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PW[Lecture]PB[8]DT[2007-10-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Lecture 9

Attack and Defense (1)
Basics of Attack and Defense

Topics :

Capping Moves
Keima
Leaning Attacks
Splitting Attacks
Attacking for Profit

Important Concepts:
"Build strength before attacking"
"Attack from afar"
"Always be careful with your reading"
"Defend by attacking"Shana [1k\]: again? O.o
Iink [-\]: hi yithril
yithril [2d\]: my friend is an idiot
Seakneeboy [8k\]: lol
Iink [-\]: ?
yithril [2d\]: thats my excuse
Shana [1k\]: yes we know ^^
Iink [-\]: wht???
Rukawa [7k?\]: lecture?
yithril [2d\]: yeah in 2 minutes
saru411 [9k\]: where is the lecture?
Iink [-\]: lol
Rukawa [7k?\]: cool
yithril [2d\]: umm here
saru411 [9k\]: ok
Shana [1k\]: fine mr punctual
Seakneeboy [8k\]: audio
Seakneeboy [8k\]: ?
yithril [2d\]: yes
wildseven [-\]: no audio
Iink [-\]: :D
wildseven [-\]: ??
Shana [1k\]: aww now i cant listen to music
yithril [2d\]: not yet
HonFu [3k\]: hmm ... audio?
HonFu [3k\]: a scribe?
yithril [2d\]: i will thype
yithril [2d\]: macht dir keine sorgen
HonFu [3k\]: ah, great ^_^
Iink [-\]: I put the misuc in low volume :D
HonFu [3k\]: danke schoen
wildseven [-\]: is your mic broke ?
Shana [1k\]: still the voices mix up and sound horrible
Seakneeboy [8k\]: just yithril's voice
Iink [-\]: don´t have a outside soun system?
Seakneeboy [8k\]: oh ok
Iink [-\]: let´s rock :D
Shana [1k\]: i drank like 2 gallons of water today ^ _ ^
Rukawa [7k?\]: lol
Shana [1k\]: not all at once
Iink [-\]: lol
wildseven [-\]: iam allmost done with my 1 gallon of apple juice
Shana [1k\]: ooh i just noticed the players name place says lecture 8
Rukawa [7k?\]: 2 liter a day is just fine
tenseiga [-\]: hi
yithril [2d\]: actually its a typo
yithril [2d\]: we're on 9
Rukawa [7k?\]: yes
Seakneeboy [8k\]: yes
Iink [-\]: yes
tenseiga [-\]: yeah
inochi33 [8k\]: yes
Shana [1k\]: yes
Shana [1k\]: xD
wildseven [-\]: again ?
Seakneeboy [8k\]: yeah
wildseven [-\]: not yet
volatile [10k\]: one :D
Shana [1k\]: i can hear really loud but cant her clearly =/
Iink [-\]: speack slower xD
Seakneeboy [8k\]: get closer to the mic
wildseven [-\]: lol
Iink [-\]: thx
Seakneeboy [8k\]: yeah
Shana [1k\]: yup
wildseven [-\]: yeah\\
Seakneeboy [8k\]: :-)
HonFu [3k\]: link - are you the scribe?
Iink [-\]: me xD
volatile [10k\]: it's helpful :D
Seakneeboy [8k\]: nice to have
Rukawa [7k?\]: sfg?
Seakneeboy [8k\]: almost too much
HonFu [3k\]: really. dont have a sound card 
volatile [10k\]: it was a lot to go through
Shana [1k\]: sgf
Rukawa [7k?\]: cool
wildseven [-\]: i will dl it later
wildseven [-\]: it will be very helpfull
yithril [2d\]: http://www.umich.edu/~goclub/index.html
yithril [2d\]: under resources
wildseven [-\]: thnx
Seakneeboy [8k\]: nit it
Seakneeboy [8k\]: notit
Seakneeboy [8k\]: !!
inochi33 [8k\]: me
saru411 [9k\]: try what?
wildseven [-\]: iam def
inochi33 [8k\]: sure
wildseven [-\]: inochi will ?
Seakneeboy [8k\]: way to take one for the team
inochi33 [8k\]: what does it mean
wildseven [-\]: type what he says
wildseven [-\]: XD
Seakneeboy [8k\]: lol!!!
inochi33 [8k\]: lol
wildseven [-\]: omg
wildseven [-\]: lol
wildseven [-\]: my god
Rukawa [7k?\]: lol
Shana [1k\]: heh
wildseven [-\]: sory yithril
Shana [1k\]: WOOHOO!
wildseven [-\]: blair you scrib 
wildseven [-\]: e*
blairz74 [3k\]: huh?
blairz74 [3k\]: oh sound is off
saru411 [9k\]: topic = attack and defence
yithril [2d\]: So todays lecture is on basics of attack and defense
Iink [-\]: *scriber* *scriber*
Iink [-\]: xD
]
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(;B[qd]C[inochi33 [8k\]: i've studied a little on attack and tesuji, hehe nothing else though
BenBinder [16k\]: how can I get audio?
Shana [1k\]: dot dot dot
Rukawa [7k?\]: does it means something about a slow and fast moves?
yithril [2d\]: one of the important concepts of attack and defense
yithril [2d\]: is staying ahead of your opponent
Shana [1k\]: r u playing drums?
Seakneeboy [8k\]: are you wrestling with the mic
wildseven [-\]: ill scribe for you
Shana [1k\]: oh sorry
tenseiga [-\]: haha xD
Iink [-\]: *scriber* funny noise
wildseven [-\]: -_-
wildseven [-\]: ok
HonFu [3k\]: whsts happening?
inochi33 [8k\]: oh that what it means
saru411 [9k\]: i think the mic won
BenBinder [16k\]: HOW TO GET AUDIO???
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: pro game ino
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(;W[od]C[Shana [1k\]: turn on ur speakers
PRIMOXVR [3k\]: yithril
PRIMOXVR [3k\]: i must know
blairz74 [3k\]: calm down please....
wildseven [-\]: *ill show you basic joseki to be ahead*
Iink [-\]: 2 scribers is better, cuz what one don´t get, the other will say
BenBinder [16k\]: they are on
PRIMOXVR [3k\]: who is that attractive lady in the picture 
Shana [1k\]: turn on ur volume
tenseiga [-\]: lol
inochi33 [8k\]: lol mello duh
wildseven [-\]: *that is a guy first off*
Seakneeboy [8k\]: this is insane
wildseven [-\]: *laugh*
Shana [1k\]: have u ever watched death note?...
saru411 [9k\]: LOL
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;B[qf]C[PRIMOXVR [3k\]: omg thats a guy
wildseven [-\]: *b play pincer*
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;B[qh]LB[od:A][qd:D][of:B][qf:E][oh:C][qh:F]SQ[rd][re][rf][rg][rh]C[wildseven [-\]: w jumps*
wildseven [-\]: w jumps again*
Seakneeboy [8k\]: black and white are keeping pace
HonFu [3k\]: always this oftten?
wildseven [-\]: *d,e,f are for territory
inochi33 [8k\]: case a shadow
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;W[id]TR[id][ld][od][qd][of][qf][oh][qh]C[inochi33 [8k\]: over that one stone
wildseven [-\]: w moves how ever do not necesarriry make territory
wildseven [-\]: talk slowly
wildseven [-\]: -_-
Seakneeboy [8k\]: whites aim is to attack m16
Iink [-\]: and clearly
saru411 [9k\]: just scribe the ideas he is saying, dont worry about every word
wildseven [-\]: ok
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(;B[lg]C[wildseven [-\]: **b plays 2 space to run to the center*
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;W[ke]C[wildseven [-\]: *now black has to deal with m16 stone*
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(;B[lf]C[wildseven [-\]: *w is all ready ahead*
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;W[lh]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: white is ahead so we have to play faster
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(;W[dc]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: in middle game fighting the center determines who has control of the fight
inochi33 [8k\]: two 9ks?
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;B[dq]C[Rukawa [7k?\]: *control center, control fight, in middle game
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;W[pq]C[wildseven [-\]: *who ever controls center ,controls the fight*
inochi33 [8k\]: what level game was this
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;B[hd]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: b h16 is to press white
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(;W[hc]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* going for the middle game
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;B[id]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: white submissive and gets sealed
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;B[jd]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: this is from a pro game
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;W[kc]TR[gc][hc][ic][kc][hd][id][jd]C[wildseven [-\]: -_- k iam not gonna scribe no more
Seakneeboy [8k\]: same idea of getting ahead
Iink [-\]: =\]
Iink [-\]: *scriber* if tenuki, b h17 
Seakneeboy [8k\]: these moves are a struggle to get ahead
Seakneeboy [8k\]: white = territory black = thickness
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;B[ck]TR[hd][id][jd]C[skamus [-\]: is that joseki??? looks too ugly for w.
Seakneeboy [8k\]: this is effective use of black thiness
Iink [-\]: *scriber* black attack c11 
Seakneeboy [8k\]: thickness
Rukawa [7k?\]: *attack to make territory from the thickness
skamus [-\]: thank you
]
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;B[ek]TR[cl][cm][dn][do][dp]SQ[hd][id][jd][fe]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: lots of pincer joseki look like this, if you know the basic idea you will more or less know about 10-20 joseki
Seakneeboy [8k\]: guage points on both sides and look for joseki
inochi33 [8k\]: it seems to easy for white to escape at c11
Rukawa [7k?\]: *keep  close
saru411 [9k\]: profit normally comes somewhere else than your thickness
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;B[ii]SQ[hd][id][jd][fe]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: referance - lessons in the fundamentals of go chapter four for "the struggle to get ahead" by Kageyama
Seakneeboy [8k\]: capping is useful for keeping control of center (very important
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;W[qo]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: black gets profit from his attack
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;W[fl]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: also attack and defense is great as well, good read
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;B[dm]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* k9 moves looks to r10 area
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(;B[]C[wildseven [-\]: control is points
Shana [1k\]: points is win
wildseven [-\]: yup
Iink [-\]: *scribe* win is the way ro pro
Seakneeboy [8k\]: what about defense against the dark arts?
Iink [-\]: ups
Iink [-\]: sry, without *scribe*
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: expellliamus!
volatile [10k\]: thank you yithril
sensei418 [12k\]: thanks 
Shana [1k\]: it was so helpful xD thx
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yeahs jon, informative
Seakneeboy [8k\]: lol
skamus [-\]: bye bye good lecture
firstaid [1k\]: it was great! thanks a lot
joekun [10k\]: yup thanks ^^
wildseven [-\]: this lecture  is been sponsored by "a death gods tale"   under social 
Iink [-\]: thx
wildseven [-\]: xD thnx jon
yithril [2d\]: http://www.umich.edu/~goclub/index.html 
HonFu [3k\]: thx !
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: attack and defense is really really excellent book too
Seakneeboy [8k\]: beer at my place and a scary movie if you want in yith
yithril [2d\]: under resources
Seakneeboy [8k\]: later all
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: later guys
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: have fun
yithril [2d\]: fun lecture
Seakneeboy [8k\]: yep
volatile [10k\]: hm,i like the examples.  can we have more examples in the future? :D
wildseven [-\]: hmm
Seakneeboy [8k\]: ciao
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firstaid [1k\]: 9p
inochi33 [8k\]: oh
inochi33 [8k\]: sorry
katonjutsu [1d\]: XD
Iink [-\]: xD
skamus [-\]: lol
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: i hear you fine jon btw
wildseven [-\]: 9p vs 9p
inochi33 [8k\]: looks to one sided
Seakneeboy [8k\]: calm dow yith :-)
Iink [-\]: *scriber* 2 9 pros
Seakneeboy [8k\]: lol
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ChemBoy613 [7k\]: kemia looks appropriate here
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: mobility
Seakneeboy [8k\]: keima
inochi33 [8k\]: cap
Iink [-\]: *scriber* lots of ways
firstaid [1k\]: jump
firstaid [1k\]: C
Shana [1k\]: b
volatile [10k\]: jump
volatile [10k\]: c
Iink [-\]: *scriber* attack, run, ...
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: B looks best in my opinion
tenseiga [-\]: b
skamus [-\]: A
Seakneeboy [8k\]: no C
freeugh: a ! : D
wildseven [-\]: b
BenBinder [16k\]: B
Rukawa [7k?\]: A
wildseven [-\]: peep
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(;B[je]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: like a self-peep ben
wildseven [-\]: exactly
wildseven [-\]: xD
Seakneeboy [8k\]: love the theatrics
]
;W[ke]C[wildseven [-\]: whats funny jon ? ;)
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(;B[ie]C[BenBinder [16k\]: B for BenBinder
Iink [-\]: *scriber* A,B,C or D
wildseven [-\]: running the stones
Iink [-\]: *scriber* D is more correct
wildseven [-\]: xD
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;W[ke]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: lol you at ER still?
])))
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wildseven [-\]: leading and attack
wildseven [-\]: an*
firstaid [1k\]: leaning attack
wildseven [-\]: lol iam def
Princy [1d\]: i tinhk its leaning  attack)*
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: make thickness by a shoulder hit on D9
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ?
wildseven [-\]: kk
Princy [1d\]: p15?
wildseven [-\]: it will
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: E10
Princy [1d\]: p15
Seakneeboy [8k\]: tengen
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: LOL sean
firstaid [1k\]: r15 
wildseven [-\]: d12
Seakneeboy [8k\]: ahh go back
wildseven [-\]: yes
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(;W[qe]C[Princy [1d\]: hmm
Iink [-\]: *scriber* r15 is correct
Seakneeboy [8k\]: black r 14
Iink [-\]: he destroy 
Seakneeboy [8k\]: o 14
Seakneeboy [8k\]: sry
Seakneeboy [8k\]: o14
volatile [10k\]: nice
Seakneeboy [8k\]: k
Seakneeboy [8k\]: thx
wildseven [-\]: r15 is perfect for this situation
]
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Seakneeboy [8k\]: reduction move
HonFu [3k\]: but white hasnt made too many points, had he?
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;W[qf]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* attack r16 
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;B[rd]C[Princy [1d\]: yup
Seakneeboy [8k\]: after the attach
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;W[og]C[wildseven [-\]: r15 is preety complex 
Seakneeboy [8k\]: throw away two stones right?
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(;B[mj]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber* hane makes weak
Seakneeboy [8k\]: sac two stones
wildseven [-\]: kill
wildseven [-\]: useless
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;B[kj]C[Iink [-\]: *scriber*  o10 no points
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ChemBoy613 [7k\]: no points
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Seakneeboy [8k\]: guess I dont see it
wildseven [-\]: yeah
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ChemBoy613 [7k\]: P17 looks weak
Iink [-\]: too fast @.@
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ssshhh just listen link
Iink [-\]: k
HonFu [3k\]: L4 line weak?
Iink [-\]: sry
Iink [-\]: TT.TT
wildseven [-\]: yithril your breaking 
Seakneeboy [8k\]: attacking weak groups ios about timing
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: might be your shotty connection ben
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: he soudns fine here
wildseven [-\]: internet much be going down
wildseven [-\]: yes
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: however, since N3 isn't really settled, we attack from direction?
wildseven [-\]: weak group are liabilities
Iink [-\]: *scriber* l4 no base
wildseven [-\]: L line is a liability
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skamus [-\]: q8 
Rukawa [7k?\]: p8?
wildseven [-\]: p9
Rukawa [7k?\]: i mean q8
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: L11 or M5
firstaid [1k\]: l10 
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ? XD
BenBinder [16k\]: what was the question?
Seakneeboy [8k\]: r10
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: black to play
wildseven [-\]: c
Rukawa [7k?\]: r3
HonFu [3k\]: hasnt black not L2 and R2?
skamus [-\]: o16 
HonFu [3k\]: why not attack immediately K10?
Rukawa [7k?\]: settle down first and attack later?
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: L10 maybe?
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ChemBoy613 [7k\]: XD  barely got it in
Seakneeboy [8k\]: attack top
Iink [-\]: not let it run?
skamus [-\]: because youre a pro?
Iink [-\]: lol
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: he is going to build thickniess while chasting this group to make a sever attack on O17
Rukawa [7k?\]: p6 to attack both group?
Iink [-\]: *scriber* open space at the top
wildseven [-\]: that move is hardcore its insane !!
Iink [-\]: *scriber* keep white weak
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Shana [1k\]: well... this lecture is on attacking xD
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;W[kj]C[wildseven [-\]: attack and defence
Seakneeboy [8k\]: seems like a good idea also
Seakneeboy [8k\]: l12
Seakneeboy [8k\]: L12
skamus [-\]: yeah... maybe kindda lacks direction
HonFu [3k\]: yes, now certainly y<es?
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ChemBoy613 [7k\]: R10
Iink [-\]: *scriber* white turn
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: R10 looks idea tho :S
skamus [-\]: n10 
Shana [1k\]: n10 
Seakneeboy [8k\]: what the question
tenseiga [-\]: n10
Seakneeboy [8k\]: oh
skamus [-\]: n9 
wildseven [-\]: B
Shana [1k\]: tenuki? xD
wildseven [-\]: c11
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: N10 looks good if we are trying to seal black
wildseven [-\]: hmm tricky
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: both look good to me
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(;W[qj]C[wildseven [-\]: ok slightly pissed ?
Shana [1k\]: yup he sounds mad
Seakneeboy [8k\]: POWER!!!!\\
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wildseven [-\]: slack !!
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: chase and make profit
Seakneeboy [8k\]: weak
Princy [1d\]: attackes 2 groups
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: :)
wildseven [-\]: yithril is mad now
firstaid [1k\]: double attack
wildseven [-\]: xD
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: haha
wildseven [-\]: lol
Seakneeboy [8k\]: we love you yith
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: no it doesn't, but it takes away any eye shape while settling P7
Iink [-\]: *scriber* I`M NOT MAD
BenBinder [16k\]: HAHA
wildseven [-\]: we do !! ^^
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: at least was my thgouht
Seakneeboy [8k\]: they get weak
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: XD
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: right I see the point of N10 as well
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firstaid [1k\]: d5 
Shana [1k\]: no?
volatile [10k\]: bottom left?
Seakneeboy [8k\]: b6 group
wildseven [-\]: look for weak group
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: most groups look setted byt the D5 group doesn't really ahve a complete shape
Shana [1k\]: >.<
Princy [1d\]: d7
wildseven [-\]: n has this moyo
wildseven [-\]: b
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yeah that is a lot of power
Princy [1d\]: f10?
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: cap?
Seakneeboy [8k\]: say that one more time
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: or kemia
wildseven [-\]: have your opponent walk to thier moyo
Princy [1d\]: but looks a lil thin
Seakneeboy [8k\]: ok thanks
]
;W[em]
;B[en]
;W[dm]
;B[dn]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: beautiful idea
]
;W[gl]
;B[hn]
;W[hp]LB[hn:A][hp:B]C[wildseven [-\]: if your opponent has huge moyo let them walk you in thier moyo
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: such a great attack here
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: strong white
Seakneeboy [8k\]: indeed
wildseven [-\]: PAY ATTENTION
Princy [1d\]: ...
skamus [-\]: nice
Seakneeboy [8k\]: attacking gets you profit
]
;B[im]
;W[ik]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: defending doesn't
Princy [1d\]: f13 is huge now
Princy [1d\]: huuuge
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yes princy
Seakneeboy [8k\]: yes!
volatile [10k\]: yes
])
(;AW[ka][oa][pa][kb][mb][ob][dc][jc][kc][lc][nc][oc][nd][de][ie][oe][qe][cf][mf][nf][of][qf][lg][mg][og][lh][nh][li][ck][lk][np][pp][gq][jq][qq]AB[qa][jb][pb][rb][fc][hc][ic][mc][pc][id][jd][kd][ld][md][od][pd][qd][me][ne][kg][qg][jh][mh][oh][ph][mi][ni][jj][pl][cm][qn][cp][rp][eq]LB[mg:A][kp:D][lp:C][mp:B]C[wildseven [-\]: we wanna make that we dont have weak groups
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: absolutely jon
Iink [-\]: *scribe* one more exemple
firstaid [1k\]: b to move?
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: whit's group in the middle
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: white's
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: no eyes
Iink [-\]: *scribe* where is the weak group
skamus [-\]: m9 really weak..
Iink [-\]: *scribe* 1st question to urs selfs
firstaid [1k\]: n4 
Iink [-\]: *scribe* 2nd how to attack
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: play something around M4... force white to defend, get some thickness then come back to attack
Shana [1k\]: l4 
skamus [-\]: m7 
Seakneeboy [8k\]: lean on it to attack lower side
HonFu [3k\]: n4
Seakneeboy [8k\]: l3
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: hehe <3 link
Iink [-\]: =\]
volatile [10k\]: yah
wildseven [-\]: yes
]
;W[]
;B[kp]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: M7 is direct attack not leaning attack
]
(;W[kq]
;B[lp]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: white is split and weak like that
]
;W[lq]
;B[mp]
;W[mq]
;B[lm]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ouch
])
(;W[oj]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* if w tenuki b cut white
Iink [-\]: *scribe* with this create more pressure
skamus [-\]: lol
]
;B[oi]
;W[jp]C[wildseven [-\]: offence is defence in this game
]
;B[nk]
;W[kl]
;B[kn]
;W[jo]LB[jn:B][ko:A]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: B
Seakneeboy [8k\]: B
skamus [-\]: k6 '
]
;B[jn]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* A or B?
skamus [-\]: a is heavy..
HonFu [3k\]: b
]
;W[il]
;B[in]
;W[nl]
;B[ol]
;W[nm]
;B[mp]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* keep w separete
]
;W[no]
;B[mk]
;W[ml]
;B[lm]
;W[ll]
;B[kq]CR[jo][jp][gq][jq][kq]TR[lg][mg][lh][lk][ll][ml][nl][nm][no][np][pp]SQ[gm][hm][fn][gn][hn][in][jn][kn][fo]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: yikes
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: really a beautiful line of play
Iink [-\]: *scribe* connect, but with no points
firstaid [1k\]: b got lotsa points and destroyed lotsa points
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: now both bottom groups are weak
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: the B group is also weak
Iink [-\]: *scribe* got a new weack group to attack :D
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: right
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: I mean K3 and L3 groups
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: white isnt' strong enough to split?
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: start with G6?
]
;W[gn]C[firstaid [1k\]: h7 
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: elephat!
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: elephan
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: t
Iink [-\]: *scribe* b can go out
]
;B[hm]LB[gp:B][hr:A]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: was looking at bottom group's shape
])
(;W[]
;B[kq]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* game path - l4 
]))
(;AW[pb][kc][nc][dd][fd][ce][bf][cm][qm][dn][po][dp][qp][cq][qq]AB[qc][pd][cf][pf][ci][qk][cl][dl][np][fq][iq][pq][dr][qr][rr]SQ[cm][dn][dp][cq]C[Iink [-\]: yes
wildseven [-\]: ohh finaly
Shana [1k\]: r7 
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yeah
Princy [1d\]: yup
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: r7 is weakest
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: undercut
Princy [1d\]: p9
firstaid [1k\]: o6 
]
;W[]C[tenseiga [-\]: yes
]
;B[nn]C[BenBinder [16k\]: Thank you, yithril, gotta go.. 
volatile [10k\]: mmhm
Princy [1d\]: ya
Shana [1k\]: yes sir!
]
;W[om]
;B[ml]
;W[dh]
;B[di]
;W[eh]
;B[fj]
;W[fn]
(;B[hn]TR[ml][hn][jn][kn][ln][nn][jo][lo][jp][kp][lp]
(;W[je]C[Princy [1d\]: o9 looks sente tho
Princy [1d\]: p9*
]
;B[cr]
;W[bl]
;B[bk]
;W[bm]
;B[hj]
;W[ok]
;B[pi])
(;W[cr]
;B[je]))
(;B[ok]
;W[rk]C[Princy [1d\]: no
Princy [1d\]: lol
]
(;B[rl]
;W[ql]C[Princy [1d\]: r10
]
(;B[rj]
;W[pk]
;B[qj]
;W[pj]C[firstaid [1k\]: just s10 
])
(;B[qj]
;W[rj]C[Princy [1d\]: s11
firstaid [1k\]: o_O
]
;B[ri]
;W[rm]C[Princy [1d\]: s10
]
;B[sj]
;W[sl]C[Princy [1d\]: hmm
]))
(;B[rj]
;W[rl]C[firstaid [1k\]: yup
firstaid [1k\]: b fine
Princy [1d\]: s8
Princy [1d\]:  but not s10
]
;B[qj]C[Princy [1d\]: no..
])))
(;AW[cc][dc][hc][kc][pc][cd][qd][ce][cf][df][dg][qg][cj][ck][dk][cl][cn][dn][pn][qn][jq][mq]AB[eb][ob][qb][ec][nc][dd][fd][de][cg][ch][di][dj][ek][dl][el][rm][co][qo][ro][dp][gp][np][pp]C[Two kgs 5 kyusChemBoy613 [7k\]: yes
Iink [-\]: *scribe* next exemple
Shana [1k\]: heh destroyed
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: so white split the wrong way?
yithril [2d\]: before you attack
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: "maxium pain" I love it jon
yithril [2d\]: you need to make it so your opponent suffers the maximum pain
wildseven [-\]: o.o
Shana [1k\]: ooh
wildseven [-\]: attacking is control
]
(;W[ej]
(;B[ei]
;W[fj]
;B[fi]
;W[gj]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* w cuts
]
;B[gl]
(;W[gi]C[Seakneeboy [8k\]: I want your children yith
])
(;W[fn]C[tenseiga [-\]: o.o
]
;B[gn]
;W[fm]
;B[gk]
;W[gm]
;B[ik]
;W[hj]
;B[fg]
;W[ff]
;B[gf]
;W[fe]
;B[ge]
;W[ed]
;B[gc]
;W[hd]
;B[gd]
;W[gg]
;B[gh]
;W[hg]
;B[hh]
;W[ee]
;B[gb]
;W[ig]
;B[ij]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: ouch
]))
(;B[fj]
;W[ei]
;B[fi]
;W[eh]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* pain *mwahahahahaha
]
;B[hd]))
(;W[ge]C[Iink [-\]: *scribe* prepare b4 attack
Shana [1k\]: yay all better
Iink [-\]: will try it too
wildseven [-\]: yes\\
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yes yes yes
firstaid [1k\]: yep, this is nice and enlightening
]
;B[fe]
(;W[ff]
;B[ee]
;W[gf]
;B[gb]
;W[hb]
;B[gc]
(;W[ej]
(;B[ei]
;W[fj]
;B[fi]
;W[gj]
;B[gi]
;W[hj]
;B[hi]
;W[ij]
;B[jh]
(;W[fm])
(;W[fn]))
(;B[fj]
;W[ei]
;B[fi]
;W[eh]
;B[gl]))
(;W[fj]
(;B[ej]
;W[fn]
;B[gk]
;W[hn]
;B[ik]
;W[cq])
(;B[fi]
;W[gj])))
(;W[gf]C[wildseven [-\]: maximum pain = getting hit in the nuts with lightning
]
;B[ff]
;W[fg]
;B[gg]
;W[fh]
;B[gd]
;W[hd]
;B[hg]
;W[he]C[Shana [1k\]: huh
]
;B[gb]
;W[hb]
;B[gc]
;W[fj]
;B[ej]
;W[fn]TR[co][dp][gp]C[Shana [1k\]: dangit i think im laggy or something
Shana [1k\]: yuki sounds like a girl!
Shana [1k\]: i mean yith
Shana [1k\]: xD
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: he doesn't at all
Shana [1k\]: brb
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: *smacks shana*
])))
(;AW[mb][jc][mc][kd][ld][jf][ph][mi][pi][cj][dm][dn][fn][hn][rn][fo][go][po][cp][dq][gq][kq][mq][pq]AB[dc][hc][nc][md][nd][od][qd][de][he][le][mf][ch][qi][qj][ok][qm][en][gn][io][ko][ep][gp][hp][eq][iq]C[Shuusaku vs Ota Yuzo]
;W[]LB[kg:A][lh:B][oi:C]C[firstaid [1k\]: l13 ?
Shana [1k\]: m12 
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: E5
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: oh lol
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: XD
Shana [1k\]: lol
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: he wouldn't
inochi33 [8k\]: p11
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: just woke up jon!
wildseven [-\]: -_-
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: hehe
Shana [1k\]: never said u were angry xD
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: :)
wildseven [-\]: lol
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: O11
]
;B[lh]TR[mb][jc][mc][kd][ld]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: if you want to cut
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: yes
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: very nice
yithril [2d\]: white is in flux atthe top
yithril [2d\]: we must keep the two seperated
firstaid [1k\]: weird
wildseven [-\]: you hungry ?
Shana [1k\]: good job chem *thumbs up*
firstaid [1k\]: ok
Iink [-\]: somebudy was calling me
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: was she cut?
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: cute?
]
;W[mh]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: *pokes link*
Princy [1d\]: ?_?
firstaid [1k\]: i thought we attack the weaker ?
Iink [-\]: oh
Iink [-\]: sry
]
;B[kf]
;W[qh]
;B[qn]C[Shana [1k\]: lol
]
;W[qo]C[Iink [-\]: >.>
]
;B[rm]
;W[cc]
;B[cd]
;W[hb]
;B[gb]
;W[ib]
;B[fc]
;W[dr]
;B[fp]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[bh]
;B[bg]
;W[eo]
;B[er]
;W[jr]
;B[ds]
;W[br]
;B[ir]
;W[ro]
;
;B[mk]
;W[pe]
;B[qe]
;W[qf]C[ChemBoy613 [7k\]: B's shape is beautifl will L14
]
;B[of]
;W[dh]
;B[ci]
;W[di]
;B[bi]
;W[bj]
;B[nb]TR[ei][fi][gi][hi][fj][hj][gk][hk][hl][hm]
;W[li]
;B[kk]TR[kk]C[volatile [10k\]: *scribe* black is walking into white's potential territory
ChemBoy613 [7k\]: mmm i like the view
]
;W[kh]C[volatile [10k\]: *scribe* black keeps up the pressure and white has to live in gote
]
;B[jg]
;W[kb]
;B[lc]
;W[lb]
;B[pf]
;W[rg]C[firstaid [1k\]: I see that now :)
]
;B[rf]
;W[ri]
;B[rj])))
