30, 1818
in Lincoln Co
............. 3 Susan Turner 1800 - Bef 1850
................. +Pharis Martin 1803 - Bef 1850 m: January 13, 1820
in Lin Co Ga
..... 2 Elizabeth Turner Abt 1754 - 1807
......... +unk Lacy Abt 1754 -
..... *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Turner:
......... +Elisha Pruitt Abt 1754 - Bef 1893 m: Bef 1794
..... 2 Abednego (A. B.) Turner 1754 - 1802
......... +unk Collier Abt 1754 - m: Abt 1774 in VA
..... *2nd Wife of Abednego (A. B.) Turner:
......... +Phoebe Waller m: 1801 in Abbeville SC
*2nd Wife of Meshack S. Turner:
.. +Rebekah Roberson Bef 1740 - 1797 m: February 06, 1760 in Halifax
, Va
..... 2 John H. Turner Abt 1762 - 1825
......... +Patsy Coleman - Aft 1825 m: Bef 1800
............. 3 Sarah Turner Bef 1800 -
................. +Francis B. Billingslea 1790 - 1852 m: Dec 1811
in Wilkes County GA
............. 3 Stephen Turner Abt 1800 -
............. 3 James S. Turner Abt 1800 -
............. 3 D. Coleman Turner Abt 1800 -
................. +unk
............. 3 unk turner Abt 1800 -
................. +unk Coleman
............. 3 John H. Turner, Jr 1811 -
................. +Nancy A. H. Farrow 1813 - m: July 17, 1839 in
Lincoln Co Ga
............. 3 Elizabeth M. Turner Abt 1817 -
............. 3 Martha Turner Abt 1820 -
............. 3 William Henry Turner 1820 - 1903
................. +Lucy Bunch 1825 - 1858 m: January 28, 1847
in Wilkes County GA
............. *2nd Wife of William Henry Turner:
................. +Elizabeth (Betty) Wolf 1834 - 1924 m: January
08, 1861
..... 2 Rebeccah Turner 1766 - 1824
......... +David Ogletree Abt 1760 - 1822 m: 1786 in GA
............. 3 Rebecca Ogletree 1783 -
................. +Benjamin Portwood, Jr 1783 - m: June 15, 1825
in Wilkes Co
............. 3 Turner Ogletree 1798 - 1883
................. +Mary (Polly) Sanders 1797 - 1895 m: August
28, 1815
............. 3 David Ogletree Abt 1799 -
................. +Susan Ann Carver Abt 1799 -
............. 3 William Ogletree Abt 1801 -
............. 3 Nancy Ogletree Abt 1803 -
............. 3 Elizabeth Ogletree Abt 1805 -
............. 3 America Ogletree Abt 1807 -
............. 3 Sara Ogletree Abt 1812 -
............. 3 John Ogletree Abt 1814 -
................. +Lively E. Pittman Abt 1814 -
..... 2 Meshack S. Turner, Jr Abt 1768 - 1810
......... +Sally Farmer m: September 02, 1787 in Pittsylvania, Va
............. 3 Nancy Turner
................. +John Lawson Bef 1800 - m: Dec 31, 1818 in
Wilkes Co Ga
............. 3 Jinnie Turner
................. +Pleasant Lawson, Jr m: Bef 1808
............. 3 Rachael Turner
................. +Bird Pruitt, Jr m: Bef 1806
............. 3 [1] James Francis Turner Aft 1787 -
................. +[2] Sarah Frances "Sally" Turner Bef 1790 - m:
Sept 06, 1806 in Lin co.
............. 3 Meshack Turner 1790 - 1880
................. +Mary Ann Robertson - 1810 m: June 15, 1809 in
Wilkes Co GA
............. *2nd Wife of Meshack Turner:
................. +Sarah Roby Tucker 1801 - 1876 m: July 21, 1818
in Ga
..... 2 James Turner Bef 1772 -
......... +Sarah Coleman Abt 1776 - m: Bef 1793 in Wilkes County GA
............. 3 Sarah W. Turner 1794 - 1859
............. 3 James Turner 1798 -
............. 3 John Turner 1800 -
............. 3 Daniel Calhoun Turner 1802 -
............. 3 Meshack Turner 1804 -
............. 3 Martha Coleman Turner 1812 -
............. 3 Manuel Turner Abt 1814 -
..... 2 Sarah "Sally" Turner 1776 -
......... +William Billingslea Bef 1784 -
..... 2 Sussanah Turner 1778 -
......... +Philip Wilhite - Bef 1824
............. 3 Philip Wilhite
............. 3 Meshack T. Willhite Abt 1800 -
............. 3 Geriah G. Willhite Abt 1803 -
................. +Robert C. Oglesby m: December 25, 1823 in
Elbert Co
..... *2nd Husband of Sussanah Turner:
......... +unk Oglesby m: Abt 1824
..... 2 Polly Turner Abt 1780 -
......... +Owen Holloway m: November 25, 1799 in Wilkes Co GA
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Date: 12 Sep 96 21:44:48 EDT
From: Jonathan Parker <102255.1415@CompuServe.COM>
To: Nyla Creed <ncreed@erols.com>
Subject: Turners to California
Nyla,
As I mentioned to you before, my Turner ancestors came from Tennessee to
California in the 1850s, and I have not had much success in tracing them
before that time. However, I do have two items I would like to share
with you. At the end is a descendant chart based on the information I
have. I'll let you judge if this is suitable material to pass along to
your mailing list.
First is my GG GF Thomas Marion Turner's obituary, from the San Diego
Union, 5 Sept 1894. The informant was probably his wife Elizabeth
(Nicholson) Turner.
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THOMAS M. TURNER DEAD
Passing of One of San Diego's Old Residents
Thomas M. Turner died at his residence, 1139 Front Street, in this city,
yesterday, aged 65 years. His illness was of three weeks duration,
though he had been an invalid from rheumatism for four years, but
posessing so much fortitude and energy that he insisted on being out
until nine monthes ago, when a prolonged attack of grip so reduced his
strength that he had been able to ride out only for a short time each
day.
Mr. Turner was a native of Bedford County, Tennessee, a son of Col. John
Turner, who was prominent in Congress for several terms as senator from
Alabama. Mr. Turner crossed the plains in 1852, arriving in Marysville
in September of that year, and later moving to San Francisco, where he
engaged in the stock business. His stockyard at Tenth and Howard was
known all over the state. In 1869 he moved a part of his stock to San
Diego, landing by contract at the steamship warf, his freight being a
part of the cargo of the first steamer that landed there.
In 1875 Mr Turner served as city marshal, and latterly was engaged in
the real estate business. He leaves a wife, four daughters, and one son.
One of the daughters is the wife of the Hon. Edwin Parker, formerly
superior judge.
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This second item is a brief family history, written by T.M. Turner's
daughter Lillie Turner Raven (b.1869) some time after 1945.
The original of this document is an unsigned and undated typescript, on
both sides of a single sheet of legal-size paper. There are several
typing errors in the original, which are indicated as such in this
transcription. Every effort has been made to adhere to the form of the
original typescript. The person for whom this recollection was written
is not known.
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I do not wish my age put in the paper when I pass. Just the date of
passing.
I was born in San Francisco but raised in San Diego, later moving to Los
Angeles. I was married in 1904 to Dr. Fred J. Raven of Wisconsin. Our
daughter Elizabeth Arvilla was named after my bother [sic] and Fred's
mother.
My fater [sic] was Thomas Marion Turner and my mother was Elizabeth
Micholson [sic] Turner. My father was born in Alabama but moved to
Kentucky--later coming across the plains in a "covered wagon" during the
California gold rush of 1849-50 with his parents, brothers and sister
and arrived in San Francisco in 1850.
His father was Col. John Turner who served with the confederate army
during the war between the North and the South. The Mother's name was
Sarah. She was a good old doutherner [sic]. There were five boys and one
girl in the family, namely:
William who was killed by the Indians while crossing the plains when the
party was attacked.
Robert Turner (Uncle Bob) who had a large ranch but their home was in
Oakland. He was a representative at Sacramento at one time. His wife's
name was Elizabeth, but was called Aunt Lizzie by the nieces and
nephews. She was from the south too. They had three daughters and two
sons: Florence Estell, Julia Castleton and Minnie Ainsworth, Ex and
Charlie. Charlie died when quite young. Do not think Ex ever married.
Benjamin (Uncle BJ) who lived in Hanford and owned the Artesia Hotel
which was quite noted in those days for it had an Artesian Well in the
center of the lobby. He was married twice. The first wife was named
Mollie but they were divorced after a few years. Had one son named
Benjamin but nicknamed Hatch. He then married Ellen. She survived him
for many years and operated the hotel.
Thomas Marion see later on.
Alfred was the youngest son. He had a ranch but also lived in Oakland.
His wife's name was Fannie. They had three daughters and a son. Emma
Blake, Olive Harvey, Blanch Lobbett and the son Clarence. Olive lives in
Catalina and is a C.S. Practitioner and Church Director. Blanche lives
in Berkeley and as you know Emma has passed. Emma lived in Alaska,
(Nome) for many years teaching school where she met Mr. Blake. She could
not stand the cold and wanted to come to the U.S., but he did not want
to leave his important work there as an engineer so they were divorced.
Blanche and Frank's son is named Francis. He was in the army all during
the second war. He is married and lives in S.L. Manager of one of the
departments in one of the big dry Goods stores there.
The daughter's name was Nancy Turner and she married Matt Howwell [sic]
of Nevada. They lived in Oakland for many years later going to San
Francisco. They had four daughters and a son: Alice, Hattie, Elizabeth,
Edna, and Eugene. Alice married Dr. Morse, a successful physician of San
Francisco. They had two sons and a daughter. Both sons died during the
last war. The youngest enroute to the front and Douglas at his ranch at
Hemet. He had a belief of Tuberculosis [sic]. Alice married Joseph B.
Banning and lives in Hancock Park, Los Angeles. They have two daughters,
Nancy and Katherine. Elizabeth never married. She was an Art teacher in
the San Francisco high school for many years. Edna married a M. Newman.
They had two children, a son Douglas and a daughter Mary. Douglas is an
artist and designs Christmas cards. He lives in the East. Edna divorced
Mr. Newman and she went to Italy during the World War as a correspondent
for the government. She there met and married an Italian banker. I have
forgotten his name. They had a son. Edna passed on eight or nine years
ago. She was a C.S. too. Her daughter still lives there and also married
an Italian. Eugene Howell lived in Nevada and was in the legislature
there. He was married and had several children, but I do not know about
them. Hattie (or Harriet) married Judge Cabinas of San Francisco. Avery
[sic] popular judge. Always elected at the primaries. He was on the
Bench for many years. One son George is now an attourne [sic] in San
Francisco, he was a Lt. Col. during the last war.
My father med [sic] my mother Elizabeth Nicholson in San Francisco after
she had come around the Horn from Boston, Mass, to the Hot Springs in
Alcapulca [sic] for treatment of rheumatism. But after a short stay
there was entirely relieved and proceded to SF They lived in many parts
of Calif, Sacramento Valley, Chico, Marysville, Napa, Santa Rosa finally
returning to San Francisco, where my father engaged in the business of
fine horses. (blooded horses.) He owned what is now the Civic Center of
SF on Market St. A whole block where he had his stable. He sold it for
ten thousand dollars (now worth ten million) and moved to San Diego, but
only took three or four horses. We girls used to claim the horses, mine
was Charlie, Ida's was Prince, I do not remember the others.
My father was Chief of Police in San Diego for many years. There was no
mayor at the time so he did double duty. He afterwards engaged in the
Real Estate business, but had to retire on acct. of his health. Nellie
was the oldest daughter and she was married at an early age to Rolla
Palmer who was manager of the Hamilton Grocery Store in Oceanside. Ida
was the next but she did not marry, preferring to go it single. She was
an excellent Apt. manager and was a former secretary for Dr. Manard for
many years. Josephine married Edwin Parker who was a Superior Judge for
many years. Also served as Assemblyman in Sacramento. One son, Edwin
Marion Parker became an attorney and was attorney for Coronado for some
time. Mr. Parker planted the trees that are in the park opposite the
Grant Hotel. They are very large now and the park has become one of the
landmarks of San Diego.
You know about me so there is no more to tell. Charlie married Mary
Brooke, then Nellie McAnurey, and you know the rest. Two nice girls,
Josephine and Virginia was [sic] born to the first union.
My mothers father was John Nicholson and her Mother's name was Catherine
and they came to San Francisco from Boston Mass about the time of the
Gold Rush, 1849-50. They had three daughters and a son: Mary Rose and
Elizabeth but I do not remember the son's name. Mary married James Burns
and had several children, but I never knew their names. I do not
remember who Rose married but I know that she was a crank of a
houskeeper, even made her husband take off his shoes before he came in
the main part of the house. His slippers were by the kitchen door.
Elizabeth married Tom Turner.
After my Grandfather passed (He was an Episcopalian) my grandma joined
the "Dominical Sisters" a Catholic Organization. After a few years she
became totally bling [sic] and Mama had her brought to our home in San
Diego where she passed on after several years. She learned to go all
over the house, upstairs and down all by herself, which was remarkable.
That is about all I know except my mother never accepted the Catholic
faith, but went with her father to the Episcopal church. Ia [sic] was a
member of the Episcopal church in Hollywood. Uncle Fred, Ida Blanche and
I were confirmed the same day and Elizabeth was baptized the next day
and Blanche was God mother.
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1. John Turner & Sarah
2. William Turner
2. Robert Turner & Elizabeth
3. Florence Turner & Estell
3. Julia Turner & Castleton
3. Minnie Turner & Ainsworth
3. Ex Turner
3. Charlie Turner
2. Benjamin Turner & Mollie
3. Benjamin (Hatch) Turner
2. Benjamin Turner & Ellen
2. Thomas Marion Turner (1829-1894) & Elizabeth Nicholson (1837-1908)
3. Nellie A. Turner (1860-1899) & Rolla Palmer (1858-1890)
3. Ida Gertrude Turner (1862-)
3. Mary Josephine Turner (1865-1905) & Edwin Parker (1832-1900)
4. Edwin Marion Parker Sr. (1888-1960) &
Ethel Valencia Barry (1888-1968)
5. Edwin Marion Parker Jr. (1917-) &
Edith Nickelsburg (1924-)
6. Edwin Marion Parker III (1946-) &
Antoinette "Dee" Girot (1944-)
6. Janet Ethel Parker (1949-) & Arnold Shea
7. Everet Marvin Shea (1979-)
6. Jaqueline Elizabeth Parker (1954-) & David Sekulski
7. Joshua David Sekulski (1973-) & Dawn
8. Joshua Parker Sekulski (1995-)
6. Jaqueline Elizabeth Parker (1954-) & William Nagel
7. Nickolas William (Nagel) Lopez (1979-)
6. Jaqueline Elizabeth Parker (1954-) &
Roberto Lopez (1955-)
7. Marcela Chavez Ramirez Lopez (1977-)
7. Nickolas William (Nagel) Lopez (1979-)
7. Robert Jose Lopez Jr. (1981-)
7. Reyes Pascual Lopez (1983-)
7. Maria Isabel Chavez Lopez (1984-)
7. Emelio Edwardo Lopez (1987-)
6. Jonathan Melvil Parker (1956-) &
Mary Jean Earnest (1951-)
7. Genevieve Louise Parker (1989-)
7. Claire Ruth Parker (1992-)
5. Wendell Barry Parker (1924-) & Anna
6. Wendell Barry Parker Jr. & Renee
7. Bobby Jo Parker
6. Friedrich Marion Parker
5. Wendell Barry Parker (1924-) & Florence Flores
3. Lillie T. Turner (1869-) & Fred J. Raven M. D.
4. Elizabeth Arvilla Raven
3. Charles A. Turner (1874-) & Mary E. Brooke (1877-1898)
4. Josephine Turner & James S. Whyte
4. Virginia Turner
3. Charles A. Turner (1874-) & Nellie McAnurey
2. Alfred Turner & Fannie
3. Emma Turner & Blake
3. Olive Turner & Harvey
3. Blanche Turner & Frank Lobbett
4. Francis Lobbett
3. Clarence Turner
2. Nancy Turner & Matt Howell
3. Alice Howell & Morse M.D.
4. ?
4. Douglas
4. Alice & Joseph B. Banning
5. Nancy Banning
5. Katherine Banning
3. Harriet (Hattie) Howell & Cabinas
3. Elizabeth Howell
3. Edna Howell & M. Newman
3. Eugene Howell
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Jonathan Parker
1732 1/2 Upas Street
San Diego, California 92103
email: 102255.1415@compuserve.com
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From: N4JED@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 10:46:32 -0400
To: ncreed@erols.com
Subject: Thanks
Nyla and the List,
My thanks to everyone who has sent additions and corrections to my TURNER
list. Let me work on them a couple months along with some additional sources
I have here and I will post a new listing for comment....
Happy hunting,
David Jones
n4jed@aol.com
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The end of this compilation.