BTRVETC-L Digest Volume 98 : Issue 26
25 Apr 1998
Today's Topics:
Burnetts
TURNER
Re: John Turner and Nancy (Fannie) Burnett
To Jim Spencer
RE: Parchman/Amberson
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:25:37 -0500
From: "lndshll" <lndshll@sprynet.com>
To: "Burnett Turner News Letter" <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: Burnetts
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Hi! I was hoping someone might have information on the following =
Burnetts.John C. Burnett b.1884 who was in Forsythe,Georgia (at least in =
the 1940's) and William or "Willie" Burnett b.Nov.1888 who was in =
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Thanks Ya'll
Linda Burnett Shull
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 04:23:41 EDT
From: Hummerrfun <Hummerrfun@aol.com>
To: btrvetc-l@genealogy.org
Subject: TURNER
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I am researching my TURNER line. Need information on TURNER Tobe (Albert?) b
1867, GA, Married Josehine SHERE (Schere or DUNCAN) abt 1883 TN, she was born
1872 TN. Tobe's parents both born GA, Josehine's parnets born TN. children
Mary 1886 TN
Maggie 1887 TN
Bonnie 1890 TN
Bertha 1892 TN
Clara 1894 TN
Loranda 1896 TN
James 1896 TN
Larence Feb 19, 1897 South Pittsburg, Marion County, TN
Joseph 1900 Choctaw Nation indian Territory (OK)
Myrtle 1903 OK
Effie May Feb 20, 1906, Savanna twp, Pittsburg OK
If anyone knows any of these folks or has a lead on the parents of Tobe TURNER
or Josephine SHERER /DUNCAN (I have two possible last names for Josephine one
from Effie, and on from Larence not sure which is correct yet) Please let me
know. Thanks for your time.
Lori Gibson
P O Box 750
Battle Ground, Wa 98642
Hummerrfun@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:14:53 EDT
From: NCreed1 <NCreed1@aol.com>
To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org
Cc: dspencer@kymtnnet.org
Subject: Re: John Turner and Nancy (Fannie) Burnett
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Folks:
Can anyone help Jim with his question?
Nyla
<< Subj: John Turner and Nancy (Fannie) Burnett
Date: 98-04-22 21:03:02 EDT
From: dspencer@kymtnnet.org (dspencer)
To: ncreed1@aol.com
John and Nancy (Fannie) Burnett were already married when they came to Floyd
County, Kentucky sometime in the very early 1800's. Oral history says they
came from Patrick County, Virginia. John disappeared from the tax rolls in
1843, his wife then appeared. In the 1850 census in Floyd County, Kentucky
Nancy was shown in the household of a son. I was wondering if somewhere there
is information as to a John Turner and Nancy Burnett leaving that general
area.
Thanks,
Jim Spencer >>
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:58:04 -0700
From: "June B." <jbbork@ix.netcom.com>
To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org
Subject: To Jim Spencer
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Jim, if your Nancy/Fannie Burnett Turner was dau of William Burnett from
Patrick who d. in Floyd Co, Ky, Nancy may have gone to Missouri or
Texas.
For those who have not seen the 1850 Census of Floyd Co, Ky. Here are
the Turners:
Family #210;
BURKS TURNER 25 KY
NANCY " 60 VA (1790)
Morgan " 18 Ky
Issa " 16 Ky
WILLIAM " 30 VA (1820)
p.423-#213
ADAM TURNER 38 VA (1812
Margaret 28 Ky (1828
Wm. J. 9 Ky
Elizabeth 7 Ky
Nancy 6 ky
John 5 Ky
Sarah 4 Ky
Samuel 3 Ky
Judah 2 Ky
p.425-#218
WILLIAM BURNETT 88 VA; farmer; $700 (d. 1851, age 100)
John B. 50 Ky
Hannah 48 Va
Adam 46 Va (named after Adam Turner
Wood 14 Ky (gr.son; went to Texas looking for father).
John B., Hannah and Adam remained single;
WILLIAM'S WIFE ELIZABETH WAS STILL LIVING IN PATRICK CO, VA AT THIS
TIME.
/s/ June
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:58:32 -0500
From: "Kevin K. Stephenson" <kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
To: "'pdrisc@surfnj.net'" <pdrisc@surfnj.net>
Cc: "'Burnett-Turner Mailing List'" <btrvetc-l@genealogy.org>
Subject: RE: Parchman/Amberson
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Folks-
I received this inquiry from someone who discovered the information on a
Family Tree Maker CD in the tree I submitted. The Hardemans were connected to
Peter Hardeman Burnett, first governor of California, and a member of my branch
of the tree. Pat has asked for any additional information anyone might have on
these folks, and I told her I'd forward it to you for comment. Anyone have
anything else to add??
Kevin K. Stephenson
1600 Kentucky St. #2
Lawrence, KS 66044
(785)865-1586
Fax/Data: (785)865-2555
e-mail: kevinS@ukans.edu
website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Driscoll [SMTP:pdrisc@surfnj.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 1998 3:37 PM
To: Kevin K. Stephenson
Subject: Re: Parchman/Amberson
Hi Kevin,
Sorry I did not get back to you sooner. Your letter and info on WFT has sent me
back in my files to go over the information I have on the Perchments and
Ambersons.
I am still in that process and am not as sure as I was about Mary Elizabeth
being
the daughter of Peter Perchment. She could only have been the daughter of
Peter,
John or Phillip. Those are the three brothers who are progenitors of all the
Parchmans ( and Parchments and Perchments) in this country. She was clearly in
the
second generation. Peter did have a daughter named Mary who I thought would be
the
one. The problem is that Mary apparently married a man named Hugh Forsyth
according
to documents I have. (I will send them to you when I finish scanning and
correcting
mistakes the scanner made.) John clearly did not have a daughter named Mary -
John
left a will. Phillip may have had a daughter named Mary and some of his
children
did end up in Mississippi and that was the one branch of the family that tended
to
use Parchman as opposed to Parchment or Perchment. I only have names of sons
and
they were born within the same time frame as Mary. The problem with that is
that I
pretty much know all the Ambersons at the time - they were even more sparce
than
Parchmans in the country - and James of Butler County - brother of my ancestor
- is
probably the only person that the spouse of Mary could be. Phillip Parchman
left PA
for the south before James or Mary were born and it would not have been easy
for
James and Mary to have gotten together. Their parents would have known each
other
well earlier in their lifes, but that distance was surely a barrier to romance
in
those days. Also, it is established that two of Peter Perchment's children
married
two siblings of James. I don't know what to think right now. I shall study
some
more. I will send a GEDCOM and related files in a few days when I get
everything
together and as straight as possible in my own mind.
The information you sent was all on the WFT CD that you submitted. I surely
would
appreciate knowing if June Bork can shed any light on this. I do understand
that
this is not a main branch of your family and appreciate the time you spent to
respond. Pat
Kevin K. Stephenson wrote:
> Pat-
> Glad to get your message on Mary Elizabeth Parchman. From the info I have
on
> her, she was married to (1) James Amberson, (2) George Andrew Dilworth, (3)
> James Foster. Foster died in Mississippi, after which Mary married
Blackstone
> Hardeman. I obtained the sketchy information that I have on her from a
> gentleman in Texas who was acquainted with the authors of a genealogical work
> entitled "Cain-Burnett Kin". Blackstone Hardeman was the brother of Dorothy
> Hardeman, who married George Burnett. Their son was Peter Hardeman Burnett,
> the first Governor of the state of California. My primary area of study is
the
> Burnett family, but I am enclosing the contents of a quotation concerning
Mary
> which may or may not have appeared in the CD.
>
> "Provided by Dr. F.W. Wilson:
>
> Mary Parchman first married James Amberson, and they moved to Pennsylvania.
He
> died shortly thereafter. She returned to Mississippi and married George
Andrew
> Dilworth, a widower with two children. She had two children with George
> Dilworth. George died, and she married Captain James "Jim" Foster. James
and
> Mary came to Texas in 1831, where he had a large plantation. He soon died
> while droving horses to Mississippi.
>
> Mary Parchman is a cousin of John Wesley, who founded the Methodist Church."
>
> I tend to agree that, based on your research, Mary Elizabeth Parchman could
> have been born in Pennsylvania and may be a member of the family you
indicate.
> However, since you also indicate that others of the Parchmans settled in
> Mississippi and Texas, I'm uncertain as to on what you base your assertion
that
> Mary Elizabeth was not a child of the Mississippi ancestor. I would very
much
> appreciate receiving as much information about this part of the line as you
can
> share, and I will relay it to the Burnett research group to which I belong.
We
> may be able to get some confirmation on some of your deductions from June
Bork,
> who has authored four books on the Burnett family, and is the official geneo
> logist for the Burnett's of Leys, Scotland. As to the reference to John
> Wesley, I have nothing further on that, but if we could determine who the Dr.
> F.W. Wilson was who provided the information, we might be able to figure out
> the link.
>
> It's not directly in my line, but interesting nonetheless. I'm glad you
found
> the information in my file useful, and I hope I can help more.
> Let me know if you can send me a .gedcom file with the information that
you've
> related in it. Thanks!!
>
> Kevin K. Stephenson
> 1600 Kentucky St. #2
> Lawrence, KS 66044
> (785)865-1586
> Fax/Data: (785)865-2555
> e-mail: kevinS@ukans.edu
> website: http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~kevin2/homepage.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Driscoll [SMTP:pdrisc@surfnj.net]
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 1998 2:34 PM
> To: kevin2@falcon.cc.ukans.edu
> Subject: Parchman/Amberson
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> I am interested in a piece of your information you had on WFT regarding
> Mary Elizabeth Parchman and James Amberson. You have her born in
> Mississippi about 1795 and with James Amberson the first of four
> husbands. My guess is that she was born in Pennsylvania, the daughter of
> Peter Parchman, variously spelled as Perchment or Parchment. I am a
> descendent of Ambersons of Butler County, PA. The original Butler County
> Amberson who was my ancestor was James Amberson. He had 6 surviving
> children, one of whom was named James, who would have been about the
> same age as Mary. Two of James' siblings - neither my ancestor - married
> children of Peter Parchman. Peter did have a daughter named Mary who was
> born in 1798 according to Peter's pension application as a veteran of
> the Revolution. James died around 1821. Given the rarity of both the
> Amberson and Parchman names, I would bet my pension check that I am
> right about James and Mary Elizabeth.
>
> Interestingly I recently obtained a copy of his estate administration in
> Butler County which consisted solely of materials related to a suit
> against one Dunning McNair of Pittsburgh. The estate was awarded
> $2,196.58 in 1838. I had thought that James died in some sort of
> accident - occupational possibly - in which Dunning McNair was held to
> be negligent. James is not my direct ancestor - and he is a much more
> obscure figure in your ancestry, but I am curious about how he died. Do
> you know anything about all of this? I have information about Peter
> Parchman and his family, as well as more general information about the
> Parchmans in America. Apparently all Parchmans are descendants of three
> brothers, Peter, Phillip and John. John and his family ended up in
> primarily Tennessee while Phillip and his family ended up primarily in
> Texas and Mississippi. Mary Elizabeth would have had cousins that might
> have drawn her to Mississippi and her later husbands. The 3 brothers all
> started in PA, apparently. I am also curious about the statement that
> Mary Parchman is a cousin of John Wesley.
>
> Hoping to hear from you. Pat
>
> Patrick Driscoll
> 764 Ocean Ave., #B8
> Long Branch, NJ 07740
> pdrisc@njsurfnet.net
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