BTRVETC-L Digest Volume 98 : Issue 44
3 Jul 1998
Today's Topics:
Shadrach, John ~Edward; Samuel Packwood
Meshach & Shadrach Turner
New Book by the Patrick and Henry County Allied Families
Meshach and Shadrach Turner
Re: Meshach and Shadrach Turner
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:07:45 EDT
From: <NCreed1@aol.com>
To: gturner@preferred.com, BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org
Subject: Shadrach, John ~Edward; Samuel Packwood
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Greetings to Everyone:
Can anyone help with the following question?
Nyla CREED DePauk
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Subj: Shadrock~Edward (Arrochor)
Date: 98-06-29 17:10:19 EDT
From: gturner@preferred.com (Mitosis)
To: NCreed1@aol.com
I'm aware of the "Shadrach, John ~Edward" lineage offered in
Chris' "Decendants of Samuel Packwood", ref comp326-336.
However, was not aware it was solid enough to "publish" at
this time. If that is the case ( noted the * on names) would
you point me to these sources in order that I may correct
my tree accordingly.
(maybe I could justify a trip to Scotland ;=)
Thanks
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:33:38 -0400
From: "Eunice B. Kirkman" <ekirkman@swva.net>
To: "BTRVETC List" <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: Meshach & Shadrach Turner
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Someone recently posted some wills they'd found in Caroline County, VA in
which it was stated that Shadrach & Meshach were brothers.
Repost, please!!! I had a hard drive crash and lost those files. And I
know that others on the list would like to see them.
Eunice B. Kirkman / ekirkman@swva.net
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 23:15:08 EDT
From: <NCreed1@aol.com>
To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org, N4JED@aol.com
Subject: New Book by the Patrick and Henry County Allied Families
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Folks:
David R. Jones asked me to forward the following message to you. Thank you,
David.
Nyla CREED DePauk
http://www.geocities.Heartland/Hills/3412/
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Subj: New Book by the Patrick and Henry County Allied Families
Date: 98-06-29 23:10:07 EDT
From: N4JED
To: NCreed1
Nyla,
Would you please pass this on to the Turner, Via, etc. list for me and any
other group you think appropriate. Some of the subscribers may be interested.
If there is enough response, the Allied Families may print additional copies.
Thanks,
David R. Jones, Jr.
NEW BOOK AVAILABLE FROM PATRICK AND HENRY COUNTY ALLIED
FAMILIES
The Patrick - Henry Allied Families has published another book of members
genealogies representing the founding families of Patrick and Henry Counties
in Virginia. The 255 page books includes families and ancestors submitted by
about 150 members of the organization. Many listings include families back to
the earliest know ancestor in the county all the way up to those born in 1998.
Also included are the family histories of each of the Honorees from the annual
meetings starting with the first Honoree at the 1952 gathering.
The Patrick - Henry Allied Families represents the following families in
Patrick and Henry Counties... ANDERSON, BRAMMER, BURNETT, CORN, HANCOCK,
HATCHER, HOUCHINS, JAMISON, PEDIGO, PENDLETON, PILSON, PRICE, ROSS, STOVALL,
TURNER, VIA and WOOD along with collateral families by marriage. Members were
solicited to provide histories of Family Members in the organization to form a
scrapbook of the families.
Only 100 copies were printed for sale at the June 21st, 1998 annual meeting at
Fairystone State Park in Patrick County, VA. It is my understanding there are
only 20 copies remaining available as of June 27. The 255 pages are three-
hole punched and provided in a binder. Cost is $20.00 plus $3.50 postage and
mailing available on a first come basis (same price as members). Check
availability before ordering with Barbara Pedigo Dillon, P.O. Box 191, Vinton,
VA 24179. Please include an SASE.
I just started working through the book and estimate I will add over 600
people to my computer database. I have been able to tie together several
lines that were previously deadended in my records. In addition, some of the
stories and memories included are priceless.
David R. Jones, Jr. AIA
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:13:00 -0500
From: "Paula Ward" <pward@express-news.net>
To: <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: Meshach and Shadrach Turner
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This is the message Eunice was inquiring about.
Paula
Paula Kelley Ward
San Antonio, Texas
pward@express-news.net
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> > From: Eunice B. Kirkman <ekirkman@swva.net>
> > To: Nyla's List <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
> > Subject: Verfication received
> > Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 9:41 PM
> >
> > The following note accompanied the Caroline County, VA Order Book
copies
> > sent to me by Jeanette O'Boyle. My fervent thanks to her! Like David
> > Jones, I concede that this truly is the correct lineage for Shadrach
and
> > "Old" James Turner of Bedford Co., VA It appears that they were indeed
> > brother's and this lineage apparently originated in Cornwall, England.
> If
> > anyone has evidence that disproves this, speak!!! My thanks to Nyla
> Creed,
> > David Jones, and so many others who have contributed files. Thank You,
> > Jeanette!, I'll have a letter out to you by US mail.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Enclosed are the copies of the Caroline County, Virginia, Order Book
> which I
> > promised to send. A11 other county records were destroyed during the
> Civil
> > War and the Order Book is all that remains.
> > In the first record, dated 12 November 1736, old Richard is deeding
land
> to
> > his sons, Lewis, John, and James. These records are usually recorded in
> age
> > order so Lewis would be the youngest and James the oldest. At this time
> in
> > Virginia English law is in effect and only the oldest inherits when the
> > father dies. All other children were given their inheritance by the
> father
> > before his death. Since the order book does not include a copy of the
> will
> > only the males and one daughter is mentioned. On 12 May 1738 Richard
> Turner
> > acknowledges his son, Richard, Jr.
> > On 8 October 1742 the last will of Richard Tumer, Sr., is presented to
> the
> > court by his wife, Elizabeth. It is acknowledged that Richard, Jr., is
> the
> > heir. It also states that as next oldest, James is eligible to be
> executor
> > but he renounces so wife Elizabeth can be. On 11 March 1743, a new
order
> on
> > the will is presented. James Tumer is now named heir at law and Lewis
> Tumer
> > and Margaret Turner are named executors. Both Elizabeth and Richard,
Jr.,
> > must have died (Richard, Jr., leaving no heirs) so James is now named.
> The
> > next oldest alive, Lewis, and sister Margaret are named executors. Son
> John
> > would have been dead at this time or he would have been named an
executor
> > before Margaret. A male son would never have been passed over to name a
> > daughter. Women under English law had very few rights.
> > The next order of business listed in the Order Book dated 11 Jan 1745
was
> > the naming of guardians for the children of John (so we think).
> Apparently
> > their mother has just died and they have no parents or guardians.
> Shadrack
> > was the oldest and apparently was sixteen or older and needed no
> guardian.
> > Since Shadrack was not mentioned the question is raised is this the
right
> > family? While there are at least two Shadrack Tumers there are only one
> > Meshack and one Abednego. For this reason I would say that this is the
> right
> > Turner family.
> > Now all the guardians would be relatives. James Turner's children and
> Lewis
> > Turner's children both have used Meadows as a given name for their
> children
> > so the guess would be that the mother of James and Lewis would be a
> Meadows.
> > I have not run across the name of Pemberton in any of my Turner
research
> so
> > the assumption could be made that the mother of Shadrack, Meshack, and
> > Abednego was related to the Pembertons, possibly her maiden name was
> > Pemberton. There is no proof of this that I know of.
> > Lastly, l am enclosing a copy of the King and Queen County, Virginia,
> 1704
> > substitute tax roll. This lists Richard Turner. Caroline County was cut
> from
> > King and Queen County in the 1730s. Note, however, that there is
another
> > Tumer listed in King and Queen. However, since the oldest son was
> Richard,
> > Jr., it can be assumed that Richard, Sr.? was the son of a Richard
> Turner,
> > according to the English naming scheme that the Turners followed at
this
> > time
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:22:18 -0500
From: "Paula Ward" <pward@express-news.net>
To: "Martinson" <lmart@crcwnet.com>
Cc: <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: Re: Meshach and Shadrach Turner
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Hi, Linda,
I guess I would go to the following website for information:
Vital Records - Virginia Counties
http://www.inlink.com/~nomi/vitalrec/vacounties.html#Caroline
Caroline County - USGenWeb
Caroline County Clerk
Courthouse
Bowling Green, VA 22427
(804) 633-5800
Caroline County Genealogical Society
P.O. Box 9
Bowling Green, VA 22427
^� Census Online - Caroline County
Hope this helps.
Paula
Paula Kelley Ward
San Antonio, Texas
pward@express-news.net
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> From: Martinson <lmart@crcwnet.com>
> To: Paula Ward <pward@express-news.net>
> Subject: Re: Meshach and Shadrach Turner
> Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 11:20 PM
>
> Paula and all other contributors-
> Thank you for posting this to the list. How do we obtain copies of the
> documents? I like having the "proof" of Turners.
>
> Thanks-
> Linda
> lmart@crcwnet.com
>
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