BTRVETC-L Digest Volume 98 : Issue 58
17 Sep 1998
Today's Topics:
Tidbits & Oddbits
Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS
Burnett Cemetery, Spartanburg, SC
Re: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS
Re: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS
"Old Cemeteries"
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:15:47 -0400
From: "Mitosis" <mitosis@preferred.com>
To: "Btrvetc List" <btrvetc-l@genealogy.org>
Subject: Tidbits & Oddbits
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Well guys & gals... get ready to open your "mad money" cache. Just
returned from a visit to a friend's "Genealogy Room". In some prior
life I believe it to have been a "Den". As we entered the room he
flipped a "wall" switch and indirect lighting bathed the area. Spotlit
ancestorial pictures adorned the wall with approiate brass plaque. It
was then I noted, softly in the background "Amazing Grace". As I
fumbled for my glasses at his request to view his "Family Tree"...
another "wall" switch and the slide show began. (hum... don't guess I
need the glasses) Now I mistakenly called this a slide show, this
actually was a professionally prepared "presentation" complete with
narrative and music. I inquired about the strange numbers following each
"cemetery" listing. "Oh, that's the GPS notation".
I commented about a rather striking reproduction of a "Virginia-1895"
map on the wall. Have seen this reproduction many times, but not
looking this good! I figured it was "on loan" from Williamsburg. He
turned to his son saying, "Andy can you take care of that".
As "good-byes" were being exchanged, Andy appeared with a map tube
containing a copy of "Virginia-1895". To my query as to how this was
accomplished..."Well, I retired a graphics pen plotter at work and
thought I would use it here at home. I really hate those 8X11
reproductions, I think these are much better and maintian the detail."
My thoughts at the moment were... If I had bond paper this good I would
repaper my den with it...oops, I mean "genealogy room"
_MITOSIS_
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 02:45:41 -0400
From: "Mitosis" <mitosis@preferred.com>
To: "Btrvetc List" <btrvetc-l@genealogy.org>
Subject: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS
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Something has trouble me of late and maybe somebody can offer some
insight into the "type" individuals I'm encountering.
Example:
"Trying to locate 'Blah Blah Burnett, or Turner, or Via, etc. Can you
help?"
If I have the information, try to supply complete family group and end
by saying " If I can be of further assistance, let me know". If they
request additional information it generally is specific in nature and if
available this is supplied also.
Now I don't supply my notes... Why, I read this book when I started
genealogy and it advised to makes notes as it thinking and talking
aloud. Well, that's just what I did therefore, my notes tend to be too
saucey for distribution. Source information is no problem.
However, when I request that they share information, like for a branch
of my family not fully developed... the connection goes DOA (dead on
arrival). I'm sure some of the readers will recall my passionate search
for the lost soul "Charlie King Turner". This prompted a query from
someone who need verification that one of the family members of the
family group in question was in fact the wife of another of the group...
sorry for all that, but I still find it a problem to bash a woman.
After making the said connection for this person, I request if they
might share information on the family group associated with the ancestor
referenced. D...O...A
Hell, I can accept a "no I shall not share any with you, I got what I
needed... so kiss off". But DOA!
Figured I would read all the compiled files, maybe the proper protocol
would be revealed therein. These "Sourdoughs" (that's a good nick for
that gang, course gotta know what "starter" is to appreciate) posted
any and all they had, and I do mean all...queries flew back and forth as
one connection after another was ferreted out. You can see the Burnett
and Turner trees develope before your eyes. This was no "stealth"
operation, it was awesome and worth your review. I would list their
names, but afraid I might miss one, so read the files... the
"sourdoughs" are easy to spot. Now, I'm old enough to know that "good
old days" never return, however for those just starting this "hobby",
"addiction", take your choice, you should read these files just so you
will know how it's suppose to work.
So... to all you sourdoughs still out there, Thank You... without your
help I should have never known my roots.
Bless you and yours....
And yes, please... how does one handle the "leeches"
_MITOSIS_
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:44:05 -0400
From: "BRITT BURNETT" <bkburnett@worldnet.att.net>
To: <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: Burnett Cemetery, Spartanburg, SC
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For all of those interested, I've added pictures of the Burnett cemetery
from my visit last January to my website:
http://home.att.net/+AH4-bkburnett/index.html
I apologize that the pictures do not show elaborate details, but the
cemetery is not in very good shape. The pictures are a good representation
of the cemetery. Please write if you have more interest.
Britt Burnett
bkburnett+AEA-att.net
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:23:44 EDT
From: NCreed1@aol.com
To: BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org
Subject: Re: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS
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Greetings to Everyone:
In a message dated 9/14/98 11:47:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
mitosis@preferred.com writes:
<< And yes, please... how does one handle the "leeches" >>
Thoughts from a sourdough: When I started the BTRVETC group, I thought it was
going to be a one-time, maybe two at the most, mailing. Never in my
imagination did I think it would develop into the kind of exchange we have
witnessed.
>From day one, folks gave from their heart. We were hungry for information.
We wanted to share with others. We were more into giving, I believe, than
receiving. I watched David develop a database on Turners by feeding his
computer as the info was shared. We waited patiently for his updates, knowing
that he would connect more families and make the picture clearer for us.
This group of people loves sharing. We developed friendships. It is truly a
family. We were supportive of each other then and still encourage each other.
It didn't seem to matter to any of us which lines we were currently
discussing. We had as many ETC families as we did Burnetts, Turners, Rosses,
and Vias. We watched the Via researchers expand, and applauded when Judy and
Sandy started their Via list. We learned from the experts. June was there
whenever we had a Burnett question. We even had some good jokes shared. We
prayed for members of our group when they let us know they were ill or had
other concerns. When we outgrew my "cut and paste" capabilities, Chris
automated our group. Many of us established our own homepage and started
sharing our homepage addresses.
We had one rule. It was so simple. "We have no rules." Whatever anyone
wanted to share, ask, or say was okay. Since we had no rules, no one got
flamed for breaking the rules. Everyone treated everyone else with respect.
And, those of us could be considered "starters" were patient with the newbies.
We had been there at one point, and remembered the kindness shown to us along
the way.
And in our sharing, sometimes we received information from someone who
recognized the person we were researching. And sometimes, we didn't receive
the information that we were hoping to receive. But we marched on, never
regretting that we had shared and helped someone else. Sometimes, we received
information that we had requested immediately. Sometimes, it was months later
when it arrived. Sometimes, I needed a nudge when I didn't follow through on
sharing information that I had promised.
Most of us are busy with other things. I promise to send information and
fully intend to do just that. Then I get distracted. Sometimes, just a
reminder is all that is needed to get that information we're longing to
receive. So, a little nudge or gentle reminder often works miracles.
Occasionally, for whatever reason, a person may choose not to share
information. And when that happens, there's not much we can do about it.
That's life. Maybe the information will come from another "cousin."
So, I encourage you not to be discouraged; but to keep your enthusiasm and
continue to brighten our emails with your wonderful excitement, which you
demonstrated when you found Charlie King Turner. We share your passion for
genealogy, too.
Nyla
Nyla CREED DePauk
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3412
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 01:18:10 -0400
From: "Mitosis" <mitosis@preferred.com>
To: <NCreed1@aol.com>, <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: Re: Tidbits & Oddbits And SOURBITS
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>Thoughts from a sourdough: When I started the BTRVETC group, I thought
it was
>going to be a one-time, maybe two at the most, mailing. Never in my
>imagination did I think it would develop into the kind of exchange we
have
>witnessed.
>
>>From day one, folks gave from their heart. We were hungry for
information.
>We wanted to share with others. We were more into giving, I believe,
than
>receiving. I watched David develop a database on Turners by feeding
his
>computer as the info was shared. We waited patiently for his updates,
knowing
>that he would connect more families and make the picture clearer for
us.
>Nyla CREED DePauk
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3412
Now there's a message for my archives... Nyla, thanks for history behind
BTRVETC and for the creation thereof. Certainly the information
received from this site has filled many a hole in my database. And
David, well his mind is quicker than the computer the data is entered
upon... "Puzzler" elite and no peers in sight. He was so much help to
me in resolving the "Charlie King Turner" problem. Let me state for all
to know that David did 99% of the cipher, I was just along for the ride.
One thing for sure... Nyla, you couldn't have choosen any better than
Chris to pick up the "traces", she has a style and grace not unlike your
own. Your "idea" certianly grew beyond expections... a great plus for
researches of any for no less than the example it set.
I suppose in reply to my posting... have heard from most of the
"Sourdoughs", all with encourgement and "push forward" movitation. It
was particularly pleasing to find that all seem to be "lurking" about
and not far from the scene. I related sometime back on this site...
"Doubt there's a Burnett Tree anywhere that does not bear June Borks
fingerprints". That statement is as true now as when first posted. At
present I understand she's tearing up the terrian in Scotland looking
for more "Burnetts'". Eunice and Caroline, now there's a couple gals
I'd like to get my arms around. If anyone can't define "sharing", they
need to check these two out. Believe Eunice has laid aside her pen for
the moment, she has recently suffered loss of loved one... and needs
time. We miss you Eunice, and our hearts hope to touch yours at this
time. Caroline, well she would encourge a fox in the hen house... big
heart on a small frame. So... to all the "SourDoughs", thanks for
making it real.
_Mitosis_
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:29:45 -0400
From: "Wm. W. Turner" <wwturner@zoomnet.net>
To: "BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org" <BTRVETC-L@genealogy.org>
Subject: "Old Cemeteries"
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Concerning old cemeteries,
Has anyone ever heard that you could get a good picture of an old stone by sprinkling
flour over the letters? Just regular flour is supposed to make the letters stand out where
they can easily be seen . I have yet to try this method , but it sounds great.
Wm. W. Turner
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