Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:06:07 -0500 (EST)
From: ncreed <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Compilation #72 - Burnett-Turner-Ross-Via-Etc/Etc
1 Dec 1996
Greetings to Everyone:
Hope everyone is enjoying all the compilations. Must admit
we had about three folks to "unsubscribe" as a result of all the
sharing. But we continue to add new folks all the time.
If you haven't sent information on your family lines, maybe
you can do that soon.
Our compilations are stored on Chris Gaunt's homepage:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cgaunt
Happy December.
Nyla
=============================================================
From: Abinadab@aol.com
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 03:03:14 -0500
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: My Burnetts ... and Turners
Dear Nyla,
In my, so far, frustrating search for Arkansas Turners, I forgot that
this is a Burnett list, too! And I have two Burnett women, cousins of each
other, who are direct ancestors of mine. There's a third Burnett woman who's
a cousin or aunt of mine. All three Burnett women married Fithian men! Area
of origination of all three probably is New Jersey:
1. My 8th great granny is Miriam Burnett (1656-1717) who married Enoch
Fithian (1646-1727). One of their children was Jonathan Fithian.
2. My 7th great granny, Sarah Burnett (abt 1680-1745) married that
same Jonathan Fithian (1675-1737). Miriam and Sarah were cousins, according
to one source. That meant Miriam also was Sarah's mother-in-law.
3. The third Burnett girl is Priscilla (probably Miriam's sister)
(1160-1725) who married Samuel Fithian (1655-1720) who was Enoch's brother.
I really would love to link my Burnetts up. If these folks ring one of
your ancestral bells, give me a jingle.
Genealogy's a blast, ain't it!
One reminder:
Desperately seeking Arkansas Turners with a possible Native American
connection. Known so far:
1. Jimmy D. Turner (me) b. 1948 in Salinas, Calif.
2. Robert Ray Turner b. 1914 in Lavaca, Ark.
3. Hugh Turner, b. 1893 in Arkansas.
That's it. That's all I know about my parental line. Ain't it
pittiful? I have dozens of binders crammed full of stuff on my maternal side.
My family tree is lopsided to say the least. Hope you folks can help. I know
we've probably gotten into the deep roots of my Turner family. But I'm having
trouble finding the missing link. So far census searches have been to no
avail. But I'm still digging and I share what I find with my cousins.
Thanks again,
Jim (Abinadab@aol.com)
=======================================================
From: N4JED@aol.com
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 09:16:04 -0500
To: ncreed@erols.com
Subject: Lewis TURNER
A bit of lore for fellow TURNER hunters. The following is from "The Heritage
of Virginia" by James Hagemann. It contains the stories of place names in the
state of Virginia and at $9.95 is well worth having...
TURNERS
Caroline County
On a crown grant of 2,765 acres on the Mattaponi River, Richard Johnson
built his home in 1711. His kinsman, Thomas Johnson (probably his son)
operated a tavern in the old house as late as 1747. He sold it to Lewis
Turner in 1756 with the lawyer Edmund Pendleton acting as the agent. During
the following years, the little community became known as Turner's Store Post
Office, one of the first in the country. After 1800, it was purchased by the
Wright family who discarded the earlier name and called it Green Fall.
David
==================================================================
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 23:20:13 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christine E. Gaunt" <cgaunt@umich.edu>
X-Sender: cgaunt@galaga.rs.itd.umich.edu
To: "Kevin K. Stephenson" <kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
cc: Nyla Creed <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Re: Zipfile of compilations
Hi, Kevin,
> I apologize for not contacting you about that zipfile, before I sent it,
> or at least warning you in advance. It didn't occur to me until it was
> too late that the compilations, the message, and the winzip program
> would amount to a 1 megabyte message. I know what kind of havoc that can
> create, I just didn't think about it in time. I've been spending hours
> and hours working on the Burnett line for Nyla, and I guess I was tired.
Apology accepted - I know how it goes when you finally get something
finished and are tired!
> As to your question about whether or not the compilations should be on
> the net, or distributed through e-mail, I guess I'm not understanding
> your concern. How I got them all in the first place was by opening them
> on your homepage, and then saving them to a file on my computer. I
> assume anyone can do this, so if there's a security issue there, I don't
> see it. I did each one individually, and I thought, for someone who is
> just coming on with us, it would save online time to download the whole
> batch at once, and then browse them offline. I also guess I made a
> faulty assumption that everyone would want or have the room to store all
> of them. I have 5.3 GB of storage on my computer, so for me it isn't an
> issue.
I guess I worded my question wrong. What I meant to ask you was if you
thought there should be email *and* web access, similar to mailing lists.
I run the Campbell-L mailing list, and the archives are retrievable via
email (also searchable) as well as via web and ftp. They currently are
all text files, although at some point I'll have to compress them to make
room on the server. I'll probably have to compress the Burnett/Turner/
Via/Ross/Etc files at some point, too, or else get another 5 megs of home
directory space. Currently my use is not costing me a penny, but might in
the future.
Actually web pages can be accessed via email:
89. WWW by Email.
To get a Web page (text form with a list of documents
referenced within for further requests) send email to
agora@www.undp.org with the following message:
send URL_you_want
You can also get a Web page (text form with coding included
followed by a uuencoded version without the coding), if the
desired Web page is less than 32,786 bytes, by sending email
to webmail@curia.ucc.ie with the following message:
go URL_you_want
(This is the last item in Genealogy Resources on the Internet, and is from
the Email section.) I could add that to the web page, or we could have a
"welcome" file that is sent out when someone asks to join our little
group. Actually, I don't think it's so little anymore!
> I am willing to provide the zipfile directly to anyone who asks for it,
> if you and Nyla have no objections, or I thought you could post it as an
> additional entry on your homepage for download. I don't care how or if
> you do it, I was just trying to help. Your search engine on the
> homepage is really great for searching the files, but, it can cost a
> bunch for someone who's paying Compuserve or AOL. I'm hooked in direct
> to UKans, as I assume you are to UMich, but not everyone's lucky enough
> to have the connection that way.
Helping is great! :-)
I don't really want to have both the text and zipped files on my site,
although I could put them on a different server, the same one I use for my
Campbell-L mailing list. I have no problem if you want to distribute the
zip files (except for using the correct filename for Genealogy Resources
on the Internet). I will add a link to gresinet.zip from the
Burnett/Turner/Etc page, as that file is already on my site.
I'm not sure I want to have winzip or pkunzip available for download, but
I will put in links to places that have them.
I do realize that speed and convenience are valuable -- I've still got my
Compuserve account although I've never used it for internet access because
of the cost. Uploads are free to CIS, so if anyone wants to upload the
compilations to the CIS Roots Forum library, that would make it easier on
CIS subscribers. I don't know if uploads are free on AOL.
> Again, I apologize for any headaches I may have caused you, and I look
> forward to your reply.
Fortunately I only skipped reading my email for a day (Thanksgiving), and
didn't miss any mail that I know of. My site administrators hold email
for a certain length of time, after which it starts bouncing. I think
they give us a month -- I've never let it go that long! :-) So I didn't
have any headaches (hope Nyla didn't, either!). The important point is
that you're trying to help, which we (and future list members) appreciate!
You can upload the zipped compilations to the following ftp site:
ftp.genealogy.org
cd pub/genealogy/surnames/CAMPBELL/upload
I'll move them to the same site that I've put Anthony Turner's wonderful
Tennessee land transaction files, and put in a link to them from the main
web page. Please don't upload the zipped gresinet.txt file, or the winzip
-- I'll put in links to where folks can find them on the internet.
Thanks!
Chris
===========================================================
KEVIN:
Maybe some of the new folks would like a copy of your file. It can
be expensive for folks paying by the minute to read those files. Thank
goodness for those providers who have unlimited access.
Nyla
===============================================================================
From: "Karen Turner" <rdoll@tracy.com>
To: "Nylatalk" <ncreed@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Turner/Blankinship etal
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:54:00 -0800
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Dear Nyla,
I'm researching Turners, like most of the people on your list. I've done
some preliminary checking, and most of your correspondents seem to be
interested a patriarch other than mine, unfortunately.
My Turners are reputed to be descendants of 3 French Huguenots in the
1600's, but so far I have no documentation beyond William Turner (b
1729),of Henrico county. The area where he owned a plantation became
Chesterfield county in 1749, and I've just lately learned it was in
Manchester parish.
I'm sending an alphabetical list of the Turners in my husband's line to
date, hoping someone will recognize an ancestor and give me my next clues.
Thank you for what's obviously a labor of love!
Karen King Turner
rdoll@tracy.com
The TURNER Family
Name Birth date Birth location Spouse
TURNER, Ann
TURNER, Ashley Marie 10 04 1995 Tracy, CA
TURNER, Benjamin
TURNER, Benjamin Kerr 2 24 1852 Orange Co, NC Hopkins, Lucy Ellen
TURNER, Bernice Jacquelin 12 25 1905 Jonesboro, Craighead, AR
Carling, Harrington Flavel
TURNER, Byrd
TURNER, Christian Arthur 6 24 1976
TURNER, Edward Reese 4 12 1910 Jonesboro, Craighead, AR
Haubrich,Helen Bertha
TURNER, Elizabeth Ann 2 17 1936 Cahoon, Gary Carter
TURNER, Elsie Jane 7 30 1930
TURNER, Emma Jane 10 11 1856
TURNER, Florence Louise 2 18 1925
TURNER, Geoffrey David 7 23 1974 San Francisco, CA
TURNER, Geoffrey Lee 3 13 1940 Portland, OR King, Karen Lucille
TURNER, Hannah Chesterfield Cty, VA
TURNER, Henry
TURNER, James Albert 7 08 1816 Chesterfield Cty, VA Minnis, Elizabeth
Elden
TURNER, James Burton 7 14 1928 Marianna AR
TURNER, James N 8 21 1859 Union Co, KY
TURNER, James Puvall 10 14 1847 Union co, KY Cromwell, Mary Ann
TURNER, John Young 6 07 1861 Union Co, KY
TURNER, Julia Ann 7 02 1854 Orange Co, NC
TURNER, Katherine
TURNER, Leslie 5 04 1884 Corydon, KY Corkran, Terah
TURNER, Lovie Commizalle 9 13 1892 Corydon, Union Co, KY Moon, Roy
Smith
TURNER, Loys Elaine 9 04 1924 Aubrey, Lee co, AR
TURNER, Lucy Horner, Benjamin
TURNER, Mary Susan 10 31 1849 Orange Co, NC Yarbrough, DeWitt
Clinton
TURNER, Matthew, Jr 1774 Henrico Co, VA Farmer, Polly
TURNER, Matthew, Sr 1750 Henrico Cty, VA Muse, Martha?
TURNER, Mattie Ann 12 17 1920 Aubrey, Lee co, AR
TURNER, Maxine Cecile 1 07 1937
TURNER, Minnie Belle Hetherington, Earl Stanley
TURNER, Nancy Dee 9 19 1941 Patrick, Francis James
TURNER, Nelson 1814 Chesterfield co, VA McKinney, Amanda
TURNER, Patrick Sean 7 02 1956 Frost, Sandra
TURNER, Paul Wayne 4 04 1922 Aubrey, Lee co, AR
TURNER, Powell Arthur 3 17 1907 Jonesboro, Craighead, AR Manning,
Gladys Elizabeth
TURNER, Roy Leslie 2 08 1919 Aubrey, Lee co, AR
TURNER, Ruby Inez 5 04 1917 LaGrange, Phillips co, AR Woosley, Joe
TURNER, Tabitha 1757 Dale Parish, Henrico cty, VA Hatcher, ?
TURNER, Thomas
TURNER, Thomas Arthur 2 11 1878 Kentucky Powell, Cleopatra Jacquelin
TURNER, Thomas Arthur 10 02 1942 San Diego, CA Le Gurche, Noel Renee
Rathe
TURNER, Thomas Bruce 4 25 1968 La Mesa, CAlifornia Aughinbaugh,
Deborah Lynn
TURNER, Thomas Michael 7 21 1937
TURNER, Thrissa Blance 6 06 1932
TURNER, Virgie Helen 3 04 1916 LaGrange, Phillips co, AR
TURNER, William Hopkins
TURNER, William, Jr Bowers, Nancy
TURNER, William, Sr 1729 Henrico Co, VA Blankinship, Amey
==============================================================
Karen: Don't give up on us. There's bound to be someone else out there who
descends from the Henrico Co VA TURNERs. --- Nyla
==============================================================
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:49:51 -0500
From: Caseys <casey-sc@worldnet.att.net>
Reply-To: casey-sc@worldnet.att.net
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: Newsletter
I signed up for a newsletter and this really nice person told me about
yours. Boy was I ever surprised when I read all the archives. Then I
read them again. I'm getting ready to start them a third time. My
cousin in Texas is doing our family tree. He has put so much time in
it, but I can't wait for him to see this. My maiden name is Turner.
Thank you so much for this wonderful idea. I'm fairly new at the
internet but this has definitely been the most exciting thing I have
found. I know my relatives are in there somewhere and as soon as Billy
Has time to go over this information I know he will find it. Definitely
looking forward to finding the connections or starting a whole new
branch for your readers to add to. Will be sending you our family
information soon. Thanks again I need to get busy reading. Sherry
Casey North Augusta, SC
===================================================================
From: N4JED@aol.com
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:06:51 -0500
To: ncreed@erols.com
Subject: Adding them in...
Nyla,
Finally got to start working on the info you sent me in between all the
compilations. A few comments:
Under Conrad Lewis Peters husband of Clara Snidow...he was born in VA not WV
Under Rebbeca (is that spelled right?) Snidow Peters daughter of Conrad Lewis
Peters...she was born in VA not WV
Under Anderson Pack husband of Rebbeca Snidow Peters...he is born in VA not
WV
under Loammi Lewis Pack son of Anderson Pack...he was born in VA not WV
under Rebecca Catherine Pack... she died in VA not WV
Under you listing on Descendants of Jefferson TURNER, I have not been
satisfied with the connection I believe. Can you expand on Isaac Alexander
Nolens descendants? Specifically, I have an Isaac married to Judith Ann
Turner with no ancestors for either and one child listed - Susana Mae Nolen
born 1879... Is this the same family???
Am adding the others into my list. Thanks,
David
======================================================================
From: N4JED@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 12:19:52 -0500
To: ncreed@EROLS.COM
Subject: George BURNETT
Nyla,
In compilation #42 you responded to Kevin Stephenson with info on a George
BURNETT born 26 Sep 1770. A comment and a question....
The listed birth county did not exist in 1770. Pittsylvania Co. came about in
1776.
Could or is this George BURNETT the one and same as George BURNETT b. abt
1769 son of Isaac BURNETT and Sarah SMALL ?
Thanks,
David
n4jed@aol.com
===================================================================
David: I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. CAN ANYONE HELP WITH THIS ONE?
West Virginia became a state on 20 June 1863. Any event before that
date should be listed as occurring in Virginia. I have not double-checked
some of the information that I have received from GED.COM files or FTW.
There many be other errors. 8(
Since you caught me in an error, can I mention one to you?
Pearisburg is in Giles County, Virginia (not WV).
Nyla
==================================================================
From: Jojo1953@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 16:22:42 -0500
To: ncreed@pop.erols.com
Subject: Catherine Turner
Hi Nyla,
I am hoping someone can help me with my gggg grandmother, Her name was
Catherine Turner, born Jan 7, 1804 and died Aug 24, 1849 in Grant County,
married James Scroggin on Apr 4, 1821 in Grant County, Ky I'm not sure where
she was born. The top of her and James' tombstone says "born in Culpeper Co,
Va". James was born in Culpeper Co but I'm not sure about Catherine. Her
parents may have been Alexander Turner and Elizabeth Sims, I have not been
able to document that.
Thanks,
Jo Ann
=====================================================================
The end of this compilation.